--- Log opened Sun Aug 08 00:00:17 2010 00:08 < uniqanomaly_> http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0601-JUNE_GENES_rev_ 00:08 < uniqanomaly_> little old 00:12 < fenn> hah "Moore didn't have any right to sue Goldie for stealing his cells because the cells didn't belong to Moore in the first place." 00:12 < fenn> human beings aren't property! lol 00:13 < uniqanomaly_> ahahahah 00:13 < uniqanomaly_> yeah, you don't own yourself 00:13 < uniqanomaly_> :P 00:13 < fenn> Moore's cells couldn't belong to him because if they did belong to him, then Goldie couldn't have a patent on them. 00:13 < fenn> and thus a new era of legal precedent was born 00:15 < uniqanomaly_> before reading this article i thought that software patents are stupid 00:15 < uniqanomaly_> i mean they are, but this is seriously fucked up shit my friends 00:24 < fenn> anyone use Getting Things Done? 00:25 < uniqanomaly_> fenn: rather that one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2uFH0NCMY4 00:26 < fenn> cool, a @lazy decorator only evaluates when needed: http://blitiri.com.ar/p/python/ 00:27 < fenn> The term dataflow (which is often used for a number of different things) here is used to denote an object which can be used before its value has been computed, with the computing happening asynchronously. When you try to use the object, if its computation has not concluded, you're put to wait until it is. 00:28 < fenn> uniqanomaly_: that guy sorta sounds like joseph jackson 00:32 < uniqanomaly_> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1760 00:39 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:39 < JayDugger> Good morning everyone. 01:22 < fenn> "truthiness" voted 2005 word of the year 01:22 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:33 < fenn> huh, they voted "massively parallel" as most unnecessary word of 1991 01:33 < JayDugger> "They" who? 01:34 < fenn> the american dialect society (which informs time magazine) 01:35 < fenn> http://www.americandialect.org/index.php/amerdial/categories/C178/ 01:38 < fenn> http://www.craphound.com/lifehacksetcon04.txt <- habits of prolific "alpha geeks" 01:38 < uniqanomaly_> they are all of those people and just are them LOL just trolling 01:39 < fenn> uh, you just failed the turing test, my friend 01:41 < uniqanomaly_> well, sorry 01:42 < uniqanomaly_> my happy hour haven't end yet since yesterday, and I have 10am in my timezone 01:42 < uniqanomaly_> madness 01:42 < fenn> indeed 02:04 < JayDugger> Alpha geek habits omits any mention of version control. 02:10 < fenn> When queried 02:10 < fenn> "Aren't you playing God?" 02:10 < fenn> Venter responds 02:10 < fenn> "We're not playing." 02:17 < fenn> "All geeks back up. They've all learned the lesson. They do it 02:17 < fenn> instead of backing up. Synching is the new backup. Spread stuff 02:17 < fenn> as widely as possible -- that way the nuke won't get it all." 02:18 < fenn> distributed version control wasn't a big thing yet in 2004 02:18 < fenn> er, prepend that with "Everyone has synch scripts to keep multiple machines in synch." 02:28 < fenn> "consequently, i'm moving 'lolita' up on my reading list" http://www.flickr.com/photos/oddwick/2219646342/sizes/l/ 02:28 < fenn> x-axis is SAT score 02:30 < JayDugger> This chart shows J. K. Rowling above Toni Morrison. 02:30 < JayDugger> And Bronte, Bradbury, Shakespeare, and only even with lesser Huxley. 02:30 < fenn> i absolutely hated 'the beloved' 02:31 < JayDugger> Not a fan of Morrison, but she can write, unlike Rowling. 02:31 < JayDugger> Not quite fair--Rowling can only write for children. 02:31 < fenn> bradbury was pretty bad too, it was like the leftovers after i had read all the good sf on my parents' bookshelf 02:32 < JayDugger> Bradbury's pretty overrated, but not like Card or Rowling. 02:32 < fenn> i've never read any rowling so i can't say 02:32 < JayDugger> Don't. 02:32 < fenn> but ender's game was pretty good 02:32 < fenn> bronte was awful and shakespeare is not understandable 02:32 < JayDugger> One good novella proves him only a lucky hack. 02:33 < JayDugger> Most people get ruined by Hamlet and Romeo & Juliet. 02:33 < fenn> i havent read anything else by card but that doesn't mean they're not any good 02:34 < JayDugger> I've read most of what he wrote before 2000. It mostly stinks. 02:34 < fenn> noted 02:34 < JayDugger> Ender's Game, the first three Seventh Son books don't stink. 02:34 < JayDugger> He keeps rewriting the same stories, over and over, about tormented genius brats. 02:35 < JayDugger> The 7th Son books, however, are probably the Great Mormon Novel. 