--- Log opened Sun Nov 21 00:00:08 2010 00:00 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:06 < fenn> "the center bone is positioned between miku's thighs. it will be the bone you move most frequently when you make an animation." 00:08 < fenn> pretty amazing that somebody wrote their own inverse kinematics character animator just for miku hatsune music videos 00:17 < fenn> hrm. blender sure has changed a lot since i last used it 00:19 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/miku_blender.png what the heck are all those circles 00:28 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-108-17-69-5.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:34 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:37 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:41 < joshcryer> Axis orientation 00:41 < joshcryer> For the main big one. 00:42 < joshcryer> The other ones are for boning, I believe. 00:43 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:48 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 00:49 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:17 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:26 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:14 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #hplusroadmap 04:18 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:00 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:04 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-54.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:15 < kanzure> fenn: todd offered you a free ticket because they are desperate 05:15 < kanzure> they are expecting you to bring other people 05:16 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-54.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 05:19 < kanzure> r13545 = 2750b9efe107beaab6502e61f9ab6f78bc8f401b (refs/remotes/git-svn) 05:19 < kanzure> why is this taking so long 05:34 < JayDugger> What do you work on, kanzure? 05:51 < kanzure> importing nanoengineer-1 svn into git 05:58 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 06:02 < JayDugger> Well, it is good work to do. 06:12 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:19 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:48 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:49 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:58 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:02 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:13 < kanzure> Checking out files: 0% (1357/332181) 07:15 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:16 -!- phreedom_ [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:18 -!- cycon [~cycon@c-24-5-9-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:19 < kanzure> hi cycon 07:20 < cycon> heya 07:26 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:45 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-67-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 07:50 < kanzure> why does so much of my life revolve around paul rothemund 07:50 < kanzure> http://www.nanoengineer-1.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNA_Origami_-_Creating_the_Nanorex_logo 07:56 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-108-17-69-5.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:56 < JayDugger> Similar interests? 08:01 < kanzure> no 08:02 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:03 < kanzure> okay nanoengineer.git created but i need to figure out how to move it into piny 08:10 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #hplusroadmap 08:15 < kanzure> it's still doing something so please be nice to it.. 08:15 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer/ 08:15 < kanzure> git clone git://diyhpl.us/nanoengineer 08:27 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-76-197.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:35 < kanzure> haha technologiclee has made tutorials http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfXzTrwI3c 08:44 < kanzure> http://nanoengineer-1.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=50 09:01 < kanzure> remote: skipping bad filename trunk/cad/tests/AMBER_test_structures/dot_in/opls_unint/TYU_TYROSINE,_UNITED_ATOM_AROMATIC_PARAMETERS.in_frag 09:01 < kanzure> it's still doing something so please be nice to it..? 09:01 < kanzure> blah 09:01 < kanzure> what's wrong with it 09:07 -!- infomorph [~infomorph@adsl-99-92-191-180.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@pool-108-17-69-5.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:16 < kanzure> remote: skipping bad filename trunk/sim/src/parameters/moieties/C=.moi 09:16 < kanzure> ok i guess that's a legitimately bad filename 09:29 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:40 < kanzure> cycon: checkout emokit 09:45 < kanzure> git push done now 09:45 < kanzure> took 30min 09:45 < kanzure> (local push) 10:22 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:25 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:28 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:35 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:49 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50 -!- ybit [4c1df68b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.29.246.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:01 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:29 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 11:40 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:45 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:51 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:02 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11 -!