--- Log opened Mon Jan 03 00:00:05 2011
00:06 < joshcryer> Fortunately we invented a cotton stripper at the height of slavery and technology is really what freed them (OK, and a nasty Civil War probably made it happen sooner, but still).
00:06 < kanzure> skydiving. i should go skydiving.
00:06 < joshcryer> AlonzoTG, my ultimate goal is to make memristor crossbars and train them to have some sort of intelligence.
00:07 < joshcryer> kanzure, highly recommended.
00:07 < kanzure> $169/jump? wtf
00:07 < kanzure> man i'm old
00:07 < kanzure> 662 million seconds?
00:07 < joshcryer> This is why I did BASE for awhile there. I don't do it anymore because I have mortality fears since almost being shot to death.
00:08 < joshcryer> The whole skydiving industry is repleat with for-profit motives, and safety is sometimes forgotten. The industry is self-aware so I wouldn't say it's unsafe, but startups should be avoided.
00:11 < joshcryer> kanzure, fuckkk, I just passed a billion seconds.
00:12 < joshcryer> Oh, no, that happened 5 years ago, that's even more depressing.
00:13 < joshcryer> To be more precise, 3 years 2 months ago.
00:17 < fenn> "where did you get the idea for patent-free zones from?" probably first came up in thinking about what to do with iceland after the bank scandal
00:17 < kanzure> 55 million liters of blood pumped
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00:28 < kanzure> JayDugger suggests i buy dynamite for #21
00:28 < kanzure> andrew hessel suggests skydiving
00:28 < kanzure> wheels suggests getting slammed beyond all comprehension
00:28 < kanzure> (or going to vegas)
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00:28 < delinquentme> kanzure, offhand have you heard of any individuals of note (with regards to manipulating software for these machines ) at either University of pittsburgh or carnegie mellon?
00:29 < delinquentme> kanzure, i say save your brain cells :D
00:29 < kanzure> carnegie mellon? try hod lipson's group just because it'll be fun
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00:29 < delinquentme> PERSONALLY if i was gonna do 21 over again .. id say get nice wine and a classy hooker
00:29 < delinquentme> blow ?
00:29 < delinquentme> ha!
00:31 < delinquentme> OHHH and i saw these Awesome ABB delta sorting robots
00:31 < delinquentme> accelerate at 10gs .. to like 180 mph in 1 sec
00:31 < delinquentme> awesome
00:32 < joshcryer> I vote for the classy hooker thing.
00:32 < joshcryer> If you know anyone.
00:32 < joshcryer> Fun times.
00:32 < joshcryer> (not that I ever did that)
00:32 < delinquentme> ^^
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00:33 < delinquentme> skydiving is cool too
00:33 < delinquentme> but the question is " what is it worth living for "
00:33 < |James|> what is this channel about? hmmm
00:33 < delinquentme> skydiving is up there
00:33 < joshcryer> Transhumanism, or more generally, improving humanity.
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00:34 < joshcryer> delinquentme, better chances dying walking down the street ittinit?
00:34 < delinquentme> |James|, there you go .. and each of us has their own reasons for wanting to live
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00:34 < delinquentme> statistically.. driving i checked
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00:34 < delinquentme> absolutely
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00:35 < |James|> i see
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00:35 < delinquentme> |James|, and i dont question why youd choose to live longer.. just that im glad i've got someone else who WANTs to :D
00:36 < delinquentme> kanzure, it seems hod is at cornell?
00:36 <@kanzure> cornell.. carnegie mellon.. same thing? :)
00:37 < delinquentme> haha close ish :D
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00:38 < delinquentme> http://www.mae.cornell.edu/lipson/
00:38 < delinquentme> hes got a really sweet looking robot on his homepage .. but it doesnt seem to want to play?
00:38 < kanzure> this is a good overview of what he used to be up to
00:38 < kanzure> http://www.demo.cs.brandeis.edu/golem/
00:39 < kanzure> he's still doing related stuff.
00:39 < kanzure> you should watch the movie at the bottom of the page
00:39 < kanzure> http://www.demo.cs.brandeis.edu/golem/download.html
00:39 < kanzure> 12MB low quality http://www.demo.cs.brandeis.edu/golem/download/golem160x90.avi
00:48 < delinquentme> interesting
00:52 < delinquentme> kanzure, thanks again so much :D ill talk to you!
