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05:38 < archels> heh, re the discussion about that guy who writes papers for students -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/8140456/200-students-admit-cheating-after-professors-online-rant.html
05:44 < dbolser> archels: interesting
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08:43 < ybit> FIlebin has viruses? http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=filebin.ca
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08:57 < kanzure> i don't know what's going on here http://mobilerevolutions.org/Levamicoke/?p=317
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09:22 < kanzure> the mars prize http://journalofcosmology.com/Mars139.html
09:22 < kanzure> holy crap his name is Artemis Westenberg? hahah
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10:12 < kanzure> manufacturing graphics novel http://itdnhr.com/static/tinkerersPDF.pdf
10:15 < kanzure> heh that's by david brin?
10:16 < kanzure> hahaha improvized blowtorch to save the bridge
10:20 < kanzure> what's really ironic about this.. is that it complains that the US primarily produces people in the service and entertainment industries.. but here they are making a graphics novel
10:35 < kanzure> DARPA director has a plan to revive US manufacturing http://blogs.physicstoday.org/politics/2010/01/darpa-director-has-a-plan-to-r.html
10:36 < kanzure> pdf: A framework for revitalizing american manufacturing http://bit.ly/9dmRhf
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10:44 < kanzure> export-import bank http://www.exim.gov/
10:48 < Juul> hey kanzure 
10:49 < Juul> you coming to the hplus thing here in the bay area?
10:54 < kanzure> it's in los angeles
10:55 < kanzure> Juul: but yeah i'm giving a talk apparently
10:55 < kanzure> north carolina transhumanists http://raleigh.craigslist.org/grp/2068096414.html
10:57 < Juul> oh i didn't realize
10:57 < Juul> cool :)
11:06 < kanzure> wtf is this http://www.hpluscommunity.com/
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12:00 < Juul> a very advanced spambot?
12:00 < Juul> :P
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13:22 < kanzure> i am proposing wta-talk and extropy-chat merge
13:22 < kanzure> any comments before i send this email?
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17:32 < kanzure> ferrouswheel: saw your email, thx
17:33 < ferrouswheel> no worries - was nice to have a reference to understand what the lists are (theoretically) for.
17:34 < kanzure> part of the problem is that nobody on leadership@humanityplus.org talks on wta-talk
17:34 < ferrouswheel> and I think the disconnect between the names of wta-talk@transhumanism.org and humanityplus.org weakens the "brand".
17:34 < kanzure> amy li and todd huffman have never posted to wta-talk
17:34 < kanzure> i think the same goes for michael vassar
17:34 < kanzure> (howard bloom is understandable, he seems to be just there as a consultant anyway)
17:36 < ferrouswheel> quite possibly I never have either - although I use to lurk before I stopped keeping track of mailing lists so rigorously.
17:39 < kanzure> there's nothing of value on the list really
17:39 < kanzure> but i'm hoping everyone else will just leave and i can be left alone to do stuff
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17:48 < ferrouswheel> Given the number of people who seemed shocked and horrified to be receiving email about the elections earlier this year, I suspect the non-clean record of transhumanism.org is due to clueless individuals just clicking "report spam" instead of taking the time to unsubscribe.
17:51 < joshcryer> Less talk.
17:59 < kanzure> hmm what's this http://web.archive.org/web/20050407163404/http://www.owlmirror.net/~duggerj/
17:59 < kanzure> JayDugger: ping
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18:04 < kanzure> press release: humanity+ @ caltech http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/Press%20Release%20-%20Humanity+%20@%20Caltech.pdf
18:06 < kanzure> what's with the bad graphic on the bottom right?
18:06 < kanzure> that image has more artifacts than my mom
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18:33 < kanzure> wow they awarded andrei geim a nobel prize for graphene? that's a little inappropriate
18:37 < kanzure> paul allen is funding ed boyden now http://mcgovern.mit.edu/newsroom/press-release-archive/406-ed-boyden-named-allen-distinguished-investigator
18:37 < kanzure> "toward the second generation of optogenetic tools"
18:37 < kanzure> i wish i would have attended the space studies institute conference, and society for neuroscience.. i don't know why i didn't go to either of those
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20:29 < fenn> neuroscience conference would have destroyed you via excess of choice
20:31 < kanzure> just follow ed boyden around and you're good
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20:34 < fenn> apparently there were 30,000 posters being presented
20:37 < QuantumG> are Electroactive Polymers (aka, artificial muscles) out of the lab yet?
20:38 < QuantumG> http://eap.jpl.nasa.gov/ is like the website time forgot
20:38 < fenn> nope
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20:39 < kanzure> "webhub" hehe
20:39 < fenn> it's funny how believable all these stories are http://www.disinfo.com/
20:39 < QuantumG> http://www.artificialmuscle.com/products/reflex-products.php
20:40 < QuantumG> wtf, seriously.. wouldn't you rename your company if, after 10 years, you couldn't actually make an artificial muscle?
20:40 < kanzure> provable market for microactuators 
20:41 < kanzure> and it was probably bought by bayer before they could get their roadmap going
20:42 < fenn> what the heck is an inertial drive actuator?
20:42 < QuantumG> sounds like a name for a sci-fi sublight engine
20:43 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIh8L59sd30  <- the comments are gold
20:44  * fenn clicks warily
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21:05 < kanzure> there was a hotwheels toy once that required a penny in order to work
21:05 < kanzure> what was it?
21:09 < kanzure> hahaha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Wheels_Battle_Force_5
21:09 < kanzure> "Vehicles combine forces to create even more powerful combat machines"
21:09 < kanzure> "The main setting is most commonly referred to as the Multiverse, a universe of dimensions held together by a space station called the Cycloid Zone. Drivers must drive around inside the space station at 88 mph in order to activate the multiverse lense and be transported to the proper multiverse to win their races."
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