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03:07 < archels> five kanzures?!
03:08 < archels> What will happen to our single hashed counterpart? Some sort of auto-redirect, or a +m so that it can no longer be used?
03:10 < archels> Oh, it *is* +m. Good.
03:25 < kanzure> and it is iredirecting.
03:25 < kanzure> *redirecting. apparently i need more sleep
03:30 < archels> excellent
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04:15 < epithet> too many kanzures
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07:25 < strages> wtf
07:39 < archels> welcome
07:41 < strages> what happened to #hplusroadmap and why can't I get in it?
07:41 < kanzure> we've moved.
07:41 < strages> why?
07:41 < kanzure> in order to better serve our customers.
07:41 < archels> strages: looky, we have a topic!!
07:42 < strages> how is adding a character to the channel location better serving customers
07:42 < kanzure> we now have ops
07:43 < klafka> where id we move to?
07:43 < klafka> ##hplusroadmap instead of #hplusroadmap?
07:43 < kanzure> yes
07:43 < kanzure> #hplusroadmap redirects here.
07:43 < strages> ah
07:43 < klafka> the ##hplusroadmap means it's an unofficial channgel strages
07:43 < klafka> if a name has an official counterpart then the #name version is reserved for hte "official" channel
07:43 < kanzure> or it means the freenode staff member was too lazy to fix #hplusroadmap so he closed it instead
07:43 < strages> yeah I knew about that practice
07:44 < klafka> ahahaha
07:44 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-21.log
07:44 < killall-9> at least it's not &hplusroadmap
07:44 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-22.log
07:44 < kanzure> in case you missed anything relevant (you haven't)
07:45 < strages> I started #hackerspaces and #makerslocal, my local hackerspace's channel.  Never received any complaints from freenode admins
07:45 < kanzure> yes but you have official equivalents for both
07:45 < kanzure> the hplusroadmap site died sometime in 2007
07:45 < strages> oh
07:46 < klafka> lol
07:46 < strages> alright, I undestand now
07:46 < klafka> yeah we had to fight with them over #bioinformatics for awhile
07:49 < strages> forgive me, but what is bioinformatics
07:49 < strages> I have a couple of friends that work for Hudson Alpha down here, that do that
07:50 < strages> or I should say at Hudson Alpha
07:50 < kanzure> #bioinformatics: where ponies and probabilistic models are awesome :: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5k_pdb22ZJA/SpyRZ1Zi8UI/AAAAAAAAAIs/GGzauEoWYa4/s400/deal_with_it.gif
07:50 < kanzure> strages: bioinformatics is basically all the computer people dealing with the massive amounts of data coming in from DNA sequencers and crystallography runs
07:51 < strages> ah ok
07:51 < strages> we're thinking about getting an openpcr setup in the next 3-5 months
07:51 < kanzure> you should just build your own pcr machine
07:51 < kanzure> openpcr isn't too spectacular :( or open
07:52 < strages> oh
07:52 < strages> got any links toward getting started on one?
07:52 < kanzure> too many.. http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/Projects
07:52 < kanzure> oops bad link
07:52 < kanzure> try this instead: http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ/Projects
07:53 < kanzure> hmm thermocyclers aren't listed there?
07:53 < kanzure> well. google around for DIY thermocyclers.. there's tons that cost less than $30
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08:08 < kanzure> hi fitzsim
08:08 < kanzure> you see the committs?
08:08 < kanzure> commits
08:14 < fitzsim> yeah, thanks for doing them
08:14 < fitzsim> I tried building the result on F-13
08:14 < fitzsim> I got a lot farther than before they were checked in but the build failed eventually with a failure I hadn't seen before
08:15 < fitzsim> newtables.c:1051: error: ‘RCSID_BENDS_H’ undeclared here (not in a function)
08:15 < fitzsim> newtables.c:1052: error: ‘RCSID_BONDS_H’ undeclared here (not in a function)
08:19 < klafka> hey can anyone get this article ? http://www.springerlink.com/content/yv7t1r50507133l4/
08:31 < kanzure> klafka i can in 30min
08:31 < klafka> sweet
08:32 < kanzure> actually i should make a bot
08:33 < klafka> i mentioned this before i think
08:33 < kanzure> fitzim yeah please post a reprt to nanoengineer-dev
08:34 < kanzure> and bug me to deploy the bug tracker :x
08:34 < fitzsim> kanzure: http://pastebin.com/hcZtmj0r
08:34 < fitzsim> kanzure: that fixes it
08:34 < fitzsim> kanzure: and the build completes now, neat
08:35 < fitzsim> kanzure: looks like cad/src/Makefile and sim/src/Makefile are checked in then overwritten by bootstrap?
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08:51 < delinquentme> HI KANZURE!
08:51 < delinquentme> all of you!
