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01:11 < kanzure> 'Boy, Captain America over here! "Best of the best of the best, sir!" "With honors." Yeah, he's just really excited and he has no clue why we're here.'
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03:06 < Lukas___> Good morning
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04:55 < fenn> is there a word for using a webcam to detect facial expression and sending only compressed version of the expression as a cartoon sort of thing? (webcam avatar sorta kinda works)
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04:58 < fenn> man, all the kinect avatars look like bobbleheads
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05:08 < Lukas__> Good morning
05:26 < kanzure> fenn: at least recommended because the book recommendations match what you've recently been reading,
05:26 < kanzure> http://ynotds.com/
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05:26 < fenn> is this tony's book?
05:27 < fenn> he's like the australian greg egan~
05:29 < JayDugger> You know Greg Egan's an Australian, right?
05:30 < kanzure> fenn: no i think he's just reaching retirement and wants a commemorative wall of text
05:32 < fenn> JayDugger: hence the snark mark
05:32 < JayDugger> Sorry. I missed that.
05:32 < kanzure> ##hplusroadmap: an official sponsor of the snarkmark~
05:32 < JayDugger> I didn't know Egan was an Australian until the day after I left his hometown.
05:32 < JayDugger> Some people can't read faces. I have to guess at emoticons.
05:33 < JayDugger> Failing that, I need elevator shoes to help me catch what goes over my head.
05:33 < fenn> you should try reading minds, works much better
05:34 < JayDugger> No, thank you. Why would I want to go skinny-dipping in blood-warm sewage, fenn?
05:34 < JayDugger> I'll stick inside my own skull.
05:34 < fenn> meh, suit yourself
05:47 < kanzure> best of the best of the best, of the best of the best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRi28W-ENY
05:53 < Lukas__> xD
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06:28 < Lukas__> What is your opinion on the proposed Internet kill switch?
06:29 < fenn> please be more specific
06:30 < Lukas__> http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
06:31 < Lukas__> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
06:34 < fenn> oh, if it's in wired i'm not worried about it
06:35 < fenn> wtf seriously there is no realtime spectrogram visualization for linux?
06:35 < fenn> this is like a 10 line program with fftw
06:37 < Lukas__> What do you mean?
06:37 < Lukas__> "if it's in wired i'm not worried about it"
06:38 < fenn> i want http://ecee.colorado.edu/~mathys/ecen1200/hwcl09/gram2.png but without all the windows legacy cruft
06:39 < kanzure> Lukas__: wired.com is full of shit these days, wired.com/threatlevel (which you linked to) even more so (you might recalled he trolled DIY transhumanism)
06:39 < kanzure> *recall
06:39 < Lukas__> ah
06:40 < Lukas__> It still worries me though, especially with what is happening in Egypt
06:40 < kanzure> i don't think that's true
06:40 < kanzure> if you were actually worried you'd set up a mesh network
06:40 < fenn> egypt's economy isn't tied to the net
06:41 < fenn> even if they for some reason turned off the net for a day, it'd never last a week
06:41 < fenn> i'd like to think we can survive without the internet for a day
06:42 < fenn> and yes, we really do need mesh networks as a fallback
06:43 < fenn> indymedia in carnegie mellon was doing this in like 2003
06:44 < delinquentme> ... a day w/o internet
06:44 < fenn> also there's APRS over shortwave
06:44 < delinquentme> i donno man
06:45 < fenn> i would guess the airwaves would get clogged rather quickly tho
06:46 < fenn> lukas you might like the book "little brother" if you're paranoid about these things
06:48 < fenn> wow, google decided to stop censoring search results in china
06:48 < fenn> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html
06:48 < Lukas__> I'm not paranoid about stuff like this, usually I let it go
06:48 < Lukas__> but a whole internet kill switch scares me
06:49 < Lukas__> anything less and I wouldn't care
06:49 < Lukas__> but this is a bit unnerving
06:49 < ThomasEgi> build your own backbone infrastructure. problem avoided.
06:50 < Lukas__> Funding?
06:50 < ThomasEgi> none.
06:50 < ThomasEgi> you simply conenct to the neighbours.
06:50 < fenn> lukas did you actually read the article?
06:50 < ThomasEgi> wlan, physical wire, and my favorite: free space optical.
06:51 < Utopiah> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region
06:51 < fenn> ThomasEgi: optical sucks (on earth at least)
06:51 < ThomasEgi> fenn, it doesnt
06:51 < fenn> or anything more than 20 feet that doesn't involve towers or tall buildings
06:51 < ThomasEgi> 2km with 10mbit is not bad at all
06:52 < ThomasEgi> with homebrew hardware.
