--- Log opened Thu Sep 23 00:00:17 2010 00:14 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:26 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:31 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:55 -!- splicer [~splicer@92.39.2.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:29 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:34 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:48 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:59 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:02 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:59 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-26-48.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:34 < fenn> kanzure are you going to openhardwaresummit? 06:01 -!- shepazu [~schepers@208.52.153.223] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 06:09 -!- LiudvikasT [~Liudvikas@88.118.33.32] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:21 -!- LiudvikasT [~Liudvikas@88.118.33.32] has quit [Quit: We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and existence. Before us, you are nothing. Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything.] 06:29 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:42 < ybit> anyone know of a free service where i can briefly load ~700gb of data and retrieve about a day later? 06:42 < ybit> i'm having way too many issues with the filesystem on the server and i need to offload the data and reformat 06:44 < fenn> i suggest buying a 1TB hard drive 06:45 < fenn> http://www.amazon.com/Barracuda-7200-12-internal-SATA-300-Refurbished/dp/B0024FAN24 06:48 < kanzure> fenn: i've been on the fence about going to open hardware summit :( 06:48 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:48 < kanzure> i mean, i don't really want to support the buglabs/medialab/adafruit/make clique 06:49 < kanzure> however, i should probably be there :/ 06:51 < archels> haha, that's like music to my ears, kanzure. 06:51 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:51 < ybit> grr, did anyone say anything? :( 06:52 < ybit> comcast, you suck 06:52 < archels> < fenn> i suggest buying a 1TB hard drive 06:52 < ybit> ah 06:57 < kanzure> ybit: also, check the logs 06:59 < ybit> 10% packet loss to google :\ 07:00 < ybit> hrm... 07:11 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-146-189.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:26 < JayDugger> Good morning everyone. 07:41 < dustbin> morning 07:54 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- shepazu [~schepers@208.52.152.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:15 -!- shepazu [~schepers@208.52.152.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15 -!- shepazu [~schepers@208.52.152.2] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:22 < Utopiah> didn't know http://www.thoughtcast.org 08:38 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:41 -!- shepazu [~schepers@208.52.152.2] has quit [Quit: shepazu] 08:47 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:51 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 08:55 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:58 -!- patrik [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- patrik is now known as Guest2809 09:00 -!- Guest2809 is now known as splicer 09:06 < kanzure> open hardware summit is streaming 09:06 < kanzure> http://ustre.am/oaVr 09:07 < kanzure> twitter hashtag is #openhwsummit and #openhardware 09:07 < kanzure> https://twitter.com/openhwsummit 09:08 < kanzure> schedule: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/schedule/ 09:08 < Utopiah> thanks 09:08 < kanzure> http://lists.openhardwaresummit.org/listinfo.cgi/updates-openhardwaresummit.org 09:10 < kanzure> "Agressive and constant publication is the ultimate weapon a society has agaisnt patents - @wilbanks #openhardware" 09:10 < kanzure> well that's awful advice :P 09:10 < kanzure> patents are a trump card in comparison 09:10 < kanzure> i'm glad they got bruce perens there.. maybe he will knock some sense into them 09:12 < kanzure> "@Adafruit warns against claiming your product is #OpenHardware while also trying to impose restrictions." 09:12 < kanzure> so have they actually come up with a legal tool? i thought that was the point of all their hype :) 09:12 * kanzure checks http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW 09:14 < kanzure> http://freedomdefined.org/Talk:OSHW 09:16 < archels> This is more interesting -> http://oracle.com.edgesuite.net/ivt/4000/8104/9236/13239/presentation_external_flash_480x272/default.htm 09:16 < kanzure> the link has the words "oracle" "flash" and "suite" is there any incentive for me to click 09:17 < archels> Kurzweil @ JavaOne conference 09:17 < archels> T+15min 09:17 < kanzure> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/open-hardware-summit-2010 09:18 < kanzure> hahahah " 09:18 < kanzure> Crowley: What we try to do at Eyebeam is make processes transparent " 09:18 < kanzure> oh man.. this is why i didn't go :) 09:19 < kanzure> i think this is a reasonable way to frame things: "Wilbanks: OSHW.. copyright, patent, trade secret, trademark, or sui generis??" 