- memorex [~durp@97.67.109.107] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:17 < cycon> kanzure, nice one, cheers 12:21 < cycon> hmm, actually that looks like just the raw signals with the cracked keys 12:22 < cycon> i'm interested parsing their detections from Python 12:23 < cycon> raw is great if you want to do OpenViBE or BCI2000 or similar software, I'm developing open source software for schools, need to play nice with their license to distribute )c: 12:24 < kanzure> i think there was also something proprietary for openvibe 12:24 < cycon> yeah they have an official driver if you have a research sdk license 12:25 < cycon> which I do... but I want to develop for the consumer and release for schools... so need to wrap their official C++ SDK 12:25 * cycon shrugs 12:25 < kanzure> do you have the header files to their SDK 12:25 < cycon> yep 12:25 < kanzure> would you be willing to share those 12:26 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26 < cycon> heh, I can't .. I know some folks at Emotiv, they'd not appreciate it (c: 12:26 < cycon> just don't want to develop in C++ or .Net for that matter 12:27 < cycon> I mean, it depends what folks are after. If I just wanted to hack, raw eeg + openvibe would be all that was needed, could do detections there 12:27 < cycon> i believe you can do that with the consumer headset + emokit 12:27 < cycon> but if I want to do legit software releases, need to play ball 12:28 < cycon> http://brainstorms.puzzlebox.info 12:29 < cycon> right now supporting NeuroSky because they give you access to their serial protocol including raw eeg and detections 12:29 < cycon> emotiv doesn't follow that model 12:29 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:42 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:45 < archels> < fenn> http://www.theaudeo.com/?action=technology 12:46 < archels> I loved this thing from day 1. Awesome that it's now commercially available. 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.33] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:10 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- phryk [~phryk@yggdrasil.phryk.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14 -!- phryk [~phryk@yggdrasil.phryk.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:18 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:20 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:20 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe29dd00-137.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.33] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07 -!- ybit [42d0f48d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.208.244.141] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:20 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- klafka [~klafka@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- patrik [~patrik@h197n1c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- patrik is now known as Guest60985 16:21 -!- Guest60985 is now known as splicer_ 16:21 < kanzure> QuantumG: why do you have a low opinion of opencog? 16:25 < QuantumG> we're doing this again? ok.. so far as I can tell, no-one uses it. If they do, then they're not exactly advertising the fact. 16:26 < QuantumG> There's a regular bunch of "contributors" who never write a line of code.. they just whine about how its put together. 16:27 < QuantumG> which is not really surprising, because it's put together terribly.. horribly messy code, unnecessary dependencies (boost in particular) which make compilation take hours just to do trivial changes. 16:27 < QuantumG> oh, and at every opportunity the leaders of the project talk about how they can make it less open. 16:27 < QuantumG> that enough? 16:29 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:31 < kanzure> huh? "about how they can make it less open" 16:31 < kanzure> what about the actual functionality? a lot of it seems silghtly redundant or poorly architectured to me 16:31 < QuantumG> "functionality" implies it is good for something 16:31 < QuantumG> as I said, I've not actually seen it do anything 16:33 < drazak> kanzure: are the stepper motors I can get from printers any good? 16:34 < kanzure> i've never used them ask #reprap 16:34 < drazak> no thanks 16:34 < QuantumG> that's not to say no-one has.. perhaps some months of digging could find some applications.. but most likely you'll discover that only the isolated components of the system have gotten any use.. like PLN and MOSES. 16:36 < kanzure> MOSES was something by a microsoft guy actually 16:36 < kanzure> outside of opencog 16:36 < QuantumG> yeah.. PLN was originally called PTL and is more of an opencog native 16:37 < QuantumG> apparently they've done some applications of it to genomics... but so far as I'm aware that code was never made available. 16:41 < kanzure> probably ben's genescient work 16:42 < QuantumG> if someone took opencog and applied it to something, and made that code available as an open source project, it would have a changing effect on the project I think. 16:42 < QuantumG> something people could actually use 16:42 < kanzure> i think it has some grammar parsing stuff somewhere, but i forget 16:42 -!- cycon [~cycon@c-24-5-9-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42 < kanzure> matvey (you don't know him) was asking about opencog and i haven't really used it 16:42 < kanzure> so i was hoping to give him deets 16:43 < QuantumG> well, there's code there to do stuff.. if you can get it to work it could save you some time 16:46 < kanzure> ferrouswheel: what do you think? 