--- Log opened Fri Jan 28 00:00:10 2011 00:08 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:50 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:55 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:01 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:05 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:34 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:37 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:41 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-247-186.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:54 -!- Lukas_ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:44 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-90-33.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:45 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-95-169.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:51 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:06 < kanzure> http://files.minthos.com/space/Markusic%20-%20SpaceX%20Propulsion%20small.pdf 04:07 < CryptoQuick> heh, that's a little old, Kanz :) 04:09 < kanzure> http://webgl.pythonocc.org/ 04:09 < kanzure> demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GXbfzWV8qk 04:10 < CryptoQuick> sweet! 04:10 < CryptoQuick> I got Chrome dev, so it works fine :) 04:33 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:34 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:20 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:41 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: CryptoQuick] 06:45 < Utopiah> eeg and rat decapitation http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016514 06:46 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.0.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:10 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 -!- alystair [Alystair@76.68.122.199] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:44 -!- Lukas_ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:57 -!- Director_X [432affb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.42.255.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:57 < Director_X> good morning all. 07:58 < Director_X> does anyone know if fiber optic lines are bio-safe? 08:02 < Director_X> ...like bare fibers under the skin? Or would they require a coat of other bio-proofing like silicone? 08:07 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:09 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:23 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:43 -!- g4k is now known as Vaevictae 08:45 < kanzure> poor countries urged to get ready for synthetic biology http://www.scidev.net/en/news/poor-countries-urged-to-get-ready-for-synthetic-biology-1.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=en_news&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter 08:45 < kanzure> blah 08:45 < kanzure> http://www.scidev.net/en/news/poor-countries-urged-to-get-ready-for-synthetic-biology-1.html 08:46 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 < kanzure> $1300 assembled 3d printer http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2011/1/6/the-botmill-glider.html 08:48 < kanzure> http://botmill.com/3D-Printers/BotMill-Glider-3-0/prod_94.html 08:48 < kanzure> awful name though for an extruder.. 08:48 < kanzure> "BotMill Glider 3.0 is based on the RepRap project" 08:49 < kanzure> "This printer is based on the RepRap Mendel which can be found here: http://reprap.org/wiki/Mendel" 08:49 < kanzure> gpl violation in progress? i don't see any indication that they ship with schematics or nothin' 08:50 -!- Director_X [432affb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.42.255.177] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:58 < jebba> kanzure, i've had that glider on order for a couple+ weeks now. 08:59 < jebba> kanzure if i get it and i see violations i will press them (legally if needed). 09:05 < kanzure> yay 09:07 < kanzure> haha my university is organizing viewing parties for the jeopardy/ibm episode 09:08 < kanzure> interesting that they are planning for a full 3 day event so confidently 09:08 < kanzure> kurzweil's movie can now be purchased here: http://www.transcendentman.com/ 09:08 < kanzure> i'd wait for the torrent, though 09:18 < kanzure> hrm this might be hackable 09:18 < kanzure> http://cdn.topspin.net/secure/media/serve_by_sku/200731/stream/e7900df7.f4v?e=1296321516&authkey=1296321516_1b44eb238c32c2c9dcf99c033ec2a636 09:18 < kanzure> is the structure of their streamable media links 09:46 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@DSLPool-net209-116.wctc.net] has quit [Quit: Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is.] 10:15 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 10:16 -!- Vaevictae is now known as g4k 10:25 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-23-119-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:38 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 -!- alystair [Alystair@76.68.122.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49 -!- l1chen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:49 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 < Lukas___> Good afternoon 10:57 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- thesnark [~Snark@snark.ni.utoledo.