--- Log opened Sun Aug 29 00:00:17 2010 00:18 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-77.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:20 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:50 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:37 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:57 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:33 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:34 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:04 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:11 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:16 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:29 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:34 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:40 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:43 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:50 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:54 -!- any50174658 [~someone@75-120-14-250.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:55 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:58 -!- katsmeow-afk [~someone@69-179-118-204.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:06 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:11 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:13 < ybit2> hrm.. 05:14 < ybit2> just used pisg on my quassel dump 05:16 < ybit2> hrm, i just extracted the logs from quassel's sqlite store... the logs are certainly not complete, but i managed to run the #hplusroadmap through pisg, and here's the result: http://filebin.ca/vaqzg/pics-stats.html 05:17 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:17 < Utopiah> ybit2: for IRC log analysis there is also http://www.jibble.org/piespy/ 05:21 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:27 -!- Daeken_ [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@business-213-023-057-067.static.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:32 -!- Daeken_ [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:45 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:55 -!- Daeken_ [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- Daeken_ [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:00 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-84-234.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:01 -!- Daeken [~daeken@pa-67-234-57-217.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:28 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:37 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-205-227.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 07:04 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-84-234.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:26 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:29 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:55 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:51 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: got root?] 09:33 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:34 < kanzure> "Makoto Akashi of Yamaguchi University in Japan and his colleagues sought an easier way to check clock gene activity. They turned to hairs plucked from scalps or beards, which contain cell-rich follicles." 09:34 < kanzure> "When they extracted RNA from these cells, they found that circadian gene activities peaked when volunteers were awake and alert, and it peaked earliest in the volunteer who woke up earliest in the morning. " 09:36 < splicer> their hair was awake 09:43 < kanzure> biocurious is up to 50% on kickstarter and has 25 days to go 10:26 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:54 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:00 < any50174658> they woke because someone was yanking their hair 11:08 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@business-213-023-057-067.static.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:10 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:14 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@business-213-023-057-067.static.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:40 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 -!- any50174658 is now known as katsmeow-afk 12:27 < kanzure> http://imminst2010.com/ 12:43 -!- Juul [~Juul@2001:470:dc98:2:212:f0ff:fea2:8] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:59 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/virus-built-wearable-batteries-power-military/print?id=11496924 13:29 < kanzure> http://solidworks.codeplex.com/ 13:30 < klafka> so 13:30 < klafka> umm neat 13:30 < kanzure> be warned that the download is a tar bomb 13:30 < klafka> katsmeow-afk's link is thecoolest 13:31 < klafka> although the least "real" 13:35 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/stent-calculator/ for medical stents 13:42 -!- [ACEG]egeste is now known as egeste 13:50 -!- [X-Pro]Endos [~X-ProEnd@c-98-193-82-225.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:57 < kanzure> does anyone have some hints on downloading this svn repository? 13:57 < kanzure> http://132.209.24.179/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=Recherche+V.