--- Log opened Thu Dec 23 00:00:04 2010 00:15 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:09 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:09 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-71-97-1-15.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:10 < JayDugger1> Good morning, everyone. 02:10 < JayDugger1> What story lies behind the channel change from "#hplusroadmap" to "##hplusroadmap"? 02:10 < Utopiah> being able to register it 02:29 < JayDugger1> Oh? 02:29 < JayDugger1> That's not very dramatic. 02:29 < JayDugger1> How very unexciting. 02:29 < JayDugger1> Thank you for letting me know. 02:29 -!- JayDugger1 [~Jay_Dugge@pool-71-97-1-15.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 03:05 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@pD9E2EFED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:06 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@pD9E2EFED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:12 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:19 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:50 < Utopiah> ideas to use personal logs a bit more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_sociology 03:52 < uniqanomaly_> i wonder why kanzure needs 4 clones, logs redundancy? lol 04:13 < kanzure> it's so i can attack jrayhawk when he isn't looking 04:31 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@pD9E2EFED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:55 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:58 -!- niftyzero1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:16 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:53 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:23 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:26 < kanzure> http://i.materialise.com/blog/entry/2010-the-year-in-3d-printing 06:28 < kanzure> hmm that's not very comprehensive 06:31 < JayDugger> Nope. 06:43 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 07:03 < JayDugger> What would you add to that list, "2010 in 3d printing?" 07:24 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:33 -!- bdesk [~argriffi@unaffiliated/bdesk] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 07:41 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < delinquentme> GOOD morningggg! 08:01 -!- killall-9 [~paulc@diana.null.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:55 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.179.66] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:55 < kanzure> i'll be making an appearance later this evening on the hackerspaces.org radio show, "signal" 08:55 < kanzure> http://signal.hackerspaces.org/ 09:05 < delinquentme> oooooo 09:05 < delinquentme> sounds fancy 09:05 < delinquentme> online broadcast? 09:23 < kanzure> yes 09:31 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 09:34 < archels> kanzure: ETA? 09:34 < kanzure> 3h 30min i think. i'm not really sure :) 09:35 < archels> /dev/random eh 09:41 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:50 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:50 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02 -!- evilmquin [~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:03 -!- evilmquin [~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 10:12 -!- Noahj [~noa@24.38.179.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:13 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:25 < kanzure> JayDugger: all of the reprap stuff going on 10:29 < archels> kanzure: Can you give a heads up when your segment begins? 10:36 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 < kanzure> sure. 11:02 < kanzure> ogg stream: http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.ogg.m3u 11:02 < kanzure> mp3 stream: http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.mp3.m3u 11:06 < kanzure> redefining food and human digestion http://www.good.is/post/future-foragers-dunne-raby-redesign-human-digestion-to-redefine-food/ 11:07 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:45 < kanzure> martine rothblatt invented sirius satellite radio? 11:45 < kanzure> what? 12:15 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22 < archels> kanzure: T-40min? 12:23 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:24 < kanzure> archels: i don't claim to understand time zones 12:25 < archels> well, 40 minutes from *now*, wherever you are. ;) 12:28 < kanzure> their show is 22 to 00 CET, so i guess that's 15 to 17 CST 12:29 < kanzure> so i guess it depends on when they decide they need my charming voice 12:34 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:35 < archels> Ah okay. Yeah, there are far too many timezones. That should place the show at 25 minutes from now. 12:40 -!