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00:52 < kanzure> what is it with you people and not idling
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00:57 < fenn> did you incur the wrath of 4chan?
00:58 < kanzure> hm?
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00:58 < kanzure> no that's flamoot
00:59 < kanzure> you actually get an auto-ban on 4chan for mentioning 'flamoot' because everyone hates him there or something
01:02 < kanzure> max moar?
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01:10 < delinquentme> kanzure, :D im back real quick .. did i post that email to the DIY bio group correctly?
01:12 < kanzure> that was socal-diybio only
01:12 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/diybio
01:12 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/socal-diybio
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01:14 < delinquentme> ok yeah i saw the social part .. wasnt sure if that was the designation for the BIG ovearching diybio .. i guess its for the fun activities ?
01:15 < delinquentme> and should i repost it?
01:19 < fenn> socal = southern california
01:24 < joshcryer> Who was hard2drink?
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02:29 < phryk> kanzure: Did you want anything specific yesterday?
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04:15 < Utopiah> command line video download tool http://clive.sourceforge.net/
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05:11 < Lukas_> Top of the morning
05:20 < Utopiah> some 27C3 videos available http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2010/
05:26 < Lukas_> Which one has lepht speaking?
05:30 < Utopiah> I guess http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/27C3/mp4-h264-HQ/27c3-4003-en-cybernetics_for_the_masses.mp4.torrent
05:33 < Lukas_> thanks
05:37 < Utopiah> Lukas_: np, btw if you are really interested in such videos and Google Tech Talk you can use their RSS feeds to stay up to date
05:39 < Lukas_> thank you
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06:50 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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07:37 < kanzure> Utopiah: the direct link is:
07:37 < kanzure> wget -qO- http://c3.ex23.de/saal2-2010-12-30_11-21-43.wmv | ffmpeg -i pipe: cybernetics_for_the_masses1.mp4
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07:37 < kanzure> wget -qO- http://c3.ex23.de/saal2-2010-12-30_13-37-07.wmv | ffmpeg -i pipe: cybernetics_for_the_masses2.mp4
07:37 < kanzure> oh wait that's not a link.
07:40 < Lukas_> Morning
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09:30 < delinquentme> Hey all ! does anyone have a SIMPLE solution to get IE 8 + 9 on an ubuntu machine?
09:30 < kanzure> vmware + windows
09:31 < Utopiah> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
09:32 < Utopiah>  or http://www.browserling.com/
09:33 < kanzure> heh this suggests svn http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Collaborative_Writing_of_LaTeX_Documents
09:34 < kanzure> oh i bet there's a latex plugin for ikiwiki.. that's actually an ideal solution
09:34 < kanzure> http://ikiwiki.info/todo/latex/
09:35 < kanzure> i think latex->html for ikiwiki rendering would work, esp. since latex2pdf stuff can be used later
09:35 < kanzure> ok that makes me very happy :)
09:43 < kanzure> heh jcvi uses svn
09:44 < kanzure> that's probably a disaster
09:44 < kanzure> don't they employ biologists?
09:48 < Lukas_> ?
09:52 < delinquentme> Utopiah, thanks for the suggestions haha i just kinda spaced and assumed kanzure said that :D
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12:41 < flamots> http://groups.google.com/group/flamoots-group/files << annscan
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12:44 < archels> hi flamots!
12:45 < archels> lol @ audio.mp3 in that folder
12:46 <@kanzure> see pm
12:46 < jrayhawk> there's also http://ikiwiki.info/ikiwiki/directive/teximg/
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12:48 < archels> flamots: So what is an "evolving neural network scanner"?
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12:48 < archels> too late :(
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12:49 < kanzure> i feel empty now :(
12:50 < archels> What's the point of being an op if you don't get that adrenalin rush when you ban someone?
12:52 < jrayhawk> such violence
12:52 < kanzure> http://www.dipity.com/TeamTeamUSA/2010-The-Year-In-DIY-3D-Printing/
12:52 < kanzure> http://www.dipity.com/TeamTeamUSA/3D-Printing-in-2010/
12:52 < jrayhawk> he seemed like he was getting less insane rather than more
12:52 < kanzure> i don't want to provoke him
12:53 < kanzure> maybe i should have just muted him.
12:53 < kanzure> though the ban is only for 'root'-- hopefully he'll stop ircing as root :/
12:53 < jrayhawk> Sometimes that's a default IRC clients choose in order to avoid disclosing useful information.
