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00:48 < joshcryer> Nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvu9SoCyDec
00:48 < joshcryer> This is so cool.
00:52 < joshcryer> I was raised in a rather hickish town and my accent is terrible.
01:06 < joshcryer> Though maybe if I follow this I might turn out with an Asian accent...
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08:41 < futuresoon> http://makezine.com/tagyourgreen/?id=95 vote to make the global village construction set features at maker fair
08:41 < futuresoon> *featured
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12:00 < kanzure> eric's design catalog for utilihab: http://utilihab.wikia.com/wiki/Utilihab_WikiWiki
12:24 < kanzure> http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2010/12/06/officials-work-this-week-to-advance-wipo-treaty-to-protect-biological-traditional-resources/
12:32 < kanzure> Science, Open Communication and Sustainable Development
12:32 < kanzure> abstract: http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/2/4/993/
12:32 < kanzure> pdf: http://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/2/4/993/pdf
12:41 < kanzure> grr someone needs to whack them with an rss cluestick http://genspace.org/news.html was it feedburner that took divs on a page and broke out an rss feed for you and its periodic updates?
12:42 < kanzure> using eeg for art control http://www.tmplab.org/wiki/index.php/Brain_Computer_Interface
12:49 < kanzure> mathematical lathe work http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/12/math_monday_mathematical_lathe_work_1.html
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13:53 < kanzure> "Science, Law Enforcement Build Biotech Bridges http://www.sciencemag.org/content/330/6012/1766.full#sec-3
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14:29 < kanzure> woefully incomplete http://thecitizensciencequarterly.com/2010/12/23/citizen-scientist-utility-belt-mailing-lists/
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14:32 < kanzure> http://www.meetup.com/Open-Science-Bay-Area/
14:33 < kanzure> "we're not ready for do it yourself genetic analysis" http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2010/10/ready-genetic-analysis.html
14:36 < archels> kanzure: Any opinion on Richard Loosemore?
14:40 < kanzure> i haven't been impressed by him ever :/
14:41 < QuantumG> he's a philosophical wanker
14:42 < QuantumG> ya know, like the vast majority of people who occupy the AGI community
14:43 < kanzure> hi QuantumG
14:43 < QuantumG> hi kanzure
14:44 < archels> Well, we're all arrogant to some degree. ;)
14:45 < QuantumG> it's not arrogance that's the problem.. it's masturbatory pontificating in place of actually making something that works.
14:45 < archels> I saw one of his posts to [singularity] where he mentioned complex/chaotic systems, was pondering mailing him about that just to pick his brain a little.
14:46 < kanzure> people who talk about "chaos theory" often don't know what "chaos theory" actually is.
14:46 < kanzure> just a word of warning.
14:47 < archels> Yes, so I was wondering if he was another nut or someone who knows what he's talking about.
14:47 < kanzure> *shrug* if you can convince him to release his fluorescence microscopy schematics, that might be valuable
14:47 < kanzure> or is that steven .. uh.
14:47 < archels> heh
14:48 < kanzure> there's another loony person on that mailing list who has been hoarding some super secret microscope designs or something
14:48 < kanzure> because it's going to make him a trillionaire, or something
14:50 < archels> Did you see that quenching fluoresence 'scope from that German insitute, er...
14:50 < kanzure> steve richfield
14:50 < archels> at the Max Planck...
14:51 < archels> oh yes, STED microscopy
14:51 < kanzure> no. did you see the halcyon molecular paper on annular dark-field electron microscopy? http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7288/full/nature08879.html
14:51 < kanzure> more: http://halcyonmolecular.com/2010/03/25/halcyon-collaborators-develop-method-for-atom-by-atom-identification-and-analysis/
14:53 < kanzure> personal genomics book (personal genome project, george church, etc.) http://www.amazon.com/Here-Human-Being-Personal-Genomics/dp/0061628336/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_3
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15:49 < kanzure> tmmcabe decided to write a funding proposal for diybio to ray kurzweil (since he works for ray)
15:49 < kanzure> on behalf of humanity+
15:49 < kanzure> and neglected to run it by me?