06:52 < fenn> i'm sure it could be improved a lot if someone actually did some serious development
06:52 < ThomasEgi> it can.
06:52 < ThomasEgi> i'm always keeping an eye on it.
06:52 < ThomasEgi> the 10mbit are baseband transmission.
06:52 < ThomasEgi> using dsp's and real modulation you could get a lot higher bandwith.
06:53 < ThomasEgi> but still. 10mbit is quite fast if you use it to build a meshed grid
06:53 < ThomasEgi> even a lot less would be useful for communication. if you dont have to deal with youtube and the likes you can have an awful lot of people communicating together.
06:54 < fenn> yeah
06:54 < ThomasEgi> http://ronja.twibright.com/ <- for the 10mbit homebrew
06:54 < ThomasEgi> i'm thinking about building a smaller, lot simpler and cheaper usb versiom.
06:54 < fenn> i knew about ronja even before i heard about wifi mesh networks
06:54 < ThomasEgi> with just one to 3 mbit
06:56 < ThomasEgi> lowering costs and difficulties. aswell as boosting range.
06:57 < fenn> you can already get usb wifi transmitters though..
06:58 < ThomasEgi> jeah but.. a government can easily disturb wifi city-wide
06:58 < fenn> is that true?
06:58 < ThomasEgi> signal-noise ratio..
06:58 < fenn> there's already a zillion things pumping out non-wifi 2.4GHz
06:59 < ThomasEgi> jeah. wifi is totaly at it's limit already.
07:00 < ThomasEgi> i mean.. wifi sends in the milliwatt range.. a microwave oven easily does 300 to 1000.
07:00 < ThomasEgi> shutting down wifi is quite easy
07:02 < kanzure> so all those non-profit orgs for civil rights and other bullshit
07:02 < kanzure> should be supplying enough ronjas or mesh nodes to cover the surface of egypt
07:02 < kanzure> quick, do the math! how much would that be and at what cost?
07:02 < ThomasEgi> ronja is comparebly expensive.
07:02 < kanzure> doesn't matter, civil rights groups are loaded with bullshit dollars
07:03 < ThomasEgi> somewhere between 100 and 250 $ per link i guess.
07:04 < ThomasEgi> for slightly reduced speed, like the 3mbit usb version i am experimenting around.. you could cut the costs down by 80%. if you order in volume, even more
07:04 < kanzure> i don't care.. set it as a variable
07:05 < ThomasEgi> well. setting it up, aiming the devices etc is propably what takes most time.
07:05 < ThomasEgi> a single link is established quite fast, but a whole mesh takes time. so you better set it up before your government decides to go down the drain.
07:06 < kanzure> i don't think you read what i wrote
07:08 < ThomasEgi> *sigh* it's unpraticable :P
07:12 < ThomasEgi> to mesh up cairo with one node every 200meters (which is really dense) it may be around 1 to 2 mio €
07:12 < kanzure> 2 million euros? is cheap for these NPOs
07:13 < ThomasEgi> so.. if you break down the gosts. it's less than 50¢ per person living in cairo. you'd have to bridge to the people's homes using regular cables or (as long as the government doesnt shut you down) wifi
07:13 < ThomasEgi> it could be a lot cheaper tho.
07:15 < ThomasEgi> when i look at pictures , it appears cairo's roofs are clustered with satelite dishes. a few small optical heads would go almost unnoticed.
07:17 < ThomasEgi> oh , one big advantage of optical links. they dont distrub each other, so you can have as many as you like.
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08:18 < kanzure> haha john smart is cited on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
08:19 < kanzure> Lukas__ if you ever get bored you can rewrite the diybio wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DIYbio
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08:59 < kanzure> international biomolecular design competition http://biomod.net/
09:00 < kanzure> wait, you don't have to make your molecule?
09:00 < kanzure> DMD bullshit here we come
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09:52 < Lukas__> Did I miss anything vital?
09:53 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2011-01-30.log
09:54 < Lukas__> Wow, the logs are fairly short
10:09 < kanzure> htmlerized logs http://gnusha.org/logs/html/
10:10 < Lukas__> interesting
10:10 < Lukas__> how long did it take for you to do that?
10:11 < kanzure> 10 seconds
10:13 < Lukas__> oh ...
10:13  * kanzure was looking at http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/
10:14 < Lukas__> *reading*
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10:16 < Lukas__> xD they are using shields!
