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03:01 < pasky> kanzure+jrayhawk+QuantumG: thanks for the info :) my goal is to use this to widen my skills (i.e. learn new stuff) and try out multiple smaller projects, not sure if partnering up with some consulting firm would achieve that but I'll try to research some in my area
03:10 < fenn> ls
03:10 < fenn> gah
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07:17 < kanzure> royal society's "science as a public enterprise" http://royalsociety.org/policy/sape/
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08:35 < kanzure> er.. there's a "dj biopunk"
08:36 < kanzure> random animatronics http://youtube.com/watch?v=HyNh3AXegxw
08:40 < kanzure> what was the case of the man with only 2-3cm of brain tissue who had otherwise normal cognitive faculties?
08:52 < ybit> Need about 2 more speakers http://isdc.nss.org/2011/
08:52 < ybit> volunteers?
09:02 < dbolser> Participants are encouraged not just to
09:02 < dbolser> describe an ideal "future state," but to think about the technical,
09:02 < dbolser> economic, or advocacy steps that must be accomplished to achieve a
09:02 < dbolser> specific goal
09:03 < dbolser> rules me out ;-)
09:19 < ybit> come on, you know you want to
09:20 < ybit> Need someone to represent the amateurs
09:21 < ybit> i don't have anything interesting to show off, don't think anyone there cares too much about security with vlf
09:33 < kanzure> ybit: did you take a look at ~bryan/irc/step/ stuff yet?
09:34 < ybit> Not yet.
09:35 < ybit> i'll most likely get to it this weekend after spanish lessons
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09:52 < dbolser> ybit: if speakers get travel money, I'll talk about anything you like ;-)
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09:57 < kanzure> http://www.kahusecurity.com/2011/deobfuscating-the-facebook-spam-script
10:04 < kanzure> cathal is writing content for appropedia now http://www.appropedia.org/Category:Biotech
10:04 < kanzure> man i wish he would start caring about dremelfuge.git
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11:31 < fenn> geogebra (GPL v2) can give analytical solutions to things you draw: http://www.geogebra.org/   and with support for rudimentary 3D constructions (example) http://www.geogebra.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=20174
11:44 < kanzure> sounds like http://creativemachines.cornell.edu/eureqa
11:48 < kanzure> well, for the analytical solutions :)
11:49 < kanzure> whatever happened to sage? wasn't that supposed to go somewhere for mathematical notebooking
11:51 < Utopiah> if its http://code.google.com/p/sagenb/updates/list then it keeps on being updated
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12:09 < kanzure> hi atrus6_
12:09 < atrus6_> Hello there
12:18 < atrus6_> What's the next milestone you're aiming for in skdb?
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12:48 < kanzure> atrus6_: i've been working on lolcad so that i can have scriptable cad model definitions
12:48 < kanzure> (no, openscad doesn't count)
12:49 < atrus6_> Why doesn't openscad count?
12:50 < kanzure> it's not a solid modeling tool
12:57 < atrus6_> Oh duh. That's a dumb question on reflection.
13:09 < kanzure> coincidentally i'm working on lolcad at the moment
13:09 < kanzure> oh crud this file is 1.2MB in size? wtf
13:10 < kanzure> ok that's better..
13:10 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/lolcad/lolcad_box_output.txt
13:11 < kanzure> (that's my clone of esolid's gen_box() command, so that i can test out my esolid-mimic boolean operators)
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14:42 < kanzure> welcome back atrus6
14:47 < atrus6> Thanks.
14:47 < atrus6> So, what's the advantage of lolcad vs othe FOSS cad programs.
14:48 < kanzure> since it doesn't work right now, none
14:48 < kanzure> theoretically? 1) there's some still living that knows how to maintain it
14:48 < kanzure> 2) it does solid geometry modeling with NURBS
14:48 < kanzure> 3) imports/exports to STEP
14:49 < kanzure> 4) isn't a combination of french, russian and english C/C++ from the early 90s (unlike the only other nurbs-based CAD implementation available in the open source world)
14:49 < kanzure> *someone still living
15:06 < atrus6> All understandable points.
