--- Log opened Tue Sep 28 00:00:18 2010 00:04 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.166.174.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:06 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.166.174.215] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.166.174.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.166.153.129] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:53 -!- Juul [~Juul@h55eb1609.dkkoost.sta.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.166.153.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:24 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 01:33 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- codeshepherd_ [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:49 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49 -!- codeshepherd_ is now known as codeshepherd 01:52 -!- Alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279397903.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: +(?_?)+OUTTA HERE+(?o?)+] 01:59 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.104.134] has quit [Quit: codeshepherd] 02:04 < archels_> kanzure: Any way to /topic that? 02:25 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:36 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:37 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:38 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:25 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:48 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-85-34.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-85-34.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- archels_ [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:21 -!- mheld [~mheld@173-114-241-49.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:40 < kanzure> :D 06:40 < kanzure> http://dx.doi.org/10.1115/1.3484089 06:40 < kanzure> Impacting Designer Creativity Through IT-Enabled Concept Generation 06:40 < kanzure> i am a co-author :) 06:40 * Utopiah clicks 06:41 < Utopiah> is there a software link going with it? 06:42 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:43 < Utopiah> http://www.visualize-it.com ? 06:45 < kanzure> ohanda and open hardware summit http://blog.xivo.fr/index.php?post/2010/08/30/Representing-OHANDA-at-the-OpenHardwareSummit-%28NYC%2C-23/9/10%29 06:45 < kanzure> Utopiah: that link is unrelated 06:46 < JayDugger> Yeah, but I bet your paper lacks cute animated characters. 06:48 < JayDugger> redshift works fairly for me. I like it well enough, but I don't think it much affects my sleep schedule. 06:48 < JayDugger> It seems to ease eyestrain, but less so than lower temperatures and higher humidity. 06:49 < JayDugger> Congratulations on the paper, kanzure. 06:49 < Utopiah> kanzure: yes I guessed so, that's why I asked for the proper link before 06:50 < kanzure> i'm not sure there is a proper link for the VisualizeIT project 06:50 < kanzure> ah, wait, yes there is 06:50 < kanzure> let me dig it up 06:50 < Utopiah> thanks, appreciated 06:51 < kanzure> http://voiced.device.mst.edu/groups/VisualizeIT/blog/ 06:52 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VOICED 06:53 < Utopiah> guess it's internal only, http://voiced.device.mst.edu doesn't work 06:53 < kanzure> mst.edu changed its name iirc 06:53 < kanzure> wait, no, that is the changed version 06:55 < JayDugger> No joy here, either. 06:56 < fenn> omg are they serious.. 2kB/s upload for google's imap server? 07:12 < kanzure> 370,000 ebooks and 3 terabytes of space: 07:12 < kanzure> http://free-books.dontexist.com/ 07:13 < Utopiah> inc. Stanford/Harvard ones? I found that those are the ones I can't get my hands on :/ 07:16 < JayDugger> Heh...crummy download speed. 07:17 < Utopiah> really clean interface 07:17 < JayDugger> 6kb/s and slowing 07:26 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:27 < Utopiah> meh... now I dont need 36hrs/days but 48hrs day... thanks so much for the link kanzure :/ 07:32 < fenn> wow where did that come from 07:35 < fenn> anyone browsed the torrents yet? 07:35 < Utopiah> Brain Machine Interfaces for Space Applications: enhancing astronaut capabilities http://free-books.dontexist.com/book/index.php?md5=79e37b6d017084d45f75393bcd83ed4f 07:39 < superkuh> The way torrents are handled is awkward. It's the same as FTP directories. So you have to find the md5 the desired pdf, deselect everything else, and rename. 07:40 < superkuh> I suppose it makes sense. A million tiny torrents would have no seeds. 07:40 < superkuh> Er, 350 thousand. Not a million. 07:41 < Utopiah> maybe they use it as web seeds 07:45 < fenn> what's wrong with small torrents? 07:47 < kanzure> fenn: "where did that come from" well, via eugen leitl. he says it's from the russkies 07:47 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:47 < kanzure> something in .ec 07:47 < kanzure> (eugen's making a mirror of the torrents) 07:48 < JayDugger> Another dinner I owe him, should he ever make it to this area. 07:49 < kanzure> jrayhawk: can you add that mammoth collection to the torrent queue? 07:51 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:05 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- codeshepherd [~Deepan@122.167.115.216] has quit [Quit: codeshepherd] 08:21 * Utopiah imagines the whole channel going in a sort of nerd trance when a large flow of information arrives suddently 08:22 < JayDugger> Huh? 08:23 < JayDugger> What? 08:23 < JayDugger> Time to breathe again? So soon? 08:54 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:58 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- kristianpaul [~kristianp@unaffiliated/kristianpaul] has left #hplusroadmap [] 08:59 -!- mheld [~mheld@173-114-241-49.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:07 < phryk> Mhh 09:07 < phryk> What do you guys think about raves? 09:07 -!- mheld [~mheld@72-63-26-160.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:18 * fenn surfaces and gasps for air 09:18 < fenn> MOAR!! 09:19 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:20 -!