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16:01 < kanzure> humanity+ @ caltech videos (almost all?) are on yousendit
16:01 < kanzure> http://www.yousendit.com/download/RlRwTXRabWdoeVpjR0E9PQ
16:01 < kanzure> http://www.yousendit.com/download/RlRvek9ncG9sMHhjR0E9PQ
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16:03 < kanzure> until they are uploaded to youtoob or vimeo or whatever, you can find them here too:
16:04 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/
16:04 < kanzure> jrabbit: i'll not keep them there long, so don't fret
16:04 < kanzure> gah. i meant jrayhawk :(
16:05 < kanzure> 20 MB/sec hot damn
16:06 < jrabbit> Huh
16:06 < jrabbit> ah
16:07 < kanzure> :(
16:08 < kanzure> for some reason, transhumanism is just more fun when you read it in russian
16:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/%d0%98%d0%bd%d0%b6%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%b5%d1%80%d0%b8%d1%8f%20%d0%be%d1%80%d0%b3%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%20%d0%b8%20%d1%82%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b5%d0%b9%20-%20%d1%81%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%be%d1%8f%d0%bd%d0%b8%d0%b5%20%d0%b8%20%d0%bf%d0%b5%d1%80%d1%81%d0%bf%d0%b5%d0%ba%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%b2%d1%8b.ppt
16:09 < kanzure> better? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/Инженерия%20органов%20и%20тканей%20-%20состояние%20и%20перспективы.ppt
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16:34 < jrabbit> lol
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16:38 < jrayhawk> Nah, you can keep them there long, that's fine
16:39 < jrayhawk> Let me know if you want help converting them to ogv/mp4/wmv so they can be embedded in browsers.
16:44 < kanzure> humanityplus will be uploading them to youtube apparently
16:44 < QuantumG> it's good PR
16:44 < kanzure> jrayhawk: what format should i use if i was to keep those around
16:46 < jrayhawk> mp4 is what people who care about size/quality tradeoffs use, ogv is what libre activists use
16:46 < jrayhawk> microsoft jerkoffs use wmv, google jerkoffs use webm
16:47 < jrayhawk> I've had problems with lavc and theora, so
16:47 < QuantumG> warez d00ds use avi
16:47 < jrayhawk> gstreamer might be a better choice for encoding to ogv
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16:51 < QuantumG> streaming Gs?  I prefer something more discrete.
16:53 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#Table
16:53 < kanzure> they should just use emc2 http://wiki.protospace.nl/index.php/OpensourceLasercutterdriver
16:53 < kanzure> jrayhawk: which one of those people am i
16:54 < jrayhawk> you convert to mp4 and ogv and use nested object fallback
16:54 < jrayhawk> with ogv being first choice because you care, but mp4 being available because you're not a dick about it
16:55 < kanzure> when i convert stuff with ffmpeg, i always bloat up the files massively
16:55 < kanzure> i note however that these are already multiple gigabytes so i can't possibly fail right?
16:55 < jrayhawk> i certainly doubt it
16:55 < jrayhawk> but, like i said, lavc has a lot of problems with theora
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16:56 < jrayhawk> so you probably want to use gstreamer for that
16:56 < kanzure> okay. let me fix the filenames and then bug you about maybe a good script for converting these
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17:04 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/
17:04 < kanzure> there.
17:05 < kanzure> now the filenames don't make me cry as much
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17:16 < Lukas_> Hello
17:16 < kanzure> howdy Lukas_
17:16 < kanzure> welcome
17:16 < Lukas_> Looks like I've finally gotten around to joining the chatroom
17:16 < kanzure> jrayhawk: since these will be on youtube, i think ogv is fine (i.e. for people who also care)
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17:19 < Lukas_> Hello there
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17:27 < jrayhawk> Ugh. I usually wind up using oggconvert for this because entrans and gst-launch both manage to be even more painful than mencoder
17:28 < jrayhawk> i guess if you forward an x socket...
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17:36 < Lukas_> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/space-manufacturing-14
17:36 < Lukas_> Craig Venter at a NASA conference
17:37 < Lukas_> a talk on the use of Synthetic Biology for helping humans out in space
17:38 < Lukas_> he also speaks about using Genetically modified or synthetic bacterial symbiotic organisms
17:38 < kanzure> space-manufacturing-14 was actually by the Space Studies Institute
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17:39 < Lukas_> Thanks for the correction
17:39 < kanzure> http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/
17:39 < kanzure> they recently uploaded their videos i think?