- flamot [~root@70.49.175.107] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 < kanzure> "Emma Tillman (114, siblings lived to 108, 105, 103, 102)" 12:40 < kanzure> hm 12:50 < uniqanomaly_> came to my mind lately, anyone have any thoughts/know about research on possible relation of contraception on longevity? 12:50 < archels> uniqanomaly_: Never did look into that, did cross my mind at some point though. :) 12:53 < kanzure> michael rose and greg fahy have a lot of lectures out there on the web that explore that 12:53 < uniqanomaly_> http://www.medindia.net/news/Contraceptive-Pill-Boosts-Longevity-in-Women-Study-66293-1.htm 12:53 < uniqanomaly_> something here 12:53 < kanzure> lookup greg fahy's work on google scholar or something, i'm sure he's written extensively 12:54 < augur> kanzure: have a large magellanic cloud 12:54 < augur> http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/files/50133/LMC.jpg 12:54 < augur> :T 12:56 -!- augur is now known as YeshuaLord 12:56 < kanzure> max more is looking for a publisher for hsi anthology of transhumanist essays 12:56 < kanzure> *his 12:56 < kanzure> i suggested self-publishing or Humanity+ Press but he doesn't seem too thrilled about either of those 12:56 -!- YeshuaLord is now known as augur 12:56 < kanzure> kinda embarrassing not to use humanity+ press (i guess they don't think it's a serious publisher?) 12:57 < augur> kanzure: fine, dont enjoy your LMC 12:57 < augur> :| 12:57 < uniqanomaly_> i bet we could achieve notably life extension by synergetic usage of like 5-20 different molecules 12:58 < uniqanomaly_> this, that, something else 12:58 < uniqanomaly_> and whole system is overclocked 12:58 < uniqanomaly_> and you get 200 years in good health 12:58 < archels> Don't you think someone would have come across the magic combination already and lived in good health up to 150 or so? 12:59 < uniqanomaly_> ;) 13:00 < archels> We've all seen the film clip from the old lady's 122th birthday... oldest known in the modern world. 13:00 < uniqanomaly_> yeah 13:01 < kanzure> archels: no, 22 molecules out of a few trillion possible molecules? that's quite a huge search space ;) 13:01 < kanzure> plus we can't really rapidly tell whether or not it's working 13:01 < archels> kanzure: Sure, but it's not like the probability is evenly distributed among those few trillion. 13:02 < archels> haha great music 13:04 < archels> They used Skype for a live interview? nice 13:04 < uniqanomaly_> it's 2010, isn't it? 13:04 < uniqanomaly_> ;) 13:05 < kanzure> i can't listen to the stream 13:05 < kanzure> this is hilarious. oh well 13:05 < kanzure> access_mms access error: cannot connect to signal.hackerspaces.org:8090 13:05 < kanzure> No stream found to handle url http://signal.hackerspaces.org:8090/signal.mp3.m3u 13:05 < uniqanomaly_> vlc works great 13:05 < archels> Well, the people being interviewed seem to be laughing a lot. 13:14 < augur> kanzure: dutchies onnaradio? 13:15 < archels> hehe 13:15 < augur> no seriously, was one of the hosts there dutch? 13:16 < kanzure> yeah i think so 13:16 < augur> damn im good with accents :D 13:16 < augur> you know how you can tell? 13:16 < augur> s -> sh 13:16 < augur> but not in a sean connery sense lol 13:17 < archels> I think I heard two Dutch guys 13:17 < archels> make that three 13:20 < kanzure> i still can't connect (i think i screwed up port 8090 on my laptop and iptables/route isn't showing what) 13:24 < archels> Did anyone catch those domain names? 13:33 < kanzure> no, i'm still not connected 13:34 < kanzure> you'll have to fill me in on what they are talking about 13:35 < archels> I suspect that there'll be a podcast eventually. 13:37 < kanzure> well yes but if i'm interviewed and don't know what they're talking about then that kinda sucks :) 13:39 < archels> Oh, yours is live too? 13:39 < archels> They're goint to phone you? 13:47 < kanzure> yeah 13:49 < kanzure> there we go 13:51 < archels> HI BRYAN 13:56 < kanzure> hmm 13:57 < archels> `halp I'm surrounded by Dutchies' 13:58 < archels> no endocrinology/diet stuff? 