+Francois+et+J-C.+Cuilli%C3%A8re&path=%2Fmagic%2Flib%2Fgeometrie%2Fsrc%2Fstep_import.cpp&rev=0&sc=0 13:57 < kanzure> http://132.209.24.179/websvn/ 14:00 < katsmeow-afk> wget 14:02 < kanzure> methinks you don't understand svn 14:03 < joshcryer> I don't see an svn checkout anywhere there. 14:03 < katsmeow-afk> methinks i never liked it, and gave it up 14:03 < kanzure> the svn daemon probably has anonymous checkout or something 14:03 < kanzure> )which is what i'm asking about, primarily) 14:04 < joshcryer> I can't find it I'm looking. 14:04 < kanzure> websvn is just an http front for it 14:04 < kanzure> so looking at the websvn pages isn't going to be useful 14:05 < joshcryer> No I'm saying I'm sending raw svn commands to try to guess it intuitively. 14:05 < joshcryer> There appears to be an svn server there but I don't know the checkout command. 14:05 < kanzure> me either :) 14:05 < joshcryer> (erm, I don't know the repository it's using I mean, I know how to chekcout) 14:07 < joshcryer> OK there appears to in fact not be an svn server there. 14:08 < joshcryer> wget it is. 14:08 < kanzure> hrmph 14:09 < joshcryer> Strange that an svn checkout command doesn't complain about there being no server but if you attempt to browse the repository it does. 14:10 < joshcryer> Oh got, wget mirror completely rapes the filenames. 14:11 < joshcryer> s/got/god 14:11 < joshcryer> HAVE FUN WITH THAT. :P 14:13 < kanzure> also it downloads the source files as the web pages (since that's what's being displayed) and that's mostly useless anyway 14:15 < joshcryer> Not just that, the source code is littered with HTML delimiters, so you can't even write a quick script to clean 'em. 14:19 < kanzure> http://ams.cern.ch/AMS/CGSE/Documents/SJTU/CD%20From%20SJTU%20%28March%2014,%202008%29/3D%20Lanzhou%20drawings/solidworks2004/program%20files/SolidWorks/photoworks/data/Materials/Metals/Aluminum/ 14:19 < kanzure> what a ridiculous URL 14:19 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:20 < katsmeow-afk> replace(htmlpage,"FILENAME="",realpath) ; replace(htmlpage,"" FORM","\">") , then tell wget to treat that file as a html url source 14:20 < joshcryer> then you have to go and write a source code parser 14:21 < joshcryer> that rips the code from the
tags 14:21 < joshcryer> and then 14:21 < joshcryer> converts things like quot; to " 14:22 < kanzure> some fairly random crap: 14:22 < kanzure> http://ams.cern.ch/AMS/CGSE/Documents/SJTU/CD%20From%20SJTU%20%28March%2014,%202008%29/ 14:24 < kanzure> http://ams.cern.ch/AMS/CGSE/Data_Share/ 14:25 < kanzure> nothing like downloading a bootlegged copy of solidworks from CERN.. 14:26 < katsmeow-afk> ? 14:32 < bkero> kanzure: that's fantastic 14:32 < katsmeow-afk> 2004 ? 14:36 < kanzure> Accumulated knowledge about manufacturing-process interoperability 14:36 < kanzure> http://www.mel.nist.gov/sc5/wg1/knowledge.htm 14:39 < kanzure> "GEANT, on the other hand, has to describe a large number of solids, say 10 million or more, corresponding to realistic modern detectors. The purpose of the GEANT modeller is, therefore, to be able to effectively represent a large number of solids corresponding to a complex detector in order to perform fast and efficient particle tracking. The representation has not to be everywhere exact, while the number of solids to be represented is critical. Co 14:39 < kanzure> http://cadd.web.cern.ch/cadd/cadd_geant_int.html 14:39 < kanzure> hey this is some cool shit 14:40 < kanzure> http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/ 14:40 < kanzure> http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/gallery/index.html 14:42 < kanzure> " The approach used in GEREP is to include geometric representations of CAD systems in GEANT. GEREP is an application for the proposed future object-oriented GEANT 4 toolkit. It is able to perform particle tracking in detector models described using B-Rep of STEP." 14:44 < joshcryer> I wonder, are there any visual-layer chemistry toolkits? 14:44 < kanzure> what do you need 14:44 < joshcryer> Something that can tell me what chemical reaction happens with various combination of chemicals. 14:44 < joshcryer> Visual would be nice but maybe not totally necessary. 14:45 < kanzure> look up ab initio chemistry 14:45 < kanzure> there's two general ways- theoretical chemistry, simulations, or what-have-you 14:45 < kanzure> and then there's stuff like the bernstein reaction database, or the crossfire database 14:45 < kanzure> (i.e. based on historical/experimental data) 14:46 < joshcryer> <3 thanks. 14:52 < kanzure> old school changelog thingy? 14:52 < kanzure> http://ams.cern.ch/AMS/Electronics/Mech/AMS%2002%20Electronics%20Mechanics.htm 14:55 < kanzure> so uh 14:55 < kanzure> http://www.ams02.org/ 14:55 < kanzure> does this means i have the cad files for that now? 14:55 < kanzure> http://www.ams02.org/what-is-ams/tecnology/ 14:57 < katsmeow-afk> so we cannot actually download the crossfire chemistry database 15:04 < kanzure> katsmeow-afk: no :( 15:09 < joshcryer> Get soemone who goes to UC Davis to get it for you. 15:09 * bkero knows some people at Davis. 15:12 < joshcryer> Getting mixed signals. 