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01:04 < joshcryer> So reality TV.
01:04 < joshcryer> It's garbage.
01:04 < joshcryer> I want to see real reality TV.
01:04 < joshcryer> Where you effectively spy on someones life, like The Truman Show.
01:05 < joshcryer> If you want to get rich set up a site that does this.
01:05 < joshcryer> Have people volunteer for their lives to be watched every minute of every day.
01:05 < joshcryer> Once you get a million subscribers pick one (preferrably attractive with some weird crappy family stuff going on).
01:06 < joshcryer> They will have volunteered to have their house, car, and effectively their entire lives be watched privately.
01:07 < joshcryer> Then you watch 'em for 5 years, and release the video after that point.
01:07 < joshcryer> I'll never forget being so naive / stupid / duped about The Greatest Race.
01:08 < joshcryer> I thought they really were going to take people, drop them off in some country somewhere with their passport, and they were to get home, somehow. No help from the camera crew.
01:09 < joshcryer> Stupid reality TV is the greatest con job capitalist media has ever invented. :(
01:11 < joshcryer> The only show I really liked was The Mole, but it was more of a live action adventure game.
02:02 < Utopiah> [naive question warning] is there a kind of table of elements for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine ?
02:21 < JayDugger> You mean something like the periodic table of visualization methods or the periodic table of perl operators to the periodic table of pseudoscience, but for meachanisms?
02:22 < Utopiah> yes, some structure starting of with the basics and useful for beginners
02:23 < JayDugger> I don't know off the top of my head. If I find one, I'll bookmark it. http://www.delicious.com/popular/periodictable might make a good place to start
02:25 < Utopiah> ok, thanks
02:36 < JayDugger> Periodic Table of Bar & Grill Food (menu as periodic table)
02:36 < JayDugger> via gizmodo, somewhat funny once.
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02:39 < JayDugger> Periodic Table of British Swear Words...
02:41 < JayDugger> If I mention a period table here, you can find it bookmarked at delicious.com/jay.dugger/periodictable.
02:43 < Utopiah> there should just be a meta periodic table then
02:43 < JayDugger> I found a link to the periodic table of periodic tables, but haven't yet checked it.
02:44 < JayDugger> It occurs to me that studying the history of the periodic table would tell about the various schema that failed.
02:44 < JayDugger> And here's the internet database of periodic tables.
02:48 < JayDugger> Flickr photoset (6 images) from NASA of their visit to Bigelow Aerospace facility yesterday.
02:48 < JayDugger> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/sets/72157625851963211/with/5417058338/
02:52 < JayDugger> Ha! one image shows a mural on the facility wall: Mars rising from one of its moons!
02:52 < JayDugger> Now that's corporate art that inspires.
02:59 < joshcryer> I don't see it.
02:59 < JayDugger> Far right of the image.
02:59 < JayDugger> Viewed at an oblique angle.
02:59 < joshcryer> Ahah! Nice.
03:00 < JayDugger> Not the best painting, but full marks otherwise.
03:00 < joshcryer> Yeah, I was looking for photorealism so it didn't even register. Nice spotting though.
03:01 < JayDugger> I didn't notice it either until I looked at the original size. Even then, I found it only because I looked at the background for chromatic aberratio.
03:01 < JayDugger> aberration.
03:02 < ThomasEgi> gimp can fix the perspective :3
03:04 < ThomasEgi> http://home.arcor.de/positiveelectron/files/marsmoon.jpg
03:05 < JayDugger> Nicely, done!
03:07 < JayDugger> And fast, too.
03:08 < Utopiah> welcome to CSI ;)
03:10 < ThomasEgi> CSI uses visual basic to trace you ;) oh and they have 3 petapixel-surveillance cameras!
03:10 < ThomasEgi> so... screw hubble.. kets ask them to take a few shots of the sky
03:38 < Utopiah> I guess everybody here knows about it but just in case http://thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com (a la http://numb3rs.wolfram.com )
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05:49 < Utopiah> new videos from http://www.youtube.com/user/WholeBrainCatalog (YT homepage finally makes sense)
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06:25 < timschmidt> kanzure: http://theenergycollective.com/michaelgiberson/51062/cold-snap-brings-rolling-power-outages-texas-ercot-policy-isolation-fault
06:29 < kanzure> yeah.. that's why i wasn't around the other day
06:29 < kanzure> off for 45min, on for 10min.. completely useless.
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06:43 < klafka1> wow that sucks
06:43 < klafka1> oh global warming
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07:17 < fenn> apophenia
07:23 < JayDugger> Austin had what, all of 2" of snow?
