--- Log opened Wed Feb 23 00:00:10 2011 00:24 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: pasky, dbolser, tav 00:24 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: uniqanomaly_, CryptoQuick, AaronBarr, z^ck 00:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tav, dbolser, pasky 00:36 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-170.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- AaronBarr [tetsu@pool-72-64-141-214.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- z^ck [~zack@olol.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:44 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:55 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-92-124.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-86-170.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:21 -!- alystair [Alystair@bas1-toronto10-1279559238.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ┌(・_・)┘OUTTA HERE└(・o・)┐] 02:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p5483E6CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p5483E6CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:36 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 -!- Juul [~Juul@2001:5a8:4:5630:218:deff:fe2a:4335] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:18 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:55 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:47 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 < kanzure> :) http://cerezo.name/blog/2011/02/16/automatic-exploit-generation/ 07:37 < kanzure> http://security.ece.cmu.edu/aeg/ 07:38 < Utopiah> critics on it http://seclists.org/dailydave/2010/q4/25 07:42 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-76.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:42 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-76.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:42 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 < kanzure> Utopiah: meh 07:46 < kanzure> until QuantumG releases his automatic exploit framework, whatever 08:18 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- streety [~s0678364@cpat001.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:49 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:55 < ENKI-[quit]> kanzure: http://firstchurchofspacejesus.blogspot.com/2011/02/libertarian-distcomp-projects-solutions.html 11:55 < ENKI-[quit]> any ideas? 11:55 < ENKI-[quit]> it occurred to me while i was writing it that you guys actually might be the type to want to do home gene sequencing outside of academics 11:56 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 < kanzure> ENKI-[quit]: for that most of us just use amazon ec2 11:58 < kanzure> but if the data transfer is doable then paying for it in bitcoins or something would be neat but ultimately pointless 12:00 < ENKI-[quit]> hm 12:00 < ENKI-[quit]> so ec2 is an existing system like that? or is it all amazon's own machines? 12:02 < ENKI-[quit]> hm 12:03 < kanzure> ec2 is amazon's "cloud" 12:03 < ENKI-[quit]> kanzure: if i set one up, i could certainly fix the conversion rate so that it stays significantly cheaper than amazon, but i'm not sure what that'd do for people submitting computing time 12:04 < kanzure> check this out: 12:04 < kanzure> http://bowtie-bio.sourceforge.net/crossbow/index.shtml 12:04 < ENKI-[quit]> then again, people do stuff like seti@home and distributed.net for free 12:04 < kanzure> "The pipeline can analyze over 35x coverage of a human genome in one day on a 10-node local cluster, or in 3 hours for about $85 using a 40-node, 320-core cluster rented from Amazon Web Services. " 12:05 < ENKI-[quit]> hah 12:05 < kanzure> so, in the case of doing this via distributed computing, getting the data out to each node would seem very time consuming.. 12:05 < ENKI-[quit]> yeah 12:05 < ENKI-[quit]> can you think of a task for which this could be useful? 12:06 < ENKI-[quit]> it's very firmly in the solution-seeks-problem domain 12:23 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:32 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:48 < kanzure> ah i forgot about this, http://ieee.tv/ 13:09 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:18 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:19 -!- phreedom [~quassel@109.254.17.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- Helleshin [~Helleshin@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46 -!- Helleshin [~Helleshin@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: archels_, jrabbit, Daeken, epitron, jebba, phreedom, AaronBarr, nsh_, CryptoQuick, kanzure, (+23 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 13:48 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: devrandom, sseehh_, ybit, eridu 13:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: eridu, devrandom, sseehh_, ybit 13:49 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51 -!- bkero [~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:24 -!- gnusha_ [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: http://gnusha.org/skdb/ http://groups.google.com/group/diybio http://bit.ly/diybionews http://gitduino.com/ http://gadaprize.org/ | logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ 14:24 -!- Topic set by kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] [Thu Jan 20 10:44:26 2011] 14:24 [Users ##hplusroadmap] 14:24 [ AaronBarr ] [ Daeken ] [ fenn ] [ jmil ] [ nchaimov] [ tav ] 14:24 [ AlonzoTG ] [ dbolser ] [ ferrouswheel] [ jrabbit ] [ nsh_ ] [ ThomasEgi ] 14:24 [ archels_ ] [ devrandom ] [ gnusha ] [ jrayhawk] [ pasky ] [ Tyrant ] 14:24 [ augur ] [ drazak ] [ gnusha_ ] [ kanzure ] [ QuantumG] [ uniqanomaly__] 14:24 [ bkero ] [ elmom ] [ Helleshin ] [ kanzure_] [ saurik ] [ Utopiah ] 14:24 [ CIA-9 ] [ ENKI-[quit]] [ Jappe2 ] [ mayko ] [ sseehh_ ] [ ybit ] 14:24 [ CryptoQuick] [ epitron ] [ jebba ] [ mjr ] [ strages ] [ z^ck ] 14:24 -!