02:35 < fenn> what does that mean? 02:36 < JayDugger> Huck Finn, as a novel, captures much of the American experience by encapsulating a lot of the stereotypes of American fiction. 02:36 < JayDugger> Does that make sense? 02:37 < JayDugger> Continuing the analogy, Card's 7th Son books do the same for people who grew up Mormon. 02:37 < JayDugger> Or recovered ones, such as myself. :) 02:37 < fenn> i almost want to become a raelian out of spite http://www.flickr.com/photos/oddwick/2211327712/ 02:39 < JayDugger> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/4870780948/in/contacts/ 02:39 < JayDugger> I wonder if that differs much from his blog, The Technium. 02:41 < fenn> i think the technium is the sequel to that book, kk is just posting all the content online as he write it (or something) 02:42 < fenn> er, uh, oh. that's the new book. 02:44 < fenn> i love jurvetson's flickr blog 02:44 < JayDugger> Yeah, he posts a lot of really good pictures. 02:44 < fenn> since i've started paying attention i've randomly come across like 20 different photos of his in various places on the net 02:45 < fenn> hah i couldnt agree more "The flush toilet is an unfeasible approach." 02:47 < JayDugger> I'd take that more seriously from someone else. I read that and thought, "this from man who brought the race Windows 3.1." 02:47 < JayDugger> He has a point. Indoor plumbing gets less credit than it deserves. 02:53 < fenn> "Every 2 days, we create 5 exabytes of new data, which is more data than from the beginning of time through 2003" 03:01 < fenn> "Younger people are privacy-damaged. At a young age they are told that spy satellites watching them. That everything is watched. Especially the satellites. It's utterly untouchable. They grow up being unaccustomed to say 'this is mine.' The momentum is with those who don't care about privacy." 03:02 < fenn> interesting that gelerntner lumps property in with privacy so non-chalantly 03:03 < fenn> [The elephant in the room, as we reflect on his comments on privacy, was his his personal experience with the Unabomber. The glove over his damaged hand served as a reminder.] 03:03 < fenn> there we go conflating privacy and security again 03:03 < fenn> it's not like prominent academics are going to start publishing anonymously 03:04 < fenn> because they are afraid of hypothetical nutjobs sending bombs in the mail 03:04 < fenn> "In Afghanistan, we are spending $2B/week on war vs 2M/week on education. If we move .5% from column A to B, then every child can have a laptop. 03:07 < Utopiah> (nice network viz http://complexnetworks.fr/plots.php including videos http://complexnetworks.fr/videos.php ) 03:09 < fenn> "Anything that can be stated with no internal contradictions can be accomplished." 03:10 < fenn> Utopiah: "quantifying paedophiles"?? how do we even know if the person is a pedophile? 03:11 < fenn> ug, slow 03:11 < Utopiah> fenn: they give details, probably using http://antipaedo.lip6.fr of a nearby lab 03:19 < fenn> i don't get it.. they are particularly concerned that teenagers will have access to pedo porn 03:19 < fenn> "The presence of harmful contents in these systems, in particular paedophile ones, therefore constitute a worrying danger for a significant proportion of European children " 03:19 < uniqanomaly_> and locking them up for posession of nude photos of themselves 03:20 < uniqanomaly_> on their own cell phones 03:20 < uniqanomaly_> ;D 03:21 < uniqanomaly_> http://www.news-press.com/article/20100806/CRIME/100806012/Another-teen-faces-cruelty-charges-after-pornographic-images-found-on-phone 03:21 < uniqanomaly_> this is just total ownage 03:21 < fenn> madness 03:21 < uniqanomaly_> check out news 03:21 < uniqanomaly_> 'A 17-year-old Cape Coral girl has been charged with child cruelty and possession of obscene material for depicting the sexual performance of a child after authorities found pornographic images of herself on her phone, computer and her MySpace page.' 03:21 < uniqanomaly_> :D 03:22 < fenn> "Teenage boy arrested and charged with sexual battery on a minor when caught masturbating in the shower." 03:24 < uniqanomaly_> after all it's good thing they lock her up 03:25 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 03:25 < uniqanomaly_> no more child porn from her 03:26 < uniqanomaly_> JayDugger: Hello Sir 03:27 < uniqanomaly_> :D 04:35 < fenn> neato, landmine-detecting plants http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/1537623/in/photostream/ 04:38 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:38 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:38 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:55 < fenn> "Neal Stephenson proposes one meta rule: in a climate of moral relativism the only sin is hypocrisy." 