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15:32 < kanzure> hi alystair
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15:53 < delinquentme> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v472/n7344/full/nature09929.html  anyone know where / how i can get the full version ? 0=]
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16:00 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/A%20system%20for%20the%20continuous%20directed%20evolution%20of%20biomolecules.pdf
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16:02 < kanzure> "dozens of rounds" lol weak
16:03 < kanzure> *dozens of rounds per day
16:03 < delinquentme> better ways?
16:03 < kanzure> well other techniques like cmparmentalized self-replication can do more cycles in a day but your range of targets is slightly more limited
16:04 < delinquentme> i just saw the article .. the concept of messy dna replification to get directed evo
16:04 < kanzure> *compartmentalized
16:04 < delinquentme> and i saw the retrospect on "the vegas project"  .. your thoughts on "protofection"?
16:06 < kanzure> i think reason@fightaging.org should man up and do the work himself
16:09 < delinquentme> protofection?
16:09 < delinquentme> or was he after funding or something
16:10 < kanzure> he wants to pay other people to write documentation that some other people would maybe choose to look at to maybe one day implement protofection
16:11 < kanzure> he should just use his money and do it... none of this other bullshit. documentation is great, but you should write it as you do the project and figure out what's borked or not
16:14 < delinquentme> ha
16:14 < delinquentme> dig it
16:18 < ybit> ljasdlfkjlksdjf
16:18 < ybit> hey guys
16:18 < kanzure> DON'T DO IT YBIT
16:18 < kanzure> don't kill yourself!
16:18 < kanzure> YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR
16:19  * ybit needs a hangman emoticon
16:19 < kanzure> |------o|---<
16:19 < ybit> <|##
16:19 < ybit> oh, i like yours better
16:20 < ybit> http://pam-face-authentication.org/
16:20 < ybit> someone beat me to it
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16:23 < ybit> http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/108/750/original/foreveraloneflashmob.jpg?1301086848
16:23 < ybit> going on right now
16:32 < ybit> i suspect a lot of those guys will need the hangman emoticon as well
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16:45 < delinquentme> i wanna work at pac biosciences :D
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16:45 < delinquentme> did you see the bloomberg article?!
16:45 < delinquentme> they look so cool with their shades on
16:46 < kanzure> have you read their papers yet?
16:47 < delinquentme> no!
16:47 < delinquentme> i've heard about the process a bit
16:47 < delinquentme> links?
16:48 < ybit> google.com
16:48 < kanzure> uh just look around in http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/polymerase/
16:48 < kanzure> or http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/
16:48 < ybit> or yahoo.com
16:48 < delinquentme> kk deal
16:48 < kanzure> ybit: scholar.google.com is generally more useful for searching for paywalled papers..
16:48 < ybit> yeah :)
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18:31 < kanzure> hi foucist
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18:34 < foucist> hi kanzure
18:34 < foucist> kanzure: know anything about usb hdd enclosures? i just got one and it comes with a y-cable
18:34 < foucist> seems to imply that i can hook up the hdd into 2 usb ports
18:34 < foucist> wondering if that actually speeds things up
18:35 < kanzure> none of my usb hdd enclosures have ever been like that
18:36 < foucist> same, it's weird
18:36 < foucist> it hooks up fine with just 1 usb
18:36 < foucist> heh
18:46  * ybit doesn't have http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=57199
18:46  * ybit wants
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20:01 < thesnark> hey kanzure
20:09 < ybit> I don't recall openFOAM taking this long to compile previously
20:26 < kanzure> hi thesnark
20:26 < kanzure> ybit: yeah it takes forever
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20:50 < kanzure> grr why is trim_patches[0] == None
20:50 < QuantumG> http://moonandback.com/2011/05/13/moonandback-interview-with-charles-pooley-part-1-microlaunchers/
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21:06 < ybit> I want http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/TNB.2003.820283
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21:07 < ybit> sigh, i've downloaded so many similar papers in the past..
21:07  * ybit wants his broken filesystem to unbreak itself
21:08 < QuantumG> I have an external harddrive that regularly dies.. I have to unmount it, disconnect the power, reconnect it and remount it.
21:08 < QuantumG> I've seen it destroy files
21:08 < QuantumG> I don't care.. eat everything on there ya little bastard..
21:12 < ybit> :)
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