15:12 < joshcryer> Apparently you can't use VPN to access the databases. 15:12 < joshcryer> But, I just found a link that sends you to a library workstation, which from my POV is the same as VPN. 15:12 < joshcryer> w/e 15:44 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:58 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-66-66-5-254.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:10 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:24 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@business-213-023-057-067.static.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 -!- Juul [~Juul@2001:470:dc98:2:212:f0ff:fea2:8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:28 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:29 < kanzure> xml merge http://projectmerge.com/ 17:31 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:42 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-110-194.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:51 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-251.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- augur [~augur@208-58-6-161.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:53 < kanzure> uh oh.. the people who have hijacked luf-team want to start patenting shit 17:53 -!- genehacker_ [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-251.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:55 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-251.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55 -!- genehacker_ is now known as genehacker 18:00 < QuantumG> youtube pisses me 18:01 < QuantumG> I'm pretty sure the 10 minute limit thing is there because they can't reliably stream more than 10 minutes 18:02 < uniqanomaly> policy is not made for users but company 18:03 < uniqanomaly> they launched youtube.com/lately so I guess they pretty much can 18:03 < QuantumG> uh huh.. as if youtube has a business model 18:03 < uniqanomaly> just don't want to 18:03 < uniqanomaly> yes it does 18:03 < uniqanomaly> google wouldn't acquire it for $1.6bn 18:04 < QuantumG> do tell, I'll pass it on to my friends at Google and they'll be very happy to hear it. 18:04 < uniqanomaly> :D 18:04 < kanzure> their business model is to destroy cable television 18:04 < uniqanomaly> and netflix and alike 18:05 < uniqanomaly> damn 18:05 < uniqanomaly> youtube.com/movies few lines abv ... 18:30 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-251.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:16 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:18 < kanzure> GMA 125 storage tube 19:18 < kanzure> any ideas what this is? 19:21 < kanzure> "CERN, which at present has the largest single EUCLID installation, is based on two VAX 11/785's connected in a VAX cluster, each with 8 megabytes of memory. 20 monochrome workstations and 4 Tektronix 4016 graphic terminals grouped in remote clusters provide interactive access to the system. 8 Hewlett Packard pen and 4 Versatec electrostatic plotters provide the means of drawing output. In the near future one of the 785's will be replaced by the new 19:23 < kanzure> i feel sad that CERN is based on OpenCASCADE 19:23 < kanzure> well, at least the LEP at CERN 19:25 < kanzure> "LEP, which contains more than 1,000 component types, with approximately 50,000 occurences of these components, is of such complexity that it is onyl feasible to define its structure by using computers. The dynamic nature of LEP also means that whenever an update is made, a complete new set of 24 layout drawings must be produced. This task can take up to 50 man hours, even with CAD." 19:25 < kanzure> what? 19:26 < kanzure> "During the day, Euclid is very heavily loaded with 'normal' interactive work, and the task of creating layout drawings would bring the system to a complete halt. Such a situation is to be avoided, not only because of its economic insanity, but also as it has a very negative effect on users. Therefore, a specially developed batch program now allows this task to be performed overnight. It also eliminates all user errors that are inevitable in such a 19:26 < kanzure> mammoth operation." 19:28 < kanzure> "The program must also create two copies of the object, one in meters for the civil engineers and one in millimeters for the mechanical engineers." 19:31 < kanzure> "To significantly increase this maximum (of number of points) would require a total internal re-organization of Euclid. Such an increase will however be counter productive as the visualization response time is proportional to the square of the "complexity" of the object." 19:36 < kanzure> wow they only stopped using euclid in 2008? 19:36 < kanzure> http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1103200 19:39 < kanzure> http://aliceinfo.cern.ch/alicvs/viewvc/Euclid/ 19:39 < kanzure> http://aliceinfo.cern.ch/alicvs/viewvc/Euclid/?hideattic=0 19:40 -!- blort [~blort@pdpc/supporter/active/blort] has quit [Quit: blort] 19:41 < kanzure> aroo? 19:41 < kanzure> http://aliceinfo.cern.ch/alicvs/viewvc/LHC/AliLhcBeam.h?hideattic=0&view=markup 19:41 < kanzure> "Class that holds all parameters about an LHC beam." 19:41 < kanzure> heheh 19:41 < joshcryer>