05:45 -!- masked [masked@hpavc/masked] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:07 < fenn> "Panspermia is how life is spread throughout the universe and we are contributing to it from earth by launching billions of microbes into space." (Craig Venter on EDGE) 06:10 < JayDugger> And he can prove this? :) 06:15 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:19 < fenn> if you are interested, check out wickramasinghe and hoyt's papers on spectrometry of interstellar dust clouds 06:23 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:24 < JayDugger> No, thanks though. Just poking fun at Dr. Venter's hyperbole. 06:59 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:10 -!- SeH_ [~SeH_2@c-71-61-176-250.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:22 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:24 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-71-232-51-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-71-232-51-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:05 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:08 < superkuh> fenn: re: neurostarTMS.com , http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/eletters/67/5/507#13743 08:21 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:22 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:43 < kanzure> 04:51 there's over 33,000 atoms in a cell? i didn't know this. 08:53 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:56 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:09 < kanzure> fenn: "At a young age they are told that spy satellites watching them. That everything is watched." religious folks live with that every day.. nothing new (for them) 09:33 < kanzure> JayDugger: are you still 71.170.165.79? 09:43 < kanzure> Simulation based tool wear prediction in milling http://www.opencascade.org/org/community/projects/?project_id=233 09:43 < kanzure> "parametrized with data concerning the workpiece material, cutting material and further influencing factors that remain constant during a milling process. Different variable process parameters, as the feed rate, the engagement situation, the cutting speed as well as the cut volume strongly interact and their impact on the process and the tool at different wear states has to be incorporated" 09:43 < kanzure> hrm but no links on the page 09:49 < kanzure> http://worldairplane.blogspot.com/2007/08/hello-world.html 09:49 < kanzure> "Welcome to the new home of a new kind of project, a global 09:49 < kanzure> mass-collaboration to design a new aircraft. Think of it as 09:49 < kanzure> a sort of Linux with wings." 09:49 < kanzure> isn't it common to clip a penguin's wings? 09:57 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:13 -!- drazak_ [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:13 -!- drazak_ [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:17 < cluckj> ... 10:18 < cluckj> yeah you have to clip them or they'll fly away 10:19 < kanzure> :P 10:20 < kanzure> QuantumG: i want to contact someone at boeing, do you know anyone who can help me find drinkard@bcstec.ca.boeing.com ? 10:31 < kanzure> what's the arcology mailing list from? i forget. it's something relevant to marcin's work right? 10:31 < kanzure> "Arcology is Paolo Soleri's concept of cities which embody the fusion of architecture with ecology. " 10:38 < phryk> Is there a word for the feeling of being about to throw up? 10:38 < kanzure> predisgustia 10:39 < phryk> Mh... not quite what I was searching for, but thanks anyway 10:40 < phryk> I think I found what I sought: "Nausea" 11:18 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:20 < kanzure> well i found him but now i'm not sure how to context dump 12:29 < kanzure> he was running an open source aircraft project and tried to get the opencascade community involved, and works at boeing (or at least did at one point) 12:30 < kanzure> so i guess the relevant context intersection is my bits on opencascade, skdb, open source hardware, cad software, open manufacturing, and something else? 12:57 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:11 < kanzure> "Speaking of graphene, I have a possible application for large-ish scale manufacturing." 13:11 < kanzure> "Bio-fuels like bio-diesel, which is dangerously close to bio-JetA, tend to slush at only moderately low temperatures, making them a poor choice, generally speaking, for jet engine fuel at anything like a reasonable altitude." 