12:54 < archels> kanzure: Either that or epic, epic troll.
12:54 < jrayhawk> epic in what sense
12:55 < archels> encyclopediadramatica.com/epic
12:56 < jrayhawk> ah, in the "not at all" sense. 4chan is very postmodern.
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12:58 < flamots> leave it alone
12:58 < flamots> it solves the problem
12:59 < flamots> they have to construct ip addresses, port words and probe strings
12:59 < flamots> that get the maximal reply from an open service
12:59 < flamots> within a specified ip range
12:59 < flamots> you just have to crunch the numbers
12:59 < flamots> well its a toy
12:59 < Utopiah> Global Village Construction Set (GVCS) http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/10/global-village-construction-set-gvcs-in-2-minutes/ #OSE
12:59 < archels> Leave it alone? Who is it?
12:59 < flamots> brb
13:00 < kanzure> Utopiah: marcin will be giving a TED talk in february :)
13:00 < archels> kanzure: I think you missed the tilde in ~root
13:02 < superkuh> GVCS reminds me of Fallout's GECK.
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13:26 < QuantumG> what's the url to subscribe to the nanoengineer-1 mailing list again?
13:26 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev
13:27 < kanzure> hi industromatic
13:27 < QuantumG> thanks
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13:49 < kanzure> parijata is now hiring lab slaves for acron cell
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14:35 < Utopiah> http://thesciencenetwork.org/programs/12th-eeglab-workshop/12th-eeglab-workshop-mining-event-related-brain-dynamics-i-part-1
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14:41 < kanzure> an imposter!
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14:59 < Lukas_> Is Kanzure around?
14:59 < AlonzoTG> om
15:00 < kanzure> no
15:01 < Lukas_> -_-
15:02 < Lukas_> Where is Bio curious based out of?
15:04 < kanzure> palo alto or mountain view, california
15:04 < kanzure> that general area
15:04 < Lukas_> grr
15:04 < Lukas_> The west coast needs to be nerfed
15:05 < Lukas_> there is no balance at all
15:05 < Lukas_> QQ
15:05 < kanzure> balance?
15:05 < Lukas_> joking
15:06 < Lukas_> I suppose I could work at Genspace
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15:52 < AlonzoTG> om
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16:11 < kanzure> hi timschmidt
16:12 < joshcryer> Thanks Utopiah, for the torrent.
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16:14 < joshcryer> heh I'll have it in 3 mins? nicely seeded
16:15 < timschmidt> howdy
16:16 < timschmidt> kanzure: as of tonight, I'm officially a member of the "Core RepRap Developer" cabal
16:16 < joshcryer> You dirty dirty man.
16:16 < timschmidt> lol
16:17 < timschmidt> be back in a minute.  Mario Kart with the girlfriend.
16:18 < joshcryer> Official: Core RepRap Developer slacking off.
16:21 < joshcryer> Lepht is sooooooooooo nervous.
16:21 < joshcryer> Props to her for doing that.
16:21 < joshcryer> Will watch it later.
16:22 < joshcryer> this aint transhumanism though >:/ *mean purity argument*
16:23 < joshcryer> kanzure, I don't think you have to worry about Lepht getting too much media attention she probably doesn't want it. You don't go up in front of a lot of people shaking nervous if you want attention, heh.
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16:31 < kanzure> where are my beta testers?
16:31 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/aubrey-de-grey-in-pursuit-of-longevity
16:31 < kanzure> it's a video aggregator for h+ related videos
16:33 < kanzure> front page: http://diyhpl.us:9000/
16:33 < kanzure> please tell me about any errors, bugs, or whatever
16:36 < kanzure> joshcryer: ping
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16:44 < jrayhawk> re: media attention: her biological response during the risk-taking is less important than her biological response after the risk-taking
16:45 < jrayhawk> specifically some people get dopamine reactions for surviving or excelling in some risky situations
16:45 < jrayhawk> even if they're miserable during those situations
16:50 < kanzure> why did :9000 suddenly get so slow :(
16:51 < kanzure> it can't even handle two simultaneous users? gee
16:56 < joshcryer> Hi
16:56 < joshcryer> I have to sleep.
16:56 < kanzure> timschmidt: ping?
16:56 < joshcryer> I see no errors.