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10:27 < Lukas__> well, it seems as if things have broken down to street brawling
10:33 < kanzure> logs backup 28 MB (not including html) http://gnusha.org/logs/hplusroadmap-2011-01-30.tar.gz
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11:02 < Lukas__> " Then it's time for the E-Democr@cy. Ok that name was bad. But in the age of Internet we can share ideas and thoughts at lightspeed. If it was used properly for politics, everything being digitalized, a nation could build a consensus much faster than now, and maybe without the need of good-for-nothing politicians to represent them. Of course there would still be an Executive power, but if every citizen was connected online, th
11:17 < ThomasEgi> Lukas__, what good is edecomcracy if your government decides to shut down the net ;)
11:17 < Lukas__> :D
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11:22 < Lukas__> I think I agree with Patri on this, we are still using 18th century governments with 21st century tech.  What new forms governments should take, I have no idea
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11:23 < kanzure> i don't particularly care what that new form is as long as you leave me alone with my own island/colony to experiment on
11:23 < kanzure> also with a working copy of skdb
11:24 < Lukas__> xD
11:25 < Lukas__> China does something like that
11:25 < Lukas__> 'special economic zones' they call it
11:28 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, +1 in that. should i get back to you when we get that swimming-island done?
11:28 < ThomasEgi> we pinned out a few underwater mountains in the atlantic ocean, suitable to ancor it in international waters :P
11:29 < Lukas__> I prefer Space
11:29 < Lukas__> there is more, well, space
11:29 < Lukas__> and you can move if the neighbors get mean
11:30 < ThomasEgi> :D true true. altho space is a bit more expensive
11:30 < ThomasEgi> and that underwater plateau is about 20x40km in size. so plenty of space to avoid the people you dont want to deal with
11:31 < Lukas__> People are weird, sometimes to intentionally go looking for trouble and see non intervention as aggression (looks at whahabists)
11:33 < ThomasEgi> hm.. to my knkowledge the next inhabited island is more than 1000km away from there
11:34 < ThomasEgi> it's a small chain of underwater mountains. streching over some 300km or so
11:34 < ThomasEgi> lots of space..
11:34 < Lukas__> where exactly?
11:35 < ThomasEgi> yermolenko semount
11:35 < ThomasEgi> seamount
11:35 < ThomasEgi> bout 600km south-east  of gough island
11:36 < ThomasEgi> some of those mountains reach as high as 10meters below sea-level. so it's quite easy to build upon it
11:36 < Lukas__> wow
11:37 < Lukas__> I had no idea that even existed
11:37 < ThomasEgi> dunno if anyone tried that.
11:37 < Lukas__> what about current?
11:37 < ThomasEgi> there's ocean
11:37 < ThomasEgi> plenty of wind, water, waves
11:37 < ThomasEgi> freshwater is also no problem with that much energy around.
11:37 < ThomasEgi> hydrofarming etc...
11:38 < ThomasEgi> and it's international sea afaik. so.. if you can build your house there, it's your coutnry :P
11:38 < Lukas__> The southern tip of Southern Africa/ South America are notorious for it's horrendous currents and storms
11:38 < ThomasEgi> until soeone invades you :P
11:38 < ThomasEgi> jeah... matter of design :P
11:38 < ThomasEgi> nothing that couldnt be overcome with a good construction
11:39 < Lukas__> true
11:39 < Lukas__> I suppose space is a personal preference
11:40 < ThomasEgi> jeah. but more expensive and a lot harder to do :P
11:40 < Lukas__> *insert pale blue dot spiel*
11:41 < Lukas__> I don't like the idea of all sentient life (that we know of) being on one rock
11:41 < Lukas__> all of our history, culture, and tech could be lost in a very short period of time
11:43 < kanzure> don't worry, the upload of wikipedia to voyager2 will only take another 147 years
11:44 < ThomasEgi> i doubt that voyager2 has the required 12gb storage capacity :P
11:44 < kanzure> don't be so sure.. those guys can find ridiculous ways to compress data
11:44 < Lukas__> xD
11:44 < Lukas__> I'd like someone to live too
11:45 < ThomasEgi> getting a single person into space is still sane.
11:45 < ThomasEgi> a whole structure beeing able to permanently support living.. is a bit out of scope i guess
11:45 < Lukas__> My end goal in all of this is to possibly have humans adapt some phenotypes of extremophiles so that we can better adapt to the harsh reality of space
11:46 < ThomasEgi> no air, no food, no thermal insulation for the extreme temperatures...
11:46 < ThomasEgi> did i miss something?