09:19 < kanzure> " 09:19 < kanzure> and it looks like their tweeter doesn't pay attention: "Wilbanks just dropped "open-source biology" ... another summit in order?" 09:20 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@183.17.33.59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:34 -!- Ian_Dani1er [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:36 < archels> Mmm standard Kurzweil talk, nothing new. 09:37 -!- Ian_Daniher [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39 -!- Ian_Dani1er [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:39 -!- Ian_Daniher [~it@nat-pool-128-107.olin.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:56 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:57 < kanzure> diybio-washington update http://diybiodc.org/2010/09/still-around-working-on-other-things/ 09:58 < kanzure> http://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.htmlhttp://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.html 09:58 < kanzure> blah 09:58 < kanzure> http://www.diybiosea.org/2010/09/gm-salmon-up-for-fda-approval.html 09:58 < kanzure> http://jcom.sissa.it/archive/09/03/Jcom0903(2010)E/Jcom0903(2010)E.pdf mentions biocurious and diybio 10:00 < JayDugger> Good night, eveyone. 10:02 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 10:02 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:03 < uniqanomaly_> i guess they will some day push for fda approval of every food 10:03 < uniqanomaly_> 'cause everything organic have *genes* in it 10:04 < uniqanomaly_> in the name of public safety 10:04 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has quit [Client Quit] 10:04 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:04 < uniqanomaly_> health! 10:05 < uniqanomaly_> they care so much for health yet drugs approval take 10 years 10:05 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has quit [Client Quit] 10:06 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:07 < Utopiah> uniqanomaly_: Im not an expert but maybe side-effects and combinations are not that easy to test? 10:07 -!- Overand [overand@69.182.171.130] has quit [Client Quit] 10:07 -!- Overand [overand@crappy.domain.name] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:08 < kanzure> national fablab act of 2010: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-6003 10:08 < kanzure> full text: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h6003: 10:08 < uniqanomaly_> Utopiah: of course they're not 10:10 < uniqanomaly_> Utopiah: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634# 10:11 < uniqanomaly_> "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" 10:13 < uniqanomaly_> Utopiah: herbs and health suppliments under codex alimentarius are drugs which need to be strictly controlled 10:13 < uniqanomaly_> so much for freedom 10:17 < uniqanomaly_> well not drugs 10:17 < uniqanomaly_> just become strictly regulated ;> 10:17 < uniqanomaly_> who cares 10:35 < kanzure> can you guys take a look at the humanity+ gada prize guidelines before i stamp it / ship i? 10:35 < kanzure> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1lJ-jHXRQObdYHtPwdKFPTqfmknkc2a93ytLHtbjyZto&hl=en&authkey=CJSbrm0 10:36 < kanzure> pdf (old/first version): http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusgada.pdf 10:57 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:58 < uniqanomaly_> http://vitaminlawyerhealthfreedom.blogspot.com/2010/09/s510-companion-bill-s3767-to.html WTF 10:59 < uniqanomaly_> "10 year jail term for anyone who sells what the govt later decides was "adulterated" or "misbranded" food" 10:59 < uniqanomaly_> :D 11:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:16 < phryk> Sha-Bam. 11:16 * phryk can haz be Magneto :3 11:18 < archels> Sorry, being transhuman does not mean you get to break the laws of physics. 11:48 < phryk> Nah 11:48 < phryk> I have a Magnet in my finger, now ;P 11:52 < archels> Yeah? For how long? 11:53 < phryk> Permanently. 11:53 < phryk> Or do you mean since when? 11:53 < phryk> That would be since today ;P 11:53 < dustbin> nice 11:53 < dustbin> where is it in your finger 11:56 < panax> is it rare earth 11:56 < panax> i heard of someone doing that and after a while the body absorbed all the iron out of the magnet and it shattered 12:00 < archels> phryk: Yeah, I meant since when. Like panax said, I heard some bad things about longetivity. 12:00 < phryk> That was longer ago 12:00 < phryk> with the prototypes 12:01 < panax> maybe if you have a protective coating over it it would last longer 12:01 < archels> Ah, alright. I wore a magnetic ring for a few months, but had to take it off because it was irritating my skin. 12:04 < archels> I hope you fare better. :) 12:04 < phryk> there are two coatings 12:04 < phryk> gold and then silicon 12:05 < panax> yeah gold will probably last 12:08 < phryk> silicone, too 12:11 < archels> Gold being the failsafe? :) 12:13 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:16 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:42 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Jappe2 13:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Jappe2 13:28 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-168-65.