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- l1chen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 < kanzure> git clone git://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git 11:06 < kanzure> git push git+ssh://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git 11:06 < kanzure> see results here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/ 11:06 < kanzure> obviously this works best if you have an account on diyhpl.us/gnusha/gitduino 11:08 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:29 < kanzure> video about "the hackerspace movement" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wamwklXWK4M 11:36 < kanzure> in case it wasn't obvious, i need some testers for openscad/git integration above.. 11:36 < kanzure> timschmidt seems offline. anyone else? 11:39 < thesnark> No idea what that is. What does testing involve? 11:40 < kanzure> using git to pull, commit and push 11:40 < kanzure> copying an openscad .scad file from the internet or writing your own 11:40 < thesnark> So I can commit garbage? 11:40 < kanzure> no, committing .scad files is preferred 11:40 < thesnark> give me a file to test with and I'll pull, commit and push for you 11:40 < kanzure> the idea is that it renders an image in the end 11:40 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/305fce14356203666ebffe6141630bd2b8f240c3/dremelfuge-v4.scad-72422eca27.png 11:41 < kanzure> hm i guess there's .scad files here https://github.com/elmom/MCAD 11:42 < thesnark> ok, where do I clone the repo from? Your clone line above? git clone git://gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git? 11:43 < kanzure> yes 11:44 < thesnark> erm do I need to give you a key or something 11:44 < kanzure> no. try just thesnark@gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git as the clone url 11:45 < thesnark> fatal: Could not switch to 'thesnark@gitduino.com/gitduino/git/kanzure': No such file or directory 11:45 < kanzure> try git+ssh:// 11:46 < thesnark> cloned 11:46 < thesnark> step 2 11:46 < kanzure> edit the .scad file and commit the changes, or add other scad files of your choice 11:47 < kanzure> like from https://github.com/elmom/MCAD i guess 11:47 < kanzure> unless you're a .scad-writing pro 11:47 < thesnark> never even heard of scad 11:47 < kanzure> http://openscad.org/ 11:48 < thesnark> added and pushed math.scad 11:48 < kanzure> lol i don't think you get it 11:49 < kanzure> what possible 3D model would math.scad have? it sounds like an include file to me 11:49 < thesnark> I must not 11:49 < kanzure> and you pushed? 11:49 < thesnark> I thought I just needed to push any scad file 11:49 < thesnark> yes 11:49 < thesnark> check pm 11:50 < kanzure> realpath not found? what the fuck 11:50 < kanzure> why does realpath work for the user 'bryan' but not 'thesnark'? 11:54 < jebba> kanzure You read Carroll's Hunting of the Snark? :) 11:54 < kanzure> no? 11:56 < jebba> Lewis Carroll. Very good. I like it better than alice even ;) 12:14 < kanzure> oh. realpath doesn't work because post-receive was running as 'thesnark' 12:14 < thesnark> jebba ;) 12:14 < thesnark> His best story imo 12:15 < thesnark> I will try again kanzure 12:15 < kanzure> no don't try again.. it's still broken 12:15 < thesnark> Ok 12:55 < fenn> damn, somehow i totally missed photonics west 13:10 < kanzure> fenn: will you try my openscad commit hooks? (see above instructions) 13:11 < kanzure> should be different for you since you're a full user, not a pinyshell user on gnusha 13:19 < fenn> error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects 13:26 < mjr> Fuck yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbbPStfWw (kinda spoils the ending, if you care about that sort of thing with this sort of movie; stop around when there's the rollerskate chase after demagnetization to avoid final solutions if you wish.) 13:34 < Lukas___> xD 13:34 < Lukas___> what is this? 13:38 < kanzure> fenn: fixed. i forgot to give you access to that repo 13:40 < mjr> a recent Indian film 13:41 -!- thesnark [~Snark@snark.ni.utoledo.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44 < fenn> remote: mkdir: cannot create directory `/gitduino/data/kanzure/dremelfuge/30a206b03fbe9d0f2c8f44a6ba5824dca5415da3': Permission denied 13:44 < fenn> remote: cp: cannot create regular file `./axes_macro.inc': Permission denied 13:45 < fenn> remote: povray: cannot open the user configuration file /home/fenn/.povray/3.6/povray.conf: No such file or directory 13:45 < kanzure> lovely 13:45 < kanzure> try again 13:45 < fenn> it sure prints a lot of crap.. can you turn on some --quiet flags for pov-ray? 13:46 < kanzure> yes but when i'm done post-receive won't be directly calling povray anyway 13:46 < kanzure> (fork a process) 13:47 < kanzure> hrm povray does not seem to have anything but a verbosity level.. maybe it goes negative/zero 13:48 < fenn> best would be to tee into some error log 13:48 < fenn> er, redirect 13:48 * fenn waits for openscad... 13:48 < kanzure> takes forever (where forever=a minute) 13:49 < kanzure> i have no idea why it takes so long.. probably all the qt4-related bullshit 13:50 < kanzure> are you c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8? 13:50 < fenn> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8/dremelfuge-v4.scad-86dccc5855.png 13:50 < kanzure> hooray. can you try committing multiple .scad files? 13:50 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50 < fenn> can you just make yourself a dummy user? 13:51 < fenn> `sudo make me a dummy` 13:51 < kanzure> bah 13:51 < kanzure> debugging is more fun when it's social 13:51 < kanzure> also i'm sick today and it's a miracle i'm even doing work 13:55 < fenn> uh, does it matter if they're in the same commit? 