17:05 < kanzure> i like how the site doesn't actually explain anything 17:06 < QuantumG> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/OpenCog_Prime 17:06 < QuantumG> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/OpenCogPrime:WikiBook 17:06 < QuantumG> ^^ - intention 17:08 < kanzure> oh i guess ther's this http://wiki.opencog.org/w/OpenCog_Framework 17:09 < QuantumG> the goal formation stuff is the most interesting.. because "figuring out how to do stuff" is what AGI is to me. 17:12 < QuantumG> (none of that has been implemented) 17:24 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: Yup - I'm not writing code, I get someone else to write it and then they commit it... /sarcasm 17:25 < ferrouswheel> but whatever. 17:26 -!- ybit [42d0f48d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.208.244.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:26 < ferrouswheel> I'm more concerned about your claim that we are somehow making it less open? 17:33 < drazak> kanzure: how much do you know about memory these days? 17:37 < kanzure> not keeping track at the moment 17:37 < QuantumG> ferrouswheel: I was quoting you 17:39 < ferrouswheel> Really... care to tell me where exactly I made this quote? 17:41 < QuantumG> it was on #opencog.. anyway, are you saying that's not the case? 17:41 < drazak> kanzure: human memory 17:42 < kanzure> drazak: no i mean i haven't been keeping track of human memory stuff lately 17:42 < kanzure> superkuh: maybe you have something 17:43 < QuantumG> "the openness of the project is in question. while OpenCog is open source, they want to keep the frontend hush hush, but Ben thinks we don't need to, and I don't really want to either." - ferrouswheel 17:43 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: I have no intention of making it "less open". 17:44 < ferrouswheel> That's a research project using OpenCog as the backend reasoning system. 17:44 < drazak> kanzure: oh ok 17:44 < drazak> kanzure: how would you classify almost perfect visual memory recall? atleast, for written things 17:44 < QuantumG> yeah, I was just looking at that and thinking I probably read too much into it. 17:46 -!- futuresoon [~Xeones@cpe-66-108-47-84.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:46 < QuantumG> if someone took opencog and applied it to something, and made that code available as an open source project, it would have a changing effect on the project I think. something people could actually use. <- any part of that you disagree with ferrouswheel? 17:46 < kanzure> drazak: eidetic? 17:47 < futuresoon> open cog is the "strong" AI for open simulator right? 17:47 < ferrouswheel> OpenCog itself will remain open, I'm just saying we're trying to push to make the entire research project open... but the funding sources are cagey since open source is kind of new to them. 17:47 < drazak> kanzure: that's what I thought 17:50 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: that makes sense, I don't dispute that OpenCog's functionality is somewhat obtuse at the moment. 17:50 < futuresoon> something about economics of attention... or something 17:50 < futuresoon> didn't invest my attention in it 17:51 < futuresoon> ferrouswheel: basically you're saying that without the research, people wouldn't know how architectural decisions were made? 17:51 < futuresoon> well that makes sense 17:52 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: We'll clearly document the network protocol for this HK embodiment project at any rate, so it shouldn't be too hard for someone to mock up an OSS frontend. 17:52 < QuantumG> there was someone in #opencog the other day ranting about "architectural decisions".. in the end I basically had to tell him to go away and write some code or shut up :) 17:54 < ferrouswheel> futuresoon: I'm not too sure what you mean? We try to explain the decisions we make, but sometimes these decisions aren't clear because it's research. 17:54 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: Which is understandable, but he's never contributed to OpenCog and thinks he should be given some (non-existant) shares in the project. 17:55 < QuantumG> oh, *that* guy is still around? 17:55 < QuantumG> sheesh 17:55 < ferrouswheel> (and it saved me from telling him the same ;p) 17:55 < futuresoon> is opencog the one where you can train your pet in second life? 17:55 < ferrouswheel> futuresoon: yeah, although multiverse is the online world that's been developed the most. 17:56 < futuresoon> oh yeah, i remember multiverse being a reason linden labs open sourced their thingamajig 17:56 < futuresoon> so that's coming along huh? 17:56 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:57 < ferrouswheel> futuresoon: I'm going to be building on that to create (initially stupid) human-ish characters. 17:57 < ferrouswheel> anyhow, now I have to write some actual code ;-) 17:57 < QuantumG> futuresoon: I've not spoken to anyone who claims to have gotten it working 17:57 < QuantumG> I've heard ferrouswheel say he couldn't get it working :) 17:59 < futuresoon> there used to be a guy who used to work for OpenCyc doing a RDF/Java text based dialog that was supposed to write its own code 17:59 < futuresoon> wonder what happened to that 17:59 < ferrouswheel> QuantumG: yeah, I struggled with it... I think various changes have caused it to be unreliable since it hasn't been maintained since the Brazilian guys stopped working on it. Hope to change that here... (really going now :p) 18:00 < QuantumG> "Brazilian guys" brings back more OpenCog bad memories 18:01 < QuantumG> the nicest thing I can say about OpenCog if anyone asks me is: there might be some code in there you can use 18:01 < QuantumG> and I think that's the intention 18:03 < futuresoon> obviously we should just have really good weak AI 18:03 < QuantumG> aka ROS? 18:04 < futuresoon> ros? 18:04 < futuresoon> robot os? 18:04 < QuantumG> ya 18:04 < futuresoon> i mean text based, not spatial awareness 18:04 < futuresoon> but yeah that too 18:04 < QuantumG> you mean chatbot? 