- Juul [~Juul@space.labitat.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:21 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- mheld [~mheld@72-63-26-160.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:43 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:46 -!- mheld [~mheld@72-63-4-192.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:50 -!- wrldpc2 [~benny@205.241.56.114] has quit [Quit: wrldpc2] 09:50 < kanzure> "DIYbio NYC/BioBus Collaboration Wins MAKE Magazine Editors' Choice Award" http://diybionyc.blogspot.com/2010/09/diybio-nycbiobus-collaboration-wins.html 09:52 < kanzure> "wired university" and a course called "domestic tech" http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/09/ff_wiredu/8/ 10:03 -!- mheld [~mheld@72-63-4-192.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:04 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:05 < fenn> terrists 10:06 < fenn> is wired university for real? i can't figure it out 10:07 < fenn> it's some kind of new format for writing fluff articles? 10:09 -!- mheld [~mheld@68-246-236-228.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:11 < fenn> alpine has so many different progress indicators... 10:12 < fenn> (all equally useless) 10:13 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-157-46.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-234-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:15 -!- mheld [~mheld@68-246-236-228.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 10:25 -!- genehacker [genehacker@wireless-128-62-157-46.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26 -!- patrik [~patrik@h193n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:26 -!- patrik is now known as Guest95813 10:26 < Utopiah> Eric live http://disrupt.techcrunch.com/2010-sf/ 10:28 -!- Guest95813 is now known as splicer 10:33 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- nsh [sbp@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:08 < kanzure> Utopiah: oh, eric schmidt 11:10 < Utopiah> yes, finished though 11:11 < Utopiah> he never calls me by my family name so... doing the same :-# 11:12 < kanzure> i guess there's not many other erics in the context of techcrunch disrupt 11:46 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:51 < archels> so Blio doesn't render PDF? This is disappointing. 11:55 < fenn> of course not. it's an ereader not a pdf reader, what were you thinking! 11:55 < archels> I thought it was going to be the e-reader to end all e-readers. 11:56 < fenn> why did you think that 11:56 -!- Juul [~Juul@space.labitat.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:56 < fenn> maybe you can hack it to run linux 11:56 < archels> screw Linux, I want my annotations! 11:57 < fenn> use okular 11:58 * fenn stops baiting archels 11:59 < archels> :p 12:19 -!- Juul [~Juul@space.labitat.dk] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:23 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-191-204.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:23 < kanzure> github's git-based wiki http://github.com/github/gollum 12:25 < Utopiah> would be good to add those new wikis to http://www.wikimatrix.org/wiki/feature:RCS 12:26 < Utopiah> (Hatta is Mercurial based but really minimal) 12:27 < kanzure> diyhpl.us is using ikiwiki/piny 12:32 -!- genehacker2 [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-191-204.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-191-204.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:43 -!- genehacker2 [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-191-204.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:44 < kanzure> amy li has been pitching this as an alternative to kickstarter 12:44 < kanzure> http://www.indiegogo.com/Kilifi_Kids_Cell_Phones_for_Health_in_Kenya?i=pita 12:44 < kanzure> or this http://www.ingboo.com/pvm/start 12:44 < kanzure> uh the second one is something else 13:00 -!- Juul [~Juul@space.labitat.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:04 < Utopiah> (Science, Reason and Critical Thinking: The Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/07/periodic-table-of-irrational-nonsense.html by Crispian Jago July 2010) 13:06 < kanzure> does anyone know SeH? i've seen the nickname around but can't figure out where 13:07 < Utopiah> /whois sseehh 13:08 < kanzure> thanks for emulating my keyboard troubles :( 13:08 < Utopiah> I mean SeH is now sseehh and he is in ##AGI #Genifer 13:08 < kanzure> oh 13:08 < kanzure> thank you :) 13:09 < Utopiah> np 13:19 -!- nsh [sbp@59.176.232.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:20 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21 < jrayhawk> github could use git/issue-tracking integration, too 13:21 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:21 < jrayhawk> you guys are aware that ikiwiki has a fairly pleasant hosting service for free software projects, now, right 13:21 < kanzure> you showed it off but if you spam us again we'd appreciate it 13:21 < kanzure> branchly was it? 13:21 < jrayhawk> branchable 13:21 < kanzure> blah 13:22 < kanzure> i really like bugseverywhere but when i tried to use it the other developers got angry that my version of BE was "incompatible" (wtf) 13:22 < jrayhawk> http://branchable.com/ 13:22 < jrayhawk> all the code is here http://ikiwiki-hosting.branchable.com/ 13:22 < jrayhawk> Is BE set up to email people when their bugs change? 13:23 < kanzure> even if it was.. $MAIL isn't properly configured on most user's machines 13:23 < kanzure> i guess you could do a git hook thingy on a bare repo on a server somewhere 13:23 < kanzure> but then you only get updates when it's "officiated" 13:23 < kanzure> (or pushed to that particular server) 13:24 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:40 < Utopiah> An Integration Resolution Algorithm for Mining Multiple Branches in Version Control Systems http://research.microsoft.com/apps/pubs/default.aspx?id=136416 13:46 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 13:51 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-57-83-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-146-189.