14:08 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:08 < archels> the lady pronounces diybio in a nice way, with the emphasis on the first i 14:09 <@jrayhawk> haha @ "SEMs can SEE ATOMS, MAN" 14:13 < kanzure> it's so whacky! 14:13 < kanzure> that wasn't what i thought it would be 14:13 < kanzure> i didn't get to rant enough :P 14:14 < kanzure> haha now the stream works 14:14 < kanzure> screw this 14:21 < archels> kudos, kanzure ;) 14:22 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o jrayhawk] by jrayhawk 14:25 < uniqanomaly_> omg 14:26 < kanzure> archels: thanks 14:26 < uniqanomaly_> most media are for retards by retards 14:26 < uniqanomaly_> how simple is that 14:26 < kanzure> maybe i should have been more aggressive 14:26 < kanzure> and got another 10min of talk time :) 14:26 < jrayhawk> well i am sure they're willing to have you on again some other time 14:26 < jrayhawk> but they also seem to be willing to cut you off wherever they feel like it 14:28 < archels> A group discussion is nice, but they had quite a lot of people, so it was a bit harder to follow and each person got less time to talk. 14:29 < kanzure> it was a little less technical than i was hoping.. this is the hackerspaces.org station, c'mon 14:33 < kanzure> "fast forward radio" is similar but each person gets to speak longer 14:35 < kanzure> oh man bitchin' 8bit 14:35 < archels> They seem to like it. :P 14:38 < kanzure> i should have complained about my tracert problems 14:44 -!- mheld [~mheld@c-75-69-89-109.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] 14:47 < Utopiah> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4099.en.html 14:48 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/saigon-hackspace 14:57 < Utopiah> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4003.en.html 14:57 < kanzure> do you think i could run a better radio program? All kanzure all the time 14:57 < kanzure> it'd be awesome. 15:00 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:03 -!- metafire [~quassel@pD9F8AF1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:13 -!- g4k [~halliburt@pool-72-64-141-214.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:13 < g4k> what's hplus mean 15:13 < kanzure> hi g4k 15:13 < kanzure> hplus stands for transhumanism 15:13 < g4k> and why are there 5 kanzure's? 15:13 < kanzure> it's so i can go to war with @jrayhawk 15:14 < g4k> transhumanism, isn't that just the antiquated 90's term used to replace the overpopularized and idealized 'cyberpunk'? 15:14 < kanzure> no 15:14 < kanzure> transhumanism means 'human enhancement' 15:14 < g4k> er 15:14 < g4k> cybernetics 15:14 < kanzure> whatever. the point is, some of us want to edit our genomes, fuck up our bodies with lentiviruses, 15:15 < kanzure> and some of us just want to make glow-in-the-dark yogurt 15:15 < g4k> oh 15:15 < g4k> well jesus 15:15 < g4k> im in for the glow in the dark yogurt 15:15 < kanzure> hell yeah! 15:15 < g4k> but the editing genomes thing without proper humanist oversight seems a little audacious 15:16 < kanzure> who said without proper oversight? 15:16 < kanzure> are you a troll 15:16 < g4k> i've been reading up on how to build flow cytometers 15:16 < kanzure> cool 15:16 < g4k> i got the 'pracical flow cytometry' book by shapiro 15:16 < kanzure> tell us tell us :) 15:16 < g4k> it's a good book. if you can find it at a 2nd hand book store, buy it. 15:16 < g4k> it's like the old forest mimms books, everything is hand-drawn 15:18 < g4k> have you heard of flow cytometry yet? 15:18 < kanzure> yes 15:19 < g4k> apparently Nathan McCorkle has made one 15:19 < g4k> http://groups.google.com/group/diybio/browse_thread/thread/2c700a8f7f595479/8f09e60d09f1a044?lnk=gst&q=cytometer#8f09e60d09f1a044 15:19 < kanzure___> no nathan has not 15:19 < g4k> haven't started construction yet, still getting through the book, but I think I have a crew of bio-curious individuals 15:19 < g4k> oh, that was a copy/paste from an article 15:20 < kanzure> good 15:20 < g4k> sweet. i could still be the ~first 15:20 < kanzure> well, i'm going to pester you to make it all open source hardware 15:20 < kanzure> and liberally licensed and using good CAD standards and shit :) 15:20 < kanzure> so prepare to be pestered! 