13:11 < kanzure> "The fuel needs to be heated, I think, and there is a fair amount of waste heat associated with any Brayton cycle engine. Aluminum is a very good conductor of heat, but copper is half again better, and graphene is about an order of magnitude better than either." 13:11 < kanzure> "I'm wondering if it would be cost-effective to coat the lower wing skin with graphene to conduct heat away from the engine and away to the lower wing skin." 13:12 < kanzure> "Obviously, we don't need to do anything to the upper wing skin as the fuel temperature is going to be dominated by the forced convective heat transfer through the boundary layer on the lower skin. Much of the upper skin will have an air gap (ullage). Thought I'd toss that thought out there. :-)" 13:21 < genehacker> where's that from 13:21 < genehacker> usually you don't want to cool the jet engine 13:21 < genehacker> that's energy you're throwing away! 13:22 < kanzure> exactly 13:24 < genehacker> it'd be much better if airplanes and cars used fuel cells 13:24 < kanzure> he's saying that the engine generates heat and you can use it to heat the fuel instead of letting the energy just dissipate 13:24 < genehacker> they're magnitudes more efficient than heat engines 13:40 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:04 < kanzure> "I was going to go into work and add more to my skin repair over a bulkhead, but this might be more fun." 14:04 < kanzure> what does that mean? 14:28 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:40 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:06 < QuantumG> kanzure: no sorry 15:27 < kanzure> hm there's only one or two people from boeing on the arocket list. that's odd. 15:33 < QuantumG> getting boeing people to talk is like pulling teeth.. I think they have strict policies 15:50 < kanzure> ah no it's just a person who happens to work there 15:57 < QuantumG> yes, that's what I mean 16:03 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:03 < genehacker> that means he was going to repair a bulkhead 16:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:15 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly__] 16:18 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-172-39.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:30 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:34 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-236-219.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:39 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-236-219.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:40 -!- mheld_ [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:41 -!- mheld_ is now known as mheld 17:05 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-91-150.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- memenode [~memenode@unit.memenode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:19 -!- memenode [~memenode@unit.memenode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:39 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-91-150.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:45 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279558689.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: +(?_?)+OUTTA HERE+(?o?)+] 17:52 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:06 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-91-150.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-91-150.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:13 < kanzure> lol at kevin kelly apologizing to me (for anything at all) 19:14 < kanzure> [x] apology from kevin kelly (bucket list going well?) 19:19 < kanzure> step-nc: the end of g-codes? http://www.mmsonline.com/articles/step-ncthe-end-of-g-codes 19:24 < drazak> kanzure: what do you think of daniel c. nocera? 19:32 < fenn> step-nc is always 20 years off, along with fusion and mind uploading 19:36 < JayDugger> phryk: what do you have against the word "nausea?" 19:36 < JayDugger> How does world airplane propose to pay for certification by the regulatory authorities? 19:36 < JayDugger> SMR's have a tough row to hoe, and they aren't open source. 19:37 < kanzure> JayDugger: you know aerospace industry stuff, right? 19:37 < JayDugger> There's an article referring to extremely good heat conductors (novel composites) in last week's Aviation Week. That might help him find collaborators. 