16:56 < kanzure> Lukas_: how about you
16:56 < joshcryer> lol kanzure
16:57 < Lukas_> Sorry, wasn't paying attention
16:57 < joshcryer> Of course, I am assuming that DBZ and ... Conan? are not errors.
16:57 < kanzure> Lukas_: you're a beta tester now. http://diyhpl.us:9000/
16:57 < Lukas_> xD
16:57 < Lukas_> sure
16:57 < Lukas_> grr Kurtzweil
16:58 < joshcryer> Kurzweil is like the Nerd Rapture Jesus.
16:58 < joshcryer> Do not mock!
16:58 < Lukas_> Nothing is sacred
16:59 < joshcryer> I will have to watch that Future of 3D Printing video later, 50 mins.
16:59 < Lukas_> Get some of Drew Endy's videos
16:59 < Lukas_> or Andrew Hassel
16:59 < joshcryer> Kurzweil's videos are so inspiring sounding.
17:00 < Lukas_> Inspiring does nothing for practicality
17:00 < kanzure> gah why is it locking up already
17:00 < joshcryer> It's working here fine.
17:00 < joshcryer> Oh. It is slower.
17:01 < Lukas_> nothing seems wrong
17:01 < Lukas_> everything is buffering just fine
17:01 < joshcryer> Heh, no the diyhpl.us site, it stalled a second there, now it works.
17:02 < kanzure> more videos added to the front page
17:02 < kanzure> you can also submit (see top-right)
17:02 < joshcryer> I noticed.
17:02 < joshcryer> Oh snap even more added.
17:03 < Lukas_> yay!
17:03  * joshcryer sleeps
17:04 < Lukas_> this is amazing
17:04 < Lukas_> though I can see it getting hectic
17:04 < Lukas_> Perhaps you can organize the videos by 'author'?
17:04  * kanzure nods
17:04 < kanzure> sure
17:05 < kanzure> also tags.
17:05 < Lukas_> yup
17:08 < Lukas_> grr, more Kurtzweil
17:15 < Lukas_> How long did it take you to make this?
17:15 < kanzure> since new years
17:15 < kanzure> kinda embarrassing, i know.
17:17 < superkuh> Is it only for youtube video?
17:17 < Lukas_> O_o
17:17 < Lukas_> wow
17:17 < kanzure> superkuh: no
17:17 < Lukas_> I like it, the only issue is organization
17:17 < kanzure> superkuh: if you figure out a link submission that doesn't work i'll fix it.
17:17 < superkuh> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11129913
17:17 < superkuh> That doesn't. It errors and gives debug info.
17:18 < kanzure> grr
17:18 < kanzure> ok. i'll work on that :)
17:19 < Lukas_> Thank you
17:21 < Lukas_> What exactly is the website for? ( practical stuff on diyH+, or is it a general transhumanism video collection site?)
17:21 < kanzure> both
17:21 < kanzure> i'm confident that nobody is able to keep track of all of these videos
17:21 < kanzure> what i'd like to see happen is people commenting on the videos as they watch them
17:22 < Lukas_> like an irc channel?
17:22 < kanzure> there's also an unexposed-to-the-user ability to upvote/downvote comments and submissions so that there can be some quality control
17:23 < Lukas_> that is good
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17:28 < kanzure> how can i incentivize discussions?
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17:28 < kanzure> hi klafka1
17:30 < Lukas_> Discussions will happen naturally
17:30 < Lukas_> the video itself will start them
17:34 < kanzure> hm i should make comments work without having to reload pages while you're watching the video.
17:36 < Lukas_> If that can be done, that would be superb
17:39 < timschmidt> kanzure: pong
17:40 < kanzure> test it test it
17:41 < timschmidt> ?
17:41 < timschmidt> Ah, I see the url
17:42 < timschmidt> seems to work here
17:42 < kanzure> if you have anything to submit (especially reprap stuff) that would be good
17:43 < timschmidt> ok, nothing with my at the moment, but I have a few videos at home
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17:51 < klafka1> hey
17:55 < Lukas_> reprap?
17:58 < mjr> it's one of the el-cheapo 3d printers
17:58 < mjr> replicating rapid prototyper
18:00 < Lukas_> ah
18:00 < Lukas_> thanks
18:03 < kanzure> http://reprap.org/
18:04 < Lukas_> who is selling and how much?