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:36 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-168-65.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:50 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:04 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 < kanzure> "China mines 93 percent of the world's rare earth minerals, and more than 99 percent of the world's supply of some of the most prized rare earths" 14:08 < kanzure> i bet they really meant to say "93 percent of the world's output of rare earth minerals" 14:08 < kanzure> nobody dares mine for crap in the US any more 14:09 < kanzure> "The House Committee on Science and Technology is scheduled to review a detailed bill to subsidize the revival of the American rare earths industry and the House Armed Services Committee is scheduled to review the American military dependence on Chinese rare earth elements" 14:09 < kanzure> does anyone know what that bill is for "revival of the American rare earths industry"? 14:16 -!- panax [panax@goldstandard.eng.usf.edu] has quit [] 14:27 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:28 < kanzure> hehe http://www.shadyurl.com/ 14:32 < dustbin> ya it's kinda fantastic 14:34 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-94-19.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:41 < kanzure> aha: 14:41 < kanzure> http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h4866/show 14:42 < kanzure> "Rare Earths Supply-Chain Technology and Resources Transformation Act of 2010 or the RESTART Act" 14:42 < kanzure> "Rare Earths and Critical Materials Revitalization Act of 2010." http://science.house.gov/publications/hearings_markups_details.aspx?newsid=2910 14:44 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-53.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:49 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@wireless-128-62-120-53.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:51 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:12 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-87-105-21-220.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:30 < kanzure> why do these exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industry_trade_groups_in_the_United_States 15:31 < kanzure> wikipedia claims "There are over 7,600 national trade associations in the United States, with a large number (approximately 2,000) headquartered in the Washington, DC area." and cites National Trade and Professional Associations (2008), 43rd ed., ISBN 978 1-880873-56-4 for that 15:31 < uniqanomaly> for influencing public policies 15:32 < uniqanomaly> 'influencing' 15:32 < kanzure> does each one have member companies? 15:32 < kanzure> i mean, that's a lot of business.. 15:35 < uniqanomaly> 'influencing public policies' reminded me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_vaccine stuff 15:36 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36 < uniqanomaly> WHO corrupted by pharmaceutical companies 15:37 < uniqanomaly> a.k.a. 'WHO overreacted' 15:37 < superkuh> ... even the most grand reaction to influenza is not an overreaction. 15:37 < uniqanomaly> 229 mln doses of H1N1 vaccines bought by US gov. 15:37 < uniqanomaly> superkuh: that's most funny part 15:38 < uniqanomaly> they have bunch of viruses & vaccines & vaccines monopoly 15:38 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:08 < kanzure> i'm not sure meetlog.txt was designed with this sort of situation in mind 16:08 < kanzure> http://www.aia-aerospace.org/about_aia/board_of_governors/ 16:08 < kanzure> i mean, putting all these people from 7000 organizations into the "knowledge:" section or something is kinda silly 16:50 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:23 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 < fenn> 'humanity+ will assemble no less than one individual to contact...' lol 19:11 < fenn> you could use different tags for different kinds of knowledge, i.e. "stalk" or "random douchebag" 19:13 < fenn> re: shattered magnets, quinn is staying in the langton guest room and seems to be doing just fine :P 19:19 < fenn> roommate "must be willing to meow or is cool with meowing." but they're getting a german shepherd? 19:20 < kanzure> fenn: gadaplus.pdf help/ranting/ideas would be cool 19:21 < kanzure> O_o my uncle-in-law emailed me a clay shirky ted talk. hrm. 19:22 < kanzure> quinn norton? 19:40 < fenn> ya 19:41 < fenn> is the pdf different from the google doc? 19:50 < kanzure> pdf is older 19:50 < kanzure> google doc has adrian bowyer / reprap core team comments 19:50 < kanzure> sorry, i was watching gaston http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhG9hKiplfQ 19:51 < kanzure> 2010-04-13: Quinn Norton : ["eeg", "body hacking", "neurosky"] 19:51 < kanzure> wtf i've only talked with him onnnnnce 19:51 < kanzure> *once 19:59 < jrayhawk> kanzure are you ever resentful of someone saying something flippant on IRC because it means you then have to go fill out their name 20:03 < kanzure> fuck you 20:04 < jrayhawk> especially a stupid largely rhetorical question 20:14 < jrayhawk> Have you scripted irssi or a log parser add people for you automatically? 