15:20 < g4k> thatd be neat 15:20 < g4k> we are anticipating a 40w laser cutter next month 15:20 < g4k> hopefully that'll help 15:20 < kanzure> also i have some money for this sort of stuff if you ever have a specific BOM and need for cash.. 15:20 < g4k> lol that's alright 15:21 < kanzure> yeah laser cutters are fun.. i should convert mine to emc2 :( 15:21 < kanzure> because presently the software sucks 15:21 < g4k> Shapiro makes a big point that you don't need expensive hardware to make a flow cytometer (or flow cytophotometer, or flow flourometer, or flow flourophotometer) 15:21 < kanzure> nah, of course not 15:21 < g4k> do you understand the mechanics of flow cytometers? 15:22 < kanzure> but some people in this community struggle to get $1k to $5k 15:22 < g4k> because I think at this point that's all I ahve to offer :p 15:22 < g4k> oh man, $1000 would be great :) 15:22 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:22 < kanzure> i know the general basis of flow cytometry and passing material by a sampler or optical piece, yeah 15:22 < kanzure> but if you want to rant about it, please go ahead 15:23 < g4k> alright, sweet :) 15:23 < kanzure> maybe describe your particular implementation :) 15:23 < g4k> the coolest part i've learned so far about flow cytometry is how it utilizes laminar flow to separate the stream into individual cells 15:23 < g4k> oh, i don't have an implementation yet 15:23 < kanzure> no plans/concepts? 15:23 < g4k> i just started the book, a few chapters in 15:23 < g4k> i have the drawings he made 15:24 < g4k> I don't know what sorts of available materials are 50um in diameter 15:24 < kanzure> cells; polystyrene beads 15:24 < g4k> lol, i meant tubes 15:25 < g4k> so, like Nathan's post mentions, there is a sample stream and a 'sheath' stream 15:25 < g4k> the 'sheath' is a laminar flow of some inactive liquid, probably saline 15:25 < g4k> the laminarity is very important 15:25 < g4k> when you inject your sample through the hypodermic needle (it doesnt go into skin or anything, it's just really small at the end and easily available, which is why we'd use it) 15:26 < g4k> the sheath fluid flows around it 15:26 < g4k> so you wind up having this water popsicle with a biological gooey center 15:26 < g4k> but the center is dozens of cells wide 15:27 < g4k> you gradually decrease the diameter of the tube leading up to the inspection point 15:27 < g4k> er, observation point 15:27 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ 15:27 -!- kanzure changed the topic of ##hplusroadmap to: http://groups.google.com/group/diybio http://bit.ly/diybionews http://gitduino.com/ http://hplusmagazine.com/ http://gadaprize.org/ 15:27 < g4k> and, because the sheath flow is laminar and doesnt have any currents inside it to push the cells around, it naturally forces the cells into single file 15:27 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by ChanServ 15:27 < g4k> to the diameter of the tube at your observation point 15:28 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ 15:28 < g4k> the _coolest_ part, imo, is after that 15:28 -!- kanzure changed the topic of ##hplusroadmap to: http://groups.google.com/group/diybio http://bit.ly/diybionews http://gitduino.com/ http://hplusmagazine.com/ http://gadaprize.org/ | logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ 15:28 < g4k> and shapiro goes over the gritty mathematics about how the timing sequences go, in the manner of microseconds, where the discharge time of capacitors is actually vitally important 15:29 < g4k> the cells, in their sheath fluid, drip out in individual-cell droplets 15:29 < g4k> the droplets are charged by electric plates, controlled by the information gathered by the electronics at the observation point 15:30 < g4k> and two more plates divert the single-cell-droplets into their respective tubes 15:30 < g4k> and then you get one tube Cancer Cells, one test tube Normal Cells 15:30 <@kanzure> do you have to use different equipment for differently diametered objects? 15:30 < g4k> yes 15:31 <@kanzure> single cell droplets is a really neat idea 15:31 <@kanzure> actually i'm more familiar with single-droplet manipulation via microfluidics 15:31 < g4k> and you need to make sure, somehow, that all of the cells and particles in your sample are smaller than the diamter of the tube 15:31 <@kanzure> http://bio.cc/Bioinformics/papers/microfluidics/ :D 15:31 < g4k> or it will get 'clogged' 15:31 <@kanzure> dbolser: why is bio.cc down? 15:32 < g4k> i see the google cache of it 15:32 < g4k> really, i only got into flow cytometry because i wanted to know what practical uses there were for laminar flow fluids 15:32 < g4k> but its great to see a community :) 15:32 <@kanzure> oh there's tons :) 15:32 <@kanzure> laminar flows are ridiculously useful 15:33 < g4k> its a party trick recently 15:33 < g4k> i heard it first on hackaday 15:33 <@kanzure> huh? what was the hackaday post? 15:34 < g4k> it was just about laminar flow using sponges and straws, not bio 15:35 < g4k> http://hackaday.com/2010/08/22/laminar-water-jet-explained/ 15:38 < joshcryer> Some of us just want to life until entropy takes over. Or beyond that if possible. 