11:47 < ThomasEgi> i think i'd be easier to grow an organic spaceship from scratch ;)
11:49 < Lukas__> Well, something's got to give, of course we'd grow food.  But perhaps our biochemistry can be made more efficient, perhaps issues such as radiation, hard vacuum, and muscle loss can be dealt with (to a certain degree)
11:49 < Lukas__> better defenses against extreme temperatures
11:50 < Lukas__> etc.
11:59 < kanzure> Lukas__: out of curiosity, do you read hplusmagazine.com?
11:59 < Lukas__> no
11:59 < Lukas__> well, very little
12:00 < Lukas__> Why?
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13:09 < ThomasEgi> so much about egypt's communication infrastructure. they'r reviving bbs and fidonet :D
13:11 < Lukas__> :D
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13:34 < kanzure> hi Unknown19389
13:34 < kanzure> oh. you're jennicide
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14:27 < kanzure> full? adventures in synthetic biology http://www.nature.com/nature/comics/syntheticbiologycomic/
14:28 < kanzure> oh.. here it is
14:28 < kanzure> http://mit.edu/endy/www/scraps/comic/AiSB.vol1.pdf
14:49 < Lukas__> I've been meaning to read that comic
14:49 < Lukas__> is it any good?
14:51 < kanzure> go ahead and read it
14:55  * kanzure goes to mom's house to steal food
14:56 < Lukas__> aww
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16:07 < AlonzoTG> om
16:20 < AlonzoTG> =\
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18:27 < kanzure> backk
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19:04 < kanzure> hi wireghost
19:04 < wireghost> hello
19:07 < kanzure> what brings you around?
19:07 < wireghost> Just watching the H+@Caltech videos.
19:08 < wireghost> Followed the links and found this channel.
19:09 < kanzure> ah, hi there
19:09 < kanzure> you were probably watching me, then
19:10 < wireghost> Yeah the Personal Manufacturing video.
19:13 < wireghost> BTW what is gitduino?
19:13 < kanzure> it's like http://thingiverse.com/ except built on top of git
19:14 < wireghost> Ah, I thought it might have something to do with Arduino due to the name.
19:14 < kanzure> arduino is also open source hardware,
19:14 < kanzure> so i imagine people will add arduino projects as well
19:15 < kanzure> i'm really bad at naming things so if you have any recommendations ... ;)
19:15 < wireghost> Thingit?  No, I'm also bad at naming things.
19:17 < wireghost> So, unlike github, it would basically attempt to render images in the repo?
19:17 < kanzure> yes
19:17 < kanzure> her's a sample:
19:17 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov//dremelfuge/01604aefda5a079f740ff5fa966bcade9511ed80/gears.scad-1101b4abdb.png
19:18 < kanzure> or: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov//dremelfuge/305fce14356203666ebffe6141630bd2b8f240c3/dremelfuge-v4.scad-72422eca27.png
19:19 < wireghost> Would the png files be part of the repository, or automatically generated when needed for display?
19:19 < kanzure> i'm caching them somewhere else on the server (not committing them)
19:19 < kanzure> i don't feel right committing binary data like that
19:20 < wireghost> makes sense
19:20 < kanzure> but i'll be happy to provide a .tar.gz of the images or something
19:20 < jrayhawk> Yeah, that's a build product; at best it would make sense to git-annex them
19:20 < jrayhawk> also unlike github, presumably bryan will be releasing source for this
19:20 < kanzure> uh uh
19:20 < kanzure> right
19:21 < jrayhawk> If he knows what's good for him :mad:
19:21 < kanzure> i don't want to turn this into gitorious
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19:36 < kanzure> all links from ##hplusroadmap:
19:36 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/meta/hplusroadmap-2011-01-30-links.url.txt
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19:58 < kanzure> i am very tempted to just claim that hplusmagazine.com has been deleted
19:58 < kanzure> and all backups have mysteriously vanished
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20:19 < kanzure> socal-diybio party pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/halconnen/sets/72157625817821985/with/5402975749/
20:21 < kanzure> what? http://www.flickr.com/photos/halconnen/5402960741/in/set-72157625817821985/
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21:02 < kanzure> what is alex lightman doing posing with jay cutler? what the fuck
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21:03 < kanzure> the guy does like a 550 lbs bench press
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21:56 < kanzure> wb superkuh
21:56 < superkuh> Hello. Thank you.
22:07 < kanzure> heh hplusroadmap's brand of diybio pre-dates diybio.org
22:07 < kanzure> i forgot about that
22:07 < kanzure> http://biohack.sf.net/
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