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08:52 < fenn> near infrared brain imaging looks easy enough to DIY http://www.biopac.com/ResearchApplications.asp?Aid=65&Level=1
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09:14 < fenn> tDCS is getting some press http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110413/full/472156a.html
09:21 < JayDugger> Good morning, eveyone.
09:28 < fenn> "no one stands to gain enough return from therapies that can be administered using just US$1,000 worth of off-the-shelf equipment"
09:29 < fenn> am wondering how you manage to spend $1,000 on a current limited 9V power supply
09:31 < fenn> oh boy a new thing to freak out about "Students might secretly 'electrodope' with tDCS before a university entrance exam to inflate their scores."
09:49 < uniqanomaly> or TMS junkies
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09:54 < fenn> ah but the thing is TMS is a technically challenging device to construct
09:54 < fenn> high voltage, fast switching, large currents
09:55 < fenn> supposedly this tDCS can be as simple as a 9 volt battery, a resistor, and a wet sponge
09:56 < uniqanomaly> yeah
09:57  * fenn reads http://network.nature.com/groups/naturenewsandopinion/forum/topics/3503
10:01 < uniqanomaly> luddites vs progress, guess who always wins
10:04 < fenn> luddites
10:08 < uniqanomaly> charlie sheen always wins
10:09 < uniqanomaly> ;p
10:11 < fenn> you can't process charlie sheen without nootropic enhancement
10:11 < uniqanomaly> ;]]
10:14 < fenn> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/quiz/2011/mar/01/muammar-gaddafi-charlie-sheen-quiz
10:18 < kanzure> i'm such an ass
10:18 < kanzure> i'm going to have my phone autodial people
10:18 < kanzure> "it has been X days since you have last called [Bryan Bishop]"
10:21 < fenn> really?
10:21 < kanzure> no :( but i should
10:22 < kanzure> also root exploits for android are surprisingly easy to find/make/use
10:22 < JayDugger> Good night, everyone.
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20:28 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
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21:24 < ybit> http://rifkin.com/LazyStar/legoscope.html :: lego telescope :)
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22:01 < Lukas__> Good morning
22:31 < JayDugger> Good morning, Lukas.
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22:49 < Lukas__> Is it just me or are Transhuman themes popping up more and more in popular culture?
22:52 < kanzure> they have always been there
22:57 < Lukas__> Terminator, i-Robot, Bladerunner?
22:59 < kanzure> how about "any b movie, ever"
23:00 < JayDugger> Explain the transhuman themes in the Honda's 1968 classic, "Destroy All Monsters."
23:00 < Lukas__> lol
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23:01 < JayDugger> For extra credit, compare and contrast the role of Godzilla as transhuman in that film with the same character in "Godzilla Vs. Monster Zero."
23:02 < kanzure> godzilla? GOD ZILLA
23:02 < kanzure> c'mon
23:02 < JayDugger> I don't buy "transhumanism as religion."
23:02 < kanzure> so what?
23:02 < kanzure> that's bullshit anyway
23:03  * kanzure sleeps
23:03 < JayDugger> Damn...put him to bed?
23:03 < JayDugger> Ah well...
23:03 < kanzure> my hours are really weird right now
23:03 < Lukas__> Who said transhumanism is a religion?
23:03 < kanzure> i went to sleep at 5am but woke up at 11am, but now i'm back to something more normal?
23:03 < JayDugger> Parallels get pointed out on occasion.
23:03 < kanzure> Lukas__: look at the wikipedia page
23:03 < JayDugger> Google will give you plenty.
23:04 < Lukas__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EozxDGm-gqA&feature=related  (transhumanism in mainstream culture)
23:04 < Lukas__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM (horrible song, mute it, seriously - nevertheless an example)
23:07 < JayDugger> "OTOH, with an actual customer in LEO and a competitive supply chain  there is no need for profound visions of manifest destiny - discuss."
23:07 < JayDugger> Seriously?
23:08 < JayDugger> In only 140 characters?
23:08 < kanzure> anyone who complains about the 140 character limit on twitter must do so in more than 140 characters or else there complaint is null and void.
23:08  * kanzure really sleeps this time
23:15 < JayDugger> Back to the Godzilla film festival, then.
23:30 < QuantumG> JayDugger, wake up
23:31 < QuantumG> please
23:32 < QuantumG> here's a treatise to go with my 140 characters:  http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=33169#comment-217067
23:32 < QuantumG> I honestly don't think it says much more.
23:38 < JayDugger> Ah. I did miss something.
23:38 < JayDugger> Thank you for the link.
23:40 < QuantumG> that's not to say manifest destiny of some sort is unwelcome.
23:41 < JayDugger> Yah...it worked for North America, after all.
23:41 < QuantumG> I just don't think it should be the only argument... as it is quite unconvincing for quite a lot of people.
23:41 < JayDugger> Agreed. Manifest Destiny is a nice idea, for the winning side, but it still took railroads.
23:42 < JayDugger> I think Ken makes a big jump from multiple private habitats to calling settlement the next step. Not that I wouldn't happily move, mind.
23:43 < QuantumG> he sure does.. but considering some of the stuff I've heard come out of his mouth, it's one of his less crazy thoughts.
23:43 < JayDugger> Frontiers attract crazy people. :)
23:49 < Lukas__> We need to deal with that radiation problem first
23:50 < JayDugger> Yes, and the annoying question of whether humans can reproduce off-Earth.
23:53 < Lukas__> still, there are organisms that can resist all sorts of ridiculous environments such as the Tardigrade or Deinococcus Radiodurans we just need to scale up
23:54 < Lukas__> I was even thinking that we could use the radiotrophic ability of melanotic fungi to produce energy for long distance trips
23:54 < Lukas__> again, still trying to find a way to scale up
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