15:38 < joshcryer> s/life/live 15:39 < g4k> lol 15:39 < joshcryer> But I think glow in the dark yogurt is a noble goal. 15:39 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:39 < g4k> i always thought that entropy thing was scientists huffing mad that they didnt figure out why the universe is so complex yet 15:40 <@kanzure> it means different things in different contexts :P 15:41 <@kanzure> it has a very particular definition in statistical thermodynamics 15:41 < joshcryer> Eh, if you assume the universe behaves as thermodynamics dictates, then you must assume that it applies everywhere. 15:41 < g4k> joshcryer: i hope, but i can't assume 15:42 < joshcryer> g4k, it'd be nice if somewhere in the universe it didn't apply, or possibly, if somewhere we were able to make it not apply. 15:43 < g4k> lol. is it always so heavy in here? 15:43 < joshcryer> I think if some varient of me makes it until the local cluster coalesces then I did good. :) 15:44 < joshcryer> Oh, sorry, didn't mean to be 'heavy' I did mention yogurt... 15:45 <@kanzure> g4k: nah, sometimes we talk about other stuff.. like longevity/life extension 15:45 <@kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2010-12-11.log 15:45 < joshcryer> Meh, that's for old geezers to worry about. ;) 15:57 <@kanzure> Growth Hormone-Releasing Hormone (GHRH) Antagonist Extends Life of Mice http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/12/02/1016369107.abstract 15:57 * kanzure will get the pdf later 16:32 < delinquentme> WOOT! 16:32 < delinquentme> just emailed william theis and vashnavi ananth ! 16:32 < delinquentme> kanzure, you know about biocoder? 16:33 <@kanzure> yes 16:33 <@kanzure> what did you email them with 16:33 <@kanzure> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/india/projects/biocoder/ 16:34 <@kanzure> their language really sucks 16:34 <@kanzure> their example: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/india/projects/biocoder/tutorial/section4.html 16:34 <@kanzure> it's not even object oriented 16:34 <@kanzure> well, it's partially object oriented 16:35 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:53 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:01 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o jrayhawk] by ChanServ 17:01 < kanzure_> KAAAAAAAA 17:01 < kanzure__> MMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE 17:01 < kanzure___> HHHHAAAAAAAAAAA 17:02 < kanzure____> MEEEEEEE 17:02 <@kanzure> HAAAAAA 17:02 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o jrayhawk] by ChanServ 17:02 -!- kanzure_ [~kanzure@bioinformatics.org] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:02 -!- kanzure__ [~goonie@neuroblastoma.cs.pdx.edu] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:02 -!- kanzure___ [~kanzure@174.137.63.107] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:02 -!- kanzure____ [~kanzure@203.239.28.22] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:04 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by ChanServ 17:12 -!- metafire [~quassel@pD9F8AF1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:19 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- ferrousw1eel [~joel@li159-85.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- bkero_ [~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: niftyzero1, augur, JayDugger, delinquentme 17:32 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: bkero 17:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: augur 17:34 < QuantumG> "water electrolysis also acts as a carbon sink and generates energy." - factor, the stupidest person I know. 17:39 -!- superkuh [hukrepus@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:39 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:41 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-75-194.