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21 -!- dustbin [~chatzilla@adsl-71-145-146-189.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:22 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- genehacker [~notanemai@cpe-70-112-176-113.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:39 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:43 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:48 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:24 < kanzure> http://www.crs4.it/vic/cgi-bin/images-page.cgi?id=%2716%27 15:24 < kanzure> "Far Voxels: Interactive inspection of the Boeing 777 dataset. Real-time inspection of the full Boeing 777 CAD model (350M triangles). The image is approximated using 1M voxels and 3.4M triangles." 15:24 < kanzure> that doesn't sound like too big of a visualization to run 15:24 < kanzure> associated image: http://www.crs4.it/vic/data/images/img-exported/farvox-boeing-teaser.png 15:25 < kanzure> hah. http://www.scienceclarified.com/images/uesc_02_img0101.jpg 15:29 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:55 < kanzure> is this worth my time? https://ricklevin.nextlot.com/public/lot/2826092 15:55 < kanzure> it's a kodak document scanner.. 80 pages/min 15:57 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57 < kanzure> there's also a $200 EG&G X-Ray Inspection System SYS215 Linescan with Roller, Model No. SYS215, Serial No. 54771 15:57 < kanzure> and an Alos RP600C Microfiche Reader 16:04 < kanzure> hardened computer-in-a-suitcase for $20 https://ricklevin.nextlot.com/public/lot/2830952?section=photos 16:26 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-57-83-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:33 < kanzure> yay i fixed my wx problems with lolcad. mostly. 16:34 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:02 < dustbin> awesomes 17:06 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@121-98-81-17.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:32 < kanzure> QuantumG: you on the up-and-up on this? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/09/28/breaking-house-to-vote-on-senate-nasa-bill-wednesday/ 17:32 < QuantumG> ya 17:33 < QuantumG> (yesterday's news) 17:35 -!- ferrouswheel [~joel@li159-85.members.linode.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:36 < QuantumG> and, in case you care, the difference between the House and the Senate bill is minor for anything I care about. NASA authorization bills are largely irrelevant anyway. The most interesting thing about that development is that it means they the appropriations committee may be able to move ahead in the lame duck session.. but they probably wont. 17:39 < kanzure> got it 17:48 < kanzure> "Pentagon Spokesman Col. David Lapan said Monday the Department of Defense can "neither confirm nor deny" reports that it launched this attack." 17:48 < kanzure> ^ that was from http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/09/27/pentagon-silent-on-iranian-nuke-virus/ (which isn't worth reading) 17:48 < kanzure> "neither confirm nor deny" hahah 18:00 < jrayhawk> the cyber warfare division isn't that smart, but they want the world to think they *might be* that smart 18:11 < QuantumG> 1. I don't know why people ask 18:11 < QuantumG> 2. I don't know why people report the non-answer 18:12 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:12 < kanzure> probably "well, we paid $200 for the press pass today, got to come up with something" 18:12 < QuantumG> indeed 18:16 -!- splicer [~patrik@h193n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:19 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:20 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:47 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:47 < JayDugger1> http://eset.ru/.company/.viruslab/analytics/doc/Stuxnet_Under_the_Microscope.pdf 19:48 < JayDugger1> 67 pages on Stuxnet. I've not read it. 19:57 < JayDugger1> kanzure: Bid on the hardened computer. The case has more worth than its current bid. 20:07 < JayDugger1> kanzure: Bid on the scanner, too. eBay completed listing show it selling for US$3500-4500. 20:07 < JayDugger1> Bear in mind, that piece weighs 85 pounds. 20:08 < JayDugger1> Time to commute. Good night. 20:08 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #hplusroadmap [] 20:11 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:48 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Quit: memorex] 20:52 -!- Phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:01 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:16 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- Redeemer [~lorddeeme@c-75-72-218-226.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Quit: memorex] 21:46 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:58 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:18 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:57 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudou 22:57 < kanzure> china's youtube 23:00 < kanzure> http://github.com/timschmidt/parameterized-mendel updated 23:09 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11 < phryk> they have their own "icq", too 23:11 < phryk> called qq 23:11 < phryk> and I'm going to work 23:14 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:15 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:22 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23 -!- Phreedom [~quassel@109.254.6.63] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:35 < kanzure> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Giulio Prisco wrote: 23:35 < kanzure> > I was at CERN 1984-1988. I do remember a CAD system called EUCLID, but 23:35 < kanzure> > I don't know if it is still around and I don't think so. 23:36 < kanzure> cool 23:48 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Quit: memorex] --- Log closed Wed Sep 29 00:00:17 2010