13:56 < kanzure> nope 13:56 < kanzure> the idea is to render each revision of each .scad file 13:56 < kanzure> i'm on the fence about enabling .stl rendering.. i don't want to encourage .stl commits :( 13:57 < fenn> wtf 13:57 < fenn> git rebase --onto c7e56137c7f97c65f2b42de3d17506d09bc47de8 13:57 < fenn> shift: 426: can't shift that many 13:57 < kanzure> what happened? 13:58 < fenn> just fighting with git 14:05 < fenn> needs some more fiddlin 14:05 < fenn> remote: #include "shapes.scad-879f4463c3-model.pov" 14:05 < fenn> remote: #declare main_mesh = m_OpenSCAD_Model 14:05 < fenn> remote: Parse Error: Cannot assign uninitialized identifier. 14:05 < kanzure> oh, right 14:05 < fenn> scad file not getting copied? 14:06 < kanzure> i don't know how to set model name.. other than this: 14:06 < kanzure> model_name=`grep "#declare" "${input_scad_file_path}" | cut -d\ -f2` 14:06 < kanzure> no, i was hardcoding it to model_name=m_OpenSCAD_Model 14:06 < kanzure> anyway, try again 14:08 < fenn> remote: #declare main_mesh = ; 14:08 < fenn> remote: Parse Error: Expected 'RValue to declare', ; found instead 14:08 < kanzure> yeah.. hrm 14:09 < kanzure> commit id? 14:09 < fenn> shapes.scad-4a418534e0.scad is empty 14:09 < fenn> ls -lrt 14:09 < fenn> anyway it's 4933... 14:10 < kanzure> shapes.scad shouldn't be empty if you committed it, that's worrisome 14:10 < kanzure> but more importantly the declare main_mesh = ; means that i'm not grabbing the model name out of the .scad file 14:10 < kanzure> in the case of gears.scad, there is no main object mesh name http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/gears.scad-75a5b64775.scad 14:11 < kanzure> since it's a function.. openscad has nothing to render 14:11 < kanzure> although how does http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/gears.scad-75a5b64775.stl have content, then? 14:11 < fenn> but gears renders 14:11 < kanzure> orly? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/4933fad612fa500556f8bb11d52f454151f15d20/ 14:11 < kanzure> no .png files 14:11 < kanzure> gears.scad is named OpenSCAD_Model 14:11 < fenn> huh, it worked before 14:12 < kanzure> because i changed it 14:12 < fenn> ok, well, stop making stupid assumptions then 14:12 < kanzure> anyway, i've changed it back.. now why would shapes.scad be of none-size 14:12 < kanzure> umm if you want to see what's going on, check /gitduino/git/kanzure/dremelfuge.git/hooks/post-receive 14:14 < kanzure> i don't know why i'm using bash to script this *shrug* probably the aleve/advil/tylenol talking 14:15 < fenn> is #declare the typical way to make an openscad shape? 14:16 < fenn> also this looks complicated enough to warrant being in revision control 14:16 < kanzure> no the #declare thing is replaced in a povray file 14:16 < kanzure> it's in revision control elsewhere in a repo i haven't shared 14:16 < kanzure> i'm hesitant to share it right this moment because there might be passwords committed and other sensitive shit 14:17 < kanzure> (also a mostly-working solidworks plugin to gitduino, woot) 14:18 < kanzure> actually if you look you'll find it in /home/gitduino/tempname/tn_web/renderbot/post-receive 14:20 < fenn> solidworks plugin? 14:20 * kanzure nods 14:22 < fenn> bleh 14:22 * fenn goes back to bed 14:22 < kanzure> i make no guarantees of my coding quality when i'm sick 14:23 < fenn> no, just all the .cs stuff, i have no idea what any of it means 14:23 < kanzure> it's unrelated to the post-receive script 14:23 < kanzure> basically it's csharp 14:25 < jrayhawk> where's this povray hook you're making? 14:25 < fenn> /home/gitduino/tempname/tn_web/renderbot/post-receive 14:26 < jrayhawk> golly 14:26 < fenn> buck passed, intiating extrication procedures 14:44 < kanzure> open source flower commons? what http://www.isea2010ruhr.org/files/redaktion/pdf/isea2010_proceedings_p23_tremmel.pdf 14:44 < kanzure> oh probably a seed distribution movement .. thing 14:46 < jebba> Food not Lawns 14:48 -!- klord [~klord@64.39.0.76] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:10 -!- Juul [~Juul@static.88-198-13-205.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:14 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC] 15:25 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@pool-98-114-75-172.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 < kanzure> my talk just went up from caltech 15:48 < kanzure> "personal manufacturing and the gada prize" no guarantees on quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X94jHzFNF4 15:49 < kanzure> you can also get the 282 MB here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/humanityplus-at-caltech/Bryan_Bishop_HPlus.mov 15:53 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:59 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 < gleapsite> A short documentary on a makerspace my girlfriend made: http://vimeo.com/18994485 16:04 < kanzure> gleapsite: did you see this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wamwklXWK4M 16:07 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@pool-98-114-75-172.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100922073514]] 16:08 < gleapsite> no i havent 16:26 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 < jrayhawk> your answer to the question at the end was pretty bad 16:31 < kanzure> yes i agree 16:31 < kanzure> the one about patents? 