07:24 < ThomasEgi> did i hear snow?
07:24 < JayDugger> I'll say snow.
07:24 < ThomasEgi> where?
07:25 < JayDugger> Dallas, Texas at least, and many other places in North America too.
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07:25 < JayDugger> Of course, summer will arrive all too soon. :(
07:25 < thesnark> Somebody's _not_ looking forward to summer?
07:26 < Lukas_> New York got pounded with ice and snow
07:26 < JayDugger> High electricity bills, temperatures over a hundred F, painfully bright sunlight, no.
07:26 < JayDugger> I dislike summer.
07:26  * ThomasEgi remembers his good old days on the mountain where 3 meters snow where concidered totaly normal
07:27 < Lukas_> As do I Jaydugger
07:27 < Lukas_> but this winter is too much
07:27 < thesnark> ThomasEgi yeah I think people tend to make snow a bigger deal than it is sometimes
07:27 < Lukas_> I don't mind the cold
07:27 < Lukas_> but this is a pain
07:27 < JayDugger> I like having the local roads to myself.
07:27 < thesnark> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMzeiMJQrvk which is why this video is so funny
07:27 < thesnark> they can't handle like 2 inches =P
07:28 < ThomasEgi> 2 inches.. :D lol
07:28 < JayDugger> Yeah. In all fairness, snow isn't bad. Ice is worse, and DFW has 4-5 inches of snow atop 1-2 inches of ice.
07:28 < ThomasEgi> 4wd  doesnt compensate for bad tires and zero driving skill
07:28 < JayDugger> Nope. It just allows a more impressive set of mistakes.
07:29 < ThomasEgi> especially read-wheel-drive..
07:29 < ThomasEgi> totaly reminds of that airhockey tables :D
07:30 < JayDugger> Yeah. Driving in snow in high winds is no fun, so it could get much worse.
07:30 < JayDugger> And $0.02 for the off-topic jar.
07:30 < kanzure> we had less than 2in of snow
07:30 < kanzure> it was more like slush anyway. i personally don't believe snow is a real thing and you're all just making it up.
07:30 < JayDugger> Heh, heh...
07:30 < ThomasEgi> JayDugger, i concider "knowing when not to drive" a driving skill ;)
07:31 < kanzure> fenn: what's up?
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08:49 < kanzure> http://www.science20.com/eye_brainstorm/blog/should_we_worry_about_antimakers-75916
08:52 < thesnark> haters gonna hate
08:53 < kanzure> it's sensationalist drivel.
08:53 < thesnark> Welcome to news in America
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08:56 < mayko> because if i sat down and designed a bomb, i'd definitely put blinking LEDs on it.
08:57 < thesnark> It's really an essential part of the design
08:57 < AlonzoTG> =\
08:58 < AlonzoTG> Being banned from Extropia Core in SL is beginning to grate again. =\
08:58 < AlonzoTG> Also, not having any posting privs on Exi-chat is also annoying.
08:58 < ThomasEgi> mayko, what color?
08:58 < ThomasEgi> and would you also use colored ribbon cables?
08:58 < AlonzoTG> Chatrooms are OK, but you can't really spell out a ten page treatise in chat.
08:59 < kanzure> thesnark: i'd hire you in an instant to build my bombs
09:00 < kanzure> bugs are piling up on me over here
09:00 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, what would you pay for one ;)
09:00 < kanzure> for one of the bugs to be fixed?
09:00 < kanzure> depends on which project
09:00 < kanzure> but definitely $100+ for a few of these
09:00 < thesnark> Sweet! I also double as a delivery man! ;)
09:00 < ThomasEgi> na. for a well designed man^
09:01 < ThomasEgi> bomb^
09:01 < ThomasEgi> why did reading thesnark's last word replace my "bomb" with "man"?
09:01 < thesnark> Dear NSA/FBI, I am completely joking and don't even know how to make bombs or want to.
09:01 < ThomasEgi> brains are strange.
09:01 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: i'll probably regret this but humanity+ has a mailing list too, which has about the same audience as extropy-chat http://www.transhumanism.org/mailman/listinfo/wta-talk
09:02 < kanzure> just in case anyone is wondering why i'm still bothering with humanity+, it's a conduit for money and fundraising for open source transhuman tech projects
09:02 < thesnark> kanzure That's good enough for me!
09:02 < thesnark> $$$ is king
09:03 < kanzure> while i have your attention..