09:08 < kanzure> klafka: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/Prooxidant%20and%20cytotoxic%20action%20of%20N-acetylcysteine%20and%20glutathione%20in%20combinations%20with%20vitamin%20B12b.pdf
09:09 < kanzure> biotech for the masses (another genspace article) http://motherboard.tv/2010/12/22/biotech-for-the-masses
09:12 < kanzure> http://openpcr.org/2010/12/openpcr-at-the-grenswerk-art-festival-enschede-the-netherlands/
09:16 < kanzure> fitzsim: huh? you mean those makefiles are re-generated?
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09:43 < kanzure> klafka: do you remember my reasoning for why i didn't make a paperbot before
09:43 < klafka> it was buggy and hard?
09:43 < kanzure> i probably had a good reason if we explicitly talked about this
09:43 < kanzure> haha well yes
09:43 < kanzure> everyone says thy like the idea of pyscholar but nobody contributes
09:43 < kanzure> or fixes my horrible architecture
09:43 < kanzure> http://github.com/kanzure/pyscholar
09:43 < klafka> haha
09:44 < klafka> yeah that's probably the problem no one wants to contribute
09:44 < klafka> i'll thikn about doing it over this break
09:44 < kanzure> huh? i'm sure people would love to solve this overall
09:44 < kanzure> zotero is clearly an example of people solving it
09:44 < kanzure> it's just they are doing it all wrong and are making it tied into firefox
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09:50 < klafka> haha
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09:57 < fitzsim> kanzure: yeah, cad/src/Makefile and sim/src/Makefile are overwritten by configure
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11:05 < mheld> since when did this room become invite-only?
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11:15 < kanzure> mheld: it's not
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11:19 < mheld> kanzure: why do I keep getting molested with a notice saying #hplusroadmap is an invite-only chatroom
11:19 < mheld> ?
11:20 < kanzure> it should be redirecting you here when you /join it
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11:20 < kanzure__> like that :(
11:21 < kanzure> when do you get molested?
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11:37 < mheld> kanzure: "The room "#hplusroadmap" on "irc.freenode.net" is invite only."
11:37 < mheld> any time I join the room
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14:33 < kanzure> http://gitduino.com/
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14:48 < kanzure> Identifying the sea changes and opportunities in "biohacking" http://thinktech.honadvblogs.com/2010/12/21/identifying-the-sea-changes-and-opportunities-in-biohacking/
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14:57 < QuantumG> what sort of "acrylic" was she making?
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16:14 < bdesk> do transhumanists have their own christmas holiday kind of like kwanza?
16:15 < kanzure> some of the extropians practice newtonmas but it's more of a joke
16:16 < kanzure> i'm a fan of festivus
16:16 < bdesk> is newtonmas like gravmas
16:16 < kanzure> no it's celebrating newton's birthday or something
16:17 < bdesk> i like seinfeld but im not going to start worshiping it lol
16:17 <@jrayhawk> we decorate bryan with circuit boards and LEDs and cables and singe transhuman carols
16:17 <@jrayhawk> sing
16:17 < kanzure> http://www.kurzweilai.net/i-am-the-very-model-of-a-singularitarian
16:18 < bdesk> gravmas is also to celebrate newtons birthday
16:21 < kanzure> old school rocket machining
16:21 < kanzure> http://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1952.jpg
16:22 < kanzure> http://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1946.jpg
16:22 < kanzure> http://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/Machines/OldMachines/Nasa1951.jpg
16:23 < bdesk> that is a bigass cnc
16:27 < kanzure> i had a pic somewhere of a warehouse-sized lathe.. dunno where it went.
16:28 < bdesk> the problem with real things is that they take up space
16:28 < bdesk> and they are heavy
16:29 < QuantumG> compared to non-real things, yes, I imagine anything would be heavy ;)
16:29 < bdesk> and often consume resources to operate
16:33 < kanzure> bdesk: fenn's idea was to make them.. not big/heavy http://fennetic.net/bfi/
16:33 < kanzure> rough approximation: http://fennetic.net/bfi/hextatic.jpg
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18:09 < kanzure> "A group of British schoolchildren may be the youngest scientists ever to have their work published in a peer-reviewed journal. In a new paper in Biology Letters, children from Blackawton Primary School report that buff-tailed bumblebees can learn to recognize nourishing flowers based on colors and patterns.The paper itself is well worth reading. It's written entirely in the kids' voices, complete with sound effects (part of the Methods section is 
18:09 < kanzure> http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/22/2252222
18:09 < kanzure> http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/12/18/rsbl.2010.1056
18:11 < kanzure> "peer reviewed.. by other 8 year olds?"
18:17 < bdesk> by maddox
18:18 < bdesk> http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/
18:20 < kanzure> is his new book out yet
18:26 < bdesk> QuantumG: thats the joke
18:27 < kanzure> heh peer reviewed by maddox
18:27 < kanzure> we need to get maddox to peer review it
18:31 < bdesk> i could do it, on christmas, alone in a dark apartment
18:32 < kanzure> you live a lonely life my friend
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22:46 < flamot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZoR8sn7Kmk
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