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:58 < delinquentme> kanzure, ummm i havnt used it TBH 18:01 < delinquentme> Hmmm so im sitting here musing over the thought of my chick going out and getting drunk .. im glad i care less but really it makes me want one thing: WHERE would I need to live if i wanted to surround myself with bio hackers who do this as their lifes PASSION .. like 24/7 they'd go out to the bar for a few hours and at 3 am jump back into the lab and work till they pass out .. there MUST be people like this.... 18:05 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:38 -!- ferrousw1eel is now known as ferrouswheel 18:40 < ferrouswheel> uh, what happened to the original #hplusroadmap - says I need to be invited now? 18:41 < kanzure> another article to fetch: 18:41 < kanzure> Synthetic immunology to engineer human immunity 18:41 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nchembio/journal/v6/n12/full/nchembio.477.html 18:41 < kanzure> ferrouswheel: #hplusroadmap should be redirecting to here now 18:41 < kanzure> ferrouswheel: this channel is registered/official 18:42 < ferrouswheel> aha gotcha 18:46 < kanzure> related company: "adaptive tcr" http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2010/12/13/adaptive-tcr-seeks-to-dominate-new-industry-in-profiling-the-immune-system/ 18:52 -!- kanzure_ [~kanzure@bioinformatics.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:09 -!- klafka [~textual@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-54.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-54.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46 -!- jennifer2 [~jennifer@70-36-134-54.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:55 -!- jennifer2 is now known as mindthestep 20:29 < kanzure> "how my predictions are faring" another ray kurzweil article 20:29 < kanzure> http://c0068172.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/predictions.pdf 20:36 < kanzure> why the hell are there so many comments here? http://www.hplusmagazine.com/editors-blog/enhancement-politics-resistance-domination-not-futile 20:42 < kanzure> in that pdf ray kurzweil sites Telescouter 20:42 < kanzure> http://www.nec.co.jp/solution/telescouter/index.html 20:42 < kanzure> THANK YOU JAPAN. 20:47 < kanzure> but this document is kind of masturbatory.. great you forsaw iphones, now what 20:49 < kanzure> i posted it to HN http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2036575 20:55 -!- epithet [~epitron@unaffiliated/epitron] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:55 -!- epitron [~epitron@ava.ponzo.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:55 -!- epitron [~epitron@ava.ponzo.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:55 -!- epitron [~epitron@unaffiliated/epitron] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 < kanzure> welcome epitron 21:07 < kanzure> mm lists http://scipy.org/Topical_Software 21:57 -!- klafka [~textual@pool-72-88-88-205.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:08 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:12 < joshcryer> I forsaw fucking iPhone almost 15 years ago! 23:14 < joshcryer> Stupid Kurzweil 23:14 < joshcryer> "Computer displays built into eyeglasses are also used. These specialized glasses allow users to see the normal visual environment, while creating a virtual image that appears to hover in front of the viewer. The virtual images are created by a tiny laser built into the glasses that projects the images directly onto the user‟s retinas." 23:14 < joshcryer> He was completely wrong on that. 23:15 < joshcryer> There haven't been virtual glasses improvements. 23:16 < joshcryer> And they're still highly niche. 23:17 < joshcryer> Sorry, this is my one main problem with TAoSM. 23:18 < joshcryer> "Interactive games routinely include all-encompassing visual and auditory environments…" 23:18 < joshcryer> And he keeps freaking spinning that point. 23:18 < joshcryer> "With 3D television introduced in 2009, full-immersion 3D environments for games are coming in full force." 23:18 < joshcryer> Nice definition of "full-immersion," Kurzweil. 23:19 < joshcryer> "The online chat rooms of the late 1990s have been replaced with virtual environments where you can meet people with full visual realism." 23:19 < joshcryer> Replaced. Haha. 23:24 -!- wolfspraul [~wolfsprau@lucia.q-ag.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 -!- mheld [~mheld@pool-173-76-224-45.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mheld] --- Log closed Fri Dec 24 00:00:04 2010