19:38 < kanzure> drazak: i don't know the name 19:38 < drazak> kanzure: personalized energy, MIT 19:38 < JayDugger> I'll add that to my envelope for Pixiliy, and link dump once they scan it. 19:38 < kanzure> no i don't think you understand.. when i say i don't know someone, i really /don't/ know someone :P 19:39 < JayDugger> Sorry, they changed names to OfficeDrop from Pixily. 19:40 < kanzure> fenn: so the latest in "grandma bishop" chronicles 19:40 < kanzure> is this super new site that can CALCULATE ANYTHING 19:40 < kanzure> .. called wolfram alpha 19:40 < kanzure> so my grandmother has now hopped on the wolfram alpha gravy train 19:43 < JayDugger> Pretty hip grandmother you've got. 19:43 < QuantumG> explains *everything* 19:44 < QuantumG> mystery kanzure, solved. 19:44 < QuantumG> I should use wolfram alpha more 19:48 < JayDugger> How does your grandmother use Wolfram Alpha? 19:50 < JayDugger> How would you use Wolfram Alpha, QuantumG? 19:50 < QuantumG> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=speed+of+light+%2F+acceleration+due+to+gravity 19:50 < QuantumG> is how I just used it 19:51 < kanzure> i think my grandmother is hip because of me, not the other way around 19:52 < kanzure> tautology yo 19:53 < kanzure> oh god she's a hipster 19:53 < JayDugger> No argument there--duly noted. 19:54 < QuantumG> wolfram alpha really is too slow though 19:54 < cluckj> does she wear tight pants and drink pbr? 19:54 < JayDugger> You know what the customer service answer will be? 19:54 < JayDugger> Would you like to buy a copy of Mathematica? 19:55 < kanzure> what's pbr? 19:55 < cluckj> pabst blue ribbon 19:55 < QuantumG> oh, and the "interpreting as.." is completely not helpful in telling you how you should have written your query 19:56 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone. Time to commute. 19:56 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:56 < cluckj> hipster booze... 19:59 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:10 < kanzure> i should send her to singularity summit 20:10 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:16 < bkero> kanzure: you fly back to TX yet? 20:20 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:23 < kanzure> bkero: yeah 20:24 < kanzure> i don't know if anyone cares but i have some discount codes for singularity summit 20:26 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-76-119-90-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 20:26 < QuantumG> where is it? 20:26 < kanzure> bay area 20:26 < cluckj> maybe 20:26 < QuantumG> ahh 20:26 < kanzure> there's also one in melbourne later this year 20:26 < QuantumG> yeah? 20:27 < kanzure> but i don't have discounted tickets for that one ;) 20:27 < QuantumG> is there much space stuff at these summits? 20:27 < kanzure> no 20:29 < QuantumG> well, I think I'll go to the melbourne one 20:30 < QuantumG> frequent flyers should cover the plane tickets, so just 3 nights accom and entry... which I can't find any numbers for 20:30 < QuantumG> "register your interest" really? it's a month away 20:31 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:31 < kanzure> QuantumG: i could probably find you a place to crash at if you'd like 20:32 < kanzure> for some reason melbourne is a random part of the world that i have contacts for 20:32 < kanzure> but if i end up in, say, kenya, i got nada 20:32 < QuantumG> heh, I have a friend or two in melbourne but I'd rather stay in a hotel 20:32 < kanzure> got it 20:32 < QuantumG> what's the ticket prices like there? 20:33 < kanzure> singularity summit up in the bay area is like 565 full priced 20:34 < QuantumG> heh, the registration of interest has a "Estimate of what you can afford" box 20:34 < QuantumG> so I think the price is "how much you got?" 20:41 < kanzure> i wouldn't be surprised 21:05 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:19 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-9.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:49 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-156.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:09 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:14 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:44 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-14-73.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:45 -!- streety [~Jonathan@host109-153-14-73.range109-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:55 < fenn> kanzure: if i'm to be attending singularity summit, asking sooner is better than later 22:56 < fenn> i don't know who you were talking to 23:05 -!- Joeconyers [~Joe@ool-182fafef.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Mon Aug 09 00:00:17 2010