18:04 < ybit> i'm really digging the diyhpl.us concept :)
18:04 < ybit> so many ways you can take this site
18:04 < Lukas_> It is an excellent site
18:04 < ybit> adding a social element to video sharing is nice too
18:05 < mjr> apparently you can take it as a "fuck you" too
18:05 < ybit> but i don't know how i cna add smart-sounding comments to a video of arnold flexing on a hillside :)
18:05 < Lukas_> XD
18:05 < kanzure> yeah i'll probably remove a lot of these videos actually
18:06 < kanzure> submission needs to be slower
18:06 < kanzure> so that people can watch and comment
18:06 < ybit> i don't think that everyone will be able to or care to watch each video uploaded
18:07 < Lukas_> ^^  agreed
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18:10 < kanzure> ybit: so what do i do then
18:11 < ybit> i suppose it's your site, could do what you want with it.
18:11 < kanzure> no i mean, how do i get you to comment on one of these
18:11 < Lukas_> I am unsure whether fluid conversation is possible in all of the videos
18:12 < kanzure> i think it is.
18:12 < kanzure> i..e, i bet if you watched the ed boyden video you'd have a shitload of questions
18:12 < kanzure> or ideas.
18:12 < Lukas_> ah
18:12 < Lukas_> I see what you are getting at
18:13 < kanzure> p1 http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/ed-boyden-part-1-2010-allen-institute-for-brain-science-symposium
18:13 < kanzure> p2 http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/ed-boyden-part-2-2010-allen-institute-for-brain-science-symposium
18:13 < Lukas_> still though, how would you make it so that I could get an answer in a reasonable amount of time?
18:13 < ybit> you have a problem where you don't want just anyone comenting, which requires people to login using some service. people aren't going to login to comment unless they feel they have something to share that needs to be shared. not everyone is going to feel this way, i think, so... full-circle to not knowing
18:14 < kanzure> Lukas_: that's why i'm thinking i should limit submissions at first
18:14 < kanzure> so that people have time to watch it and go over it
18:14 < ybit> a few things...
18:14 < ybit> you could make an attractive UI and have a DIY-H+ video of the day
18:14 < ybit> people might subscribe to that and comment like people do with TED videos
18:16 < kanzure> i think it could work as a news site
18:16 < kanzure> the problem is that there's a huge backlog of excellent videos
18:16 < kanzure> so i could let some of them show up every once in a while
18:16 < ybit> i was about to suggest moving the comment box to the right of the video and/or making it easier to login by using something like facebook, twitter, identica, diaspora api
18:16 < kanzure> jquery/javascript-based commenting so it doesn't interrupt your viewing experience..
18:17 < Lukas_> I like the DIY-H+ of the day
18:18 < Lukas_> perhaps it could be done with shorter periods
18:18 < Lukas_> but the general idea is solid
18:18 < Lukas_> IMO
18:18  * ybit considers purchasing http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822242029&cm_re=1.5tb-_-22-242-029-_-Product
18:19 < kanzure> Lukas_: you might like this one http://diyhpl.us:9000/s/andrew-hessel-introduction-to-synthetic-biology
18:20 < Lukas_> Thanks
18:20 < Lukas_> I've seen that one
18:24 < Lukas_> Lukas D. logging out
18:24 < Lukas_> take care
18:25 < Lukas_> Kanzure, good luck with your website
18:25 < Lukas_> excellent idea
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18:26 < AlonzoTG> om
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18:39 < jrayhawk> ybit: seems like you should just buy the enclosure and then buy a *good* drive
18:40 < jrayhawk> I'll bet ten dollars that one comes with a Deskstar.
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18:48 < delinquentme> WOOOOTTT
18:48 < delinquentme> coffee shot and IRC channels
18:48 < delinquentme> <3 home <3
18:48 < delinquentme> shop!
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19:11 < delinquentme> ahem,
19:11 < delinquentme> kanzure,
19:11 < delinquentme> everyone else
19:11 < delinquentme> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/evkwy/what_are_some_lifehacks_youd_never_admit_to/c1bb70v
19:11 < delinquentme> ^^ why hackers win.
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20:04 < AlonzoTG> om
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22:56 < kanzure> delinquentme: i did something like that, except for hiring someone via okcupid
22:57 < kanzure> since it has some reasonable ability to let you fin tune desired personality traits
23:04 < kanzure> oh man this is addicting. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ekd1o/iam_my_own_okcupid_wingman_i_have_a_fake_profile/
23:04 < kanzure> apparently reddit writes good seinfeld episodes?
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