- Irssi: ##hplusroadmap: Total of 42 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 42 normal] 14:24 -!- Channel ##hplusroadmap created Thu Feb 25 23:40:30 2010 14:24 -!- Irssi: Join to ##hplusroadmap was synced in 5 secs 14:25 -!- kanzure__ [~kanzure@bioinformatics.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: archels_, mjr 14:29 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: nchaimov, kanzure_, gnusha 14:32 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541EEC68.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 14:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nchaimov 14:37 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:49 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- strages [~809e4e63@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)] 14:57 -!- bkero [~bkero2@horace.dionysian-mind.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:57 -!- bkero [~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:17 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:45 -!- Director_X [432affb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.42.255.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 -!- Director_X [432affb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.42.255.177] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:19 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:38 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-10-120.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:09 -!- tav [~tav@92.7.72.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10 -!- augur [~augur@pool-74-96-10-120.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 < drazak> kanzure__: would a "diy" arm dev board be of interest? 17:23 < kanzure> you mean a breadboard? 17:48 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-ff01dd00-112.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:55 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-ff01dd00-112.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 -!- strages [~strages@wifi.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:01 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 < jrayhawk> http://leaflabs.com/devices/maple/ 19:07 < jrayhawk> 'armduino' if you will 19:08 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-152-155.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 < drazak> kanzure__: er, no 19:09 < drazak> kanzure__: it's a BGA device 19:09 < drazak> kanzure__: or most of them are anyway 19:13 < jrayhawk> 18:36 < kanzure> but he'll probably kick me off when i start advertizing paid services on the site (which is OK with me) 19:13 < kanzure> wtf is this crap 19:13 < kanzure> http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/02/24/open-source-party-2-0-liberty-democracy-transparency/ 19:13 < jrayhawk> It'd be easy enough for you to split it, and I can host the commercial side on commercial hosting I already have available to me. 19:14 < kanzure> jrayhawk: cool :) 19:15 < kanzure> jon lebkowsky is mentioned in that article- he lives here in austin, we bump into each other often.. 19:15 < kanzure> but i think they should know better than to call this 'open source' 19:37 < kanzure> haha "bootcamp for transhumanist transcenders: bryan will kick your ass for 36 hours (or until he can't stand your presence anymore) and force down your throat the latest in technology development, software tutorials, and hardware projects" 19:50 < jrayhawk> the only flaw i see is their expectation that they can somehow stop you after the 36 hours is up 19:55 < kanzure> my horrible attempt at a response to the stupid "open source party" article: 19:55 < kanzure> http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/02/24/open-source-party-2-0-liberty-democracy-transparency/#comment-15673 19:59 < kanzure> Juul: can you stalk down Lasse Birk Olesen , Tao Sabella Hansen 20:00 < kanzure> Tao Sabella Hansen 20:17 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:34 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy 20:36 < jrayhawk> or, specifically 20:36 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy#Information_gift_economies 20:43 < kanzure> jrayhawk: if reading that gets you off let me introduce you to my good friend http://pdfernhout.net/ 20:50 < jrayhawk> I mean, most of the stuff you're pointing to in this "complete re-envisioning of society" is people rejecting the market economy model for information. 20:50 < kanzure> yep 20:51 < kanzure> please read past the bullshit in that comment 20:51 < kanzure> i mean, it's on hplusmagazine.com so i had to sprinkle in some bullshit 20:51 < kanzure> by bullshit i mean phrases like "COMPLETE AND TOTAL OMGAWESOME RE-ENVISIONING" 20:51 < jrayhawk> Ah, the wonders of transhumanism. 20:51 < kanzure> :( 20:58 < kanzure> maybe i should put up some money for this http://futurelabcamp.com/ 20:58 < kanzure> in particular, hackathons get more interesting when the winning demo gets a cash reward 21:00 < kanzure> i also don't get the appeal of "multitouch biology" http://smartlab.tumblr.com/ 21:01 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:44 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:54 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:55 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:02 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:35 -!- strages [~strages@c-71-207-215-204.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:51 < kanzure> my hobby: fucking up the internets 22:51 < kanzure> http://singinst.org/humanity/ 23:09 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:10 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:27 < kanzure> it's like some sort of bizarro world where singinst promotes humanity+ 23:27 < kanzure> http://singinst.org/wta/html/index.html 23:30 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 23:34 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-59-157-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Feb 24 00:00:10 2011