17:39 < Lukas_> Yes
17:39 < Lukas_> very recently
17:40 < kanzure> ah here we go:
17:40 < kanzure> http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/
17:40 < kanzure> er
17:40 < kanzure> http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
17:41 < kanzure> oh cool dietzler was there
17:42 < kanzure> i thought he was a total hermit
17:42 < Lukas_> xD
17:44 < Lukas_> I just read your post on the next possible X-Prize
17:45 < Lukas_> how did you come upon this information?
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17:49 < kanzure> Lukas_: hm? which post
17:50 < Lukas_> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.ecofriendlymag.com/sustainable-transporation-and-alternative-fuel/x-prize-foundation-aims-to-launch-100m-in-prizes-over-next-10-years-targeting-4-key-areas/&usg=AFQjCNERe3TBrYern74mSbntKy70Nj7HEg
17:52 < kanzure> i probably got an email from xprize.org
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17:52 < Lukas_> ah
17:53 < Lukas_> I see no mention of anything Human 2.0 on the X-Prize website, though
17:53 < Lukas_> http://www.xprize.org/future-x-prizes
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17:54 < kanzure> yeah it looks like they deleted that PR item
17:54 < Lukas_> Figured
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17:54 < Lukas_> Anything transhuman is a major PR issue
17:55 < QuantumG> lucky kanzure is here.. he loves PR ;)
17:55 < Lukas_> X-Prize money going to DIYh+ would be amazing though
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17:57 < kanzure> hi JayDugger
17:58 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
17:58 < Lukas_> Good evening
17:58 < JayDugger> Just troubleshooting a client problem, so I will pop in and out for sometime.
17:59 < jrayhawk> If you do decide to forward an X socket to your vserver, you might need to install xbase-clients on your local machine and restart your x session to get xauth stuff working
17:59 < jrayhawk> and then ssh -X
18:03 < Lukas_> I suspect that any open development of H+ technology will result in a pretty hefty backlash - the best course of action is to move ahead IMO
18:05 < kanzure> jrayhawk: huh? why would i use x-anything on gnusha?
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18:10 < jrayhawk> So you can transcode those videos using tools that don't take a ten house to learn
18:10 < jrayhawk> don't take ten hours
18:10 < jrayhawk> me no type good
18:11 < kanzure> you overlook my keeeeeyybbboooarrrdddd malfunctions and we'll call it even
18:11 < jrayhawk> never
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18:28 < Lukas_> http://www.jove.com/
18:28 < Lukas_> Not entirely sure how useful the website would be to you guys
18:28 < Lukas_> but I thought I would post it
18:29 < kanzure> yes we know about jove :)
18:29 < kanzure> actually if you need to contact them..
18:29 < kanzure> Nikita Bernstein <nikita.bernstein@jove.com>
18:29 < kanzure> Moshe Pritsker <moshe.pritsker@jove.com>
18:31 < Lukas_> Kanzure, you never cease to amaze me
18:31 < Lukas_> heh
18:31 < Lukas_> thanks
18:37 < Lukas_> going to bed
18:37 < Lukas_> take care
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19:44 < kanzure> tom wants ray kurzweil to buy me a dna synthesizer?
19:52 < kanzure> if ray has money, i could think of some better stuff
19:53 < kanzure> trans-tech.yaml could be spiced up i guess
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20:26 < fenn> handbrake-cli doesn't need X
20:26 < fenn> if you decide to use mp4 (I would)
20:27 < fenn> time HandBrakeCLI -O -e x264 -i cat.avi -o cat.mp4
20:28 < fenn> looks ok with low bitrate too
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20:45 < kanzure> fenn: did you read tim's email or his comments last night
20:45 < kanzure> (in here)
20:49 < kanzure> fenn: also i do intend to ship the hard drive within the next day or so
20:50 < timschmidt> fenn: I'm pestering you!
20:51 < timschmidt> get out here and fight me like a man!
20:51 < timschmidt> :P
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20:56 < futuresoon> http://makezine.com/tagyourgreen/?id=95 <--- vote for the awesomeness
20:56 < timschmidt> voted
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21:04 < timschmidt> feeeeeeeeeenn...  fenn!  bryan has ordered me to pester you
21:04 < kanzure> fenn: pester pester
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