09:04 < kanzure> any suggestions for revamping hplusmagazine.com or using it in a better way would be appreciated
09:04 < kanzure> there's about 2,000 to 3,000 subscribers that regularly (daily) read it
09:04 < kanzure> and sometimes the traffic spikes to 10k uniques on a good day
09:04 < kanzure> but there's no regular keyword traffic
09:04 < kanzure> actually it's really weird like that, after 1000+ articles you'd think the site would have stumbled on a niche keyword that has regular sustained traffic
09:05 < thesnark> kanzure I realize there is a search bar, however I think from a usability perspective it could be useful to group entries by general subject
09:06 < thesnark> maybe in a menu somewhere
09:06 < kanzure> http://hplusmagazine.com/archive has the categories
09:06 < kanzure> i don't know why they have so many categories though
09:06 < thesnark> gah whoops
09:06 < thesnark> Yeah
09:06 < thesnark> What I'm getting at is people don't always know what they're looking for
09:07 < thesnark> so maybe start with general subjects and branch into more specific things
09:07 < thesnark> like a tree, except with menus
09:07 < thesnark> and
09:07 < thesnark> not too specific
09:07 < kanzure> so.. your suggestion is for me or someone else to manually go and recategorize all 1100 articles?
09:07 < thesnark> Well, maybe you wouldn't have to do that
09:08 < mayko> oh definitely green
09:08 < mayko> and they count down the time
09:09 < mayko> but not any time in particular
09:09 < thesnark> I don't really like wired but for example they have their site broken into "sections"
09:09 < mayko> and start, stop and reset for no good reason
09:10 < thesnark> So if I just want to know what hplusmagazine has to say about self replicating sex bots, I can generally know where to look for it
09:10 < thesnark> and see a set of broadly related articles at the same time
09:10 < kanzure> i'm not sure how to figure out "article usefulness" because to me everything on it is old news even when it's being posted for the first time
09:10 < thesnark> hm
09:10 < kanzure> so from my perspective everything is old, stale, and not useful to anyone unless they have been living under a rock
09:11 < kanzure> ben goertzel has written a few overview articles that tend to be interesting from a "popular science" perspective, like his recent femtotech article
09:11 < kanzure> but i don't know why he didn't just spend that time working on nanotech problems anyway
09:11  * thesnark is significantly off his game this morning, back later
09:11 < kanzure> instead of writing :)
09:11 < thesnark> be back later*
09:11 < kanzure> ok thesnark, cya
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09:12 < kanzure> thesnark: btw, "sexbots" is one of the top keywords that gives traffic to the site
09:12 < kanzure> so you nailed that.
09:18 < kanzure> it's not like it's 1,000x more popular than previous sites i've managed, so it's hard to tell if there's really regular traffic here that i should be taking advantage of in some way
09:18 < kanzure> it's maybe more like 50x to 100x the traffic to, say, heybryan.org, but i don't really trust google analytics like that :P
09:19 < kanzure> also, i have no idea what's going on here.. seems to be a biopython/bioperl/bioruby code sharing site? http://biocoders.net/
10:03 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, how about satisfying that incredible demand ;)
10:07 < kanzure> ?
10:07 < kanzure> demand for what
10:14 < ThomasEgi> all those 1000x people who land on the page due to their keywords
10:23 < AlonzoTG> yeah, /me needs a gf.
10:28 < kanzure> I'm finishing up the draft grand prize (gada prize) document. Did I ever decide whether or not it's supposed to allow submissions that were "only open source if they win the prize money" ?
10:39 < kanzure> yeah, nevermind. no.
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12:24 < Lukas_> I don't see anything wrong with the blog
12:24 < Lukas_> http://www.science20.com/eye_brainstorm/blog/should_we_worry_about_antimakers-75916
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13:38 < Utopiah> Facilitate Insight by Non-Invasive Brain Stimulation http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016655
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16:39 < Lukas_> hullo
16:44 < kanzure> hello
17:00 < kanzure> my hobby: hanging out in irc channels offering brilliant programming advice that is subtly wrong in very important ways
17:34 < Lukas_> :D
17:34 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, sounds legit
17:38 < Lukas_> Hullo ThomasEgi
17:38 < ThomasEgi> hi Lukas_
17:40 < Lukas_> I think I found a lab that I want to do some volunteer work in, the PhD has an interesting ethical framework
17:40 < Lukas_> very much like Kevin Warwick
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18:03 < kanzure> ben hyink's diybio-chicago offshoot http://chicagobioscience.wordpress.com/
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23:12 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
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