20:15 < kanzure> ostensibly i did at one point but it's gone / not working / a pile of crap 20:15 < kanzure> and a gmail and pidgin plugin 20:16 < kanzure> i'd like to have a tool where i can just paste a wall of text or a link and have it extract out the names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. 20:16 < kanzure> name recognition shouldn't be too hard.. 20:20 < kanzure> i'd also pay for a service where a part of facebook's social network is revealed to me in some meaningful context 20:20 < kanzure> like a certain target up to a certain degree (like n=4) so that i get their local network details 20:33 < fenn> quinn is demonstrably female, for future reference http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeetthaannn/5011462996/ 20:36 < kanzure> good to know 20:37 -!- nchaimov [nchaimov@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 20:41 < kanzure> fenn: did you see that anissimov's screen name used to be darkvegeta26? 20:48 < fenn> good to know 20:48 < fenn> i will expose his true motives once and for all! 20:51 < kanzure> i thought it was funny :( 20:52 < kanzure> we're not known for being anti-dbz anyway http://acceleratingfuture.com/hplusroadmapwiki/Myostatin_DBZ_project 21:01 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 21:02 < fenn> btw, re: scouters, http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/15/hands-on-with-the-lumus-see-through-wearable-display-real-3d-real-augmented-reality/ 21:02 < fenn> their helmet is so dorktastic, i wonder why they didn't bother to make a scouter demo 21:03 < kanzure> heh i was just reading the scouters thing again :) 21:03 < kanzure> http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Info/Scouters.htm 21:03 < kanzure> 'Scouters - were created by Frieza's scientists. It was made to help determine how strong a person was. It's worn around one eye and can detect power levels from miles away. It gives the power level in the form of a number, and so they compare the number to their own to see where they stand if they were to fight that person.' 21:04 < kanzure> fenn: yeah that's just asking to be a scouter demo 21:35 -!- splicer [~patrik@h126n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@219-89-57-76.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:44 < kanzure> tito is asking about inventory management stuff for biocurious 21:44 < kanzure> i wonder if he will listen 21:58 < kanzure> i guess the better idea is to tell joseph instead :D 22:09 -!- kive [~kive@unaffiliated/kive] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09 -!- kive [~kive@www.kive.me] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:10 < kanzure> hi kive 22:29 < jrayhawk> Oh, I thought that darkvegeta26@aol.com thing was a joke. 22:30 < jrayhawk> http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/works/transhumanisttips.htm "transhumanist tip: do not use the name darkvegeta26" 22:30 < jrayhawk> hard-earned wisdom 22:31 < fenn> hmm, randomly ran across this sleep optimization project just now http://beddata.com/blog/ 22:32 < fenn> how do i know of tom igoe? 22:37 < fenn> ah nice, Extended Environments Markup Language (eeml.org) 22:38 < fenn> seems like just the xml tags would take up a lot of flash in your microcontroller's ram 22:43 < fenn> Because of its focus on ease of interoperability between software platforms the Danish government has made the use of IFC format(s) compulsory for publicly aided building projects. 22:44 < fenn> IfcProcess is the base class for processes and is subdivided into tasks, events, and procedures. Processes may have durations and be scheduled to occur at specific time periods. Processes may be sequenced such that a successor task may start after a predecessor task finishes, following the Critical Path Method. Processes may be nested into sub-processes for summary roll-up. 22:45 < fenn> it also has stuff about geometry, "resources" such as labor and equipment, and even (supposedly) revision control 22:45 < fenn> mostly aimed at architectural cad 22:46 < kanzure> Tom Igoe: [open source hardware, open source hardware definition, arduino, new york university] 22:46 < kanzure> associate professor 22:47 < kanzure> "making things talk" 22:48 < kanzure> danish govt has done a lot of weird things with formats.. like demanding quickfix for financial transactions, and going ahead with the Oo.O templates and ebxml stuff 22:49 < fenn> http://bimserver.org/about/features/ 22:49 < fenn> bimserver is running gpl code 22:52 < fenn> must be pretty new, mailing list starts on august 2010 23:20 < fenn> is it just me or is it linkedin request season? 23:22 < kanzure> i saw bimserver a few days ago through something else.. didn't bother to post the link because it seemed "relevant but not quite relevant" 23:23 < kanzure> why do people use linkedin, anyway 23:45 < QuantumG> because other people do 23:51 -!- ToyKeeper [~ToyKeeper@74-95-113-201-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:53 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@c-67-180-253-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:53 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55 -!- ToyKeeper [~ToyKeeper@74-95-113-201-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #hplusroadmap --- Log closed Fri Sep 24 00:00:17 2010