18:04 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:04 < futuresoon> i like one called SIRI, but it's iphone only, closed 18:05 < kanzure> cook alert 18:05 < futuresoon> cook or kook 18:05 < kanzure> both! 18:05 < futuresoon> like swedish chef? 18:05 < futuresoon> that reminds me, there's a great swedish chef chatbot 18:07 < futuresoon> if you limited an AI's responses to that it "must only do things that are probably useful" then it will automatically seem smarter than a human 18:07 < futuresoon> even if it's a "weak" AI 18:08 < futuresoon> other than that, partial probabilities, a model of causality written in RDF sound useful 18:09 < kanzure> what is it with you people and RDF, SQL, XML, and SPARQL? ugh 18:09 < QuantumG> try it, apply it to something practical that proves it works by actually being useful, publish. 18:10 < futuresoon> the biggest criticism of RDF i've personally heard is that it would be hard to input cause your immediate output doesn't benefit anyone 18:10 < futuresoon> QuantumG: i just stay on top of the developments of others in this area 18:10 < futuresoon> (to some extent) 18:11 < futuresoon> whether you call it RDF the point is to have a DAG of causal relationships with partial probabilities, which is the thing i think is useful 18:12 < QuantumG> maybe if you had a few casual relationships you wouldn't be such a dag. 18:12 < kanzure> QuantumG: be nice 18:12 < QuantumG> :) 18:13 < futuresoon> word. 18:16 < futuresoon> so what's the coolest demo of something on ROS? 18:16 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cslPMzklVo 18:16 < QuantumG> has lots 18:19 < futuresoon> that's really cool 18:20 < futuresoon> that's now a huge part of my future plans 18:20 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3slROzVNbc seems like an interesting place to integrate goal learning 18:22 < futuresoon> goal learning? 18:23 < futuresoon> is that like finding out intermediate goals that further some user-defined end goal? 18:23 < QuantumG> that's a good description yes 18:26 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28 < futuresoon> oh so PR2 can use a lot of cores? 18:28 < futuresoon> i mean robots in general could use a lot of cores 18:28 < futuresoon> that's pretty great 18:29 < QuantumG> yeah.. it's a totally distributed architecture 18:29 < QuantumG> message/subscriber based 18:30 < futuresoon> message like i could get the state of an actuator like an rss feed? 18:31 < QuantumG> I imagine you could write an rss feed from the messages, sure 18:32 < QuantumG> I imagine someone has 18:33 < futuresoon> whoa this is so weird---willow garage has something called texai, and texai.org is something i've been following and it's different i guess? 18:33 < QuantumG> heh, yes 18:34 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-69-166-247.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:35 < futuresoon> what's really funny is that all this stuff is the stuff i thought microsoft would still do as all the simple software got open sourced 18:35 < QuantumG> microsoft are trying to position themselves to provide the operating systems for robots 18:36 < QuantumG> they have their own products. 18:47 -!- shepazu [~schepers@adsl-242-206-29.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- futuresoon [~Xeones@cpe-66-108-47-84.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:56 -!- JaredWigmore [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:00 -!- JaredWigmore is now known as JaredW 19:01 -!- futuresoon [~Xeones@cpe-66-108-47-84.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- JaredW [~JaredW@122-59-91-107.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:07 < futuresoon> http://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/more-famous-lady-gaga <---- this article is missing siri.com 19:07 < futuresoon> siri is a better example of apple's "knowledge navigator" 19:08 < kanzure> apple kook detectors on 19:08 < kanzure> let me guess.. you bought the siri app 19:09 < QuantumG> kanzure: ya think you could get a 3d printer through airport security? 19:09 < kanzure> there's a few at LA if that's what you're asking 19:10 < kanzure> "look! i can print GIANT DILDOS on the 3h flight! be careful i might fuck you with them" 19:10 < QuantumG> 3d printing a gun would be hilarious (for a few minutes) 19:10 -!- flamt [~root@bas5-barrie18-2925084752.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:10 < QuantumG> but I guess you could just carve a realistic one out of soap using a plastic spoon 19:14 < kanzure> don't forget if it was in plastic it would be recyclable 19:14 < kanzure> The Green Terror 19:14 < kanzure> not affiliated with the green lantern or his subsidaries 19:14 < QuantumG> yeah, you could hijack the plane and then fly around replacing parts of the cockpit with 3d printed alternatives.. that'll show em 19:18 < futuresoon> kanzure, no i didn't buy the siri app, it's free for iphone users, and i don't have an iphone i'm getting a droid 19:18 < futuresoon> when apple bought siri i was very disappointed, not least because it was a 700 million dollar project by DARPA and therefore should be public domain 19:21 < futuresoon> is there something else like siri? 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