16:31 < jrayhawk> Yeah. 16:31 < kanzure> what's worse that as i was saying it i knew i could answer it better 16:32 < jrayhawk> Your point was a good one, but, of course, you'd already made it anyway. 16:32 < kanzure> some biohack.me person commented on skdb: http://www.facebook.com/kanzure/posts/143172995743491 16:33 < kanzure> "Wow, that looks pretty cool; I read some of the skdb code and it dealt with a lot geometry. Guess I know what it's for now! :p I was speaking to some of those implant maniacs, I don't think geometric transforms are a priority for them, a nice looking front end (synaptic-like) might be useful. Was thinking of having a hack in that direction." 16:33 < kanzure> 'synaptic'/uis don't seem like a huge priority while everything else is broken 16:33 < jrayhawk> 'You are using an incompatible web browser.' thanks, dickbags 16:34 < kanzure> try --user-agent="facebook" 16:34 < jrayhawk> nah, they can fuck off 16:35 < kanzure> headaches really suck. you people regularly get these? jeeze 16:36 < jrayhawk> http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/barometric-pressure-headache.html 16:36 < jrayhawk> Not me, but I know a few who do. 16:36 < kanzure> i don't think it's weather-related but rather a bug or virus 16:36 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 < kanzure> what i really want to know is why i appear to be getting more work done >:o 16:37 < kanzure> sick. 16:37 < jrayhawk> Ah. I occasionally get them as a result of foodbourne toxins. 16:43 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46 * jebba goes to watch kanzure's video... 16:52 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 16:53 < kanzure> jebba: it's nothing new :) 16:55 < jebba> i'm hanging on every word. I just paused so i could mail the link :) 16:55 < jebba> meh youtube, i got the real one ;) 17:03 < jebba> ah, man, i swear half the phrases you say i've said about this too. Kind of eery the way the hivemind forms or whatever it is. 17:03 < gleapsite> Carl Jung's world mind as realized by the internet. see ref: Borg. 17:04 < kanzure> the borg are pussies 17:04 < gleapsite> oh? 17:05 < kanzure> jrayhawk: do you know of a good youtube upload script? i can't upload from my home connection (it would take a few days) 17:20 -!- l1chen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:32 < jrayhawk> uh, googlecl? 17:34 < jrayhawk> the best part about the google command line interface is that it is unable to google from the command line 17:34 < jrayhawk> surfraw can, though 17:34 < kanzure> oh man. google youtube post --category Music /home/marius/Videos/Softpedia_Test.wmv 17:34 < kanzure> awesome 17:38 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:39 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 18:04 -!- niftyzero [~miron@70-36-139-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:16 < jebba> surfraw ftw :) 18:18 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- niftyzero [~miron@70-36-139-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:23 < jrayhawk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVqX4VMocwo pipe extruder/bender 18:33 < JayDugger> Did anyone here read a paper comparing various package managers? 18:34 < JayDugger> Not recent, 2-5 years old. 18:35 < JayDugger> Might have mentioned Nix? 18:38 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-67-171-133-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-98-239-176-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- gleapsite [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45 -!- gleapsite1 [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:46 -!- gleapsite1 [~Gleapsite@120.sub-75-192-123.myvzw.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 18:50 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:53 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:55 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 < jennicide> what field of study would h+ fall under? 21:14 < fenn> narcissism 21:14 < JayDugger> :) 21:17 < jrayhawk> It's first and foremost an ideology, so that would be philosophy. 21:17 < jrayhawk> Most of the people in here probably qualify more as engineers, though. 21:19 < jennicide> oh 21:25 < jrayhawk> why do you want to kill jenni, anyway 21:27 < jennicide> say it outloud 21:30 < fenn> all the jens, obviously 21:55 < jrayhawk> i said it out loud and now people are looking at me funny THIS WAS ALL A TRICK 21:55 < jennicide> genocide 21:56 < jrayhawk> You can't make me! 21:57 < jrayhawk> Oh, surfraw can't actually do google searches. That's dumb. 21:58 < fenn> what's the rationale behind that? 21:58 < jrayhawk> No idea, now. It seemed like a good idea until I found out what it actually was. 21:59 < jrayhawk> I guess it's like crap version of vimperator or uzbl 21:59 < fenn> i thought it was just mostly unmaintained 22:11 -!- klafka_ [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:19 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- Lukas___ [44c29d04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.157.4] has quit [Client Quit] 22:31 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:53 < delinquentme> im assuming some people in here have played with arduinos .. im trying to figure out what my options are for robust communication between an arduino mega .. and a server. What are the protocols and what would the corresponding cables be 23:02 < fenn> usb, serial (rs232), ethernet 23:03 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sat Jan 29 00:00:10 2011