--- Log opened Mon May 16 00:00:07 2011 00:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:51 -!- srijan [~srijan@elitter.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- srijan [~srijan@elitter.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:54 -!- srijan4 [~srijan@elitter.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:54 -!- srijan4 is now known as srijan 03:05 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc1-broo1-0-0-cust326.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12 -!- atrus6 [~atrus@72.240.240.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:26 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:47 -!- srijan is now known as srijan4 04:53 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:48 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc1-broo1-0-0-cust326.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:44 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- srijan4 [~srijan@elitter.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 06:51 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc1-broo1-0-0-cust326.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 -!- atrus6 [~atrus@72.240.240.249] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 < kanzure> "steven segal is a transhumanist" http://2045.ru/news/28719.html 08:19 < kanzure> is writing for zdnet a big deal? 08:31 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58 < uniqanomaly> transhumanism in country with authority proposing banning biomedical technologies & writing about those 08:59 < uniqanomaly> sounds like a 'Russian dream', which you have to be asleep to believe in 09:10 < uniqanomaly> one has to be, obviously 09:10 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:35 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 -!- jebba [~jebba@216.17.129.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 < kanzure> more about that directed evolution paper i posted a few days ago: 10:42 < kanzure> http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/05/using-phage-infections-to-force-the-directed-evolution-of-proteins.ars 10:42 < kanzure> "diybio laser microscope" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNtYFVEgq8 10:43 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:44 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:22 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc1-broo1-0-0-cust326.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 12:26 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-100-24.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:48 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-100-24.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 13:14 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32 < kanzure> "if we then added me or Bryan Bishop, it would still be a list (as far as I know) of all straight people" 13:33 < kanzure> haha people speculating on my gender preferences. how cute. 13:49 < uniqanomaly> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/last-chance-let-the-fda-know-why-you-want-direct-access-to-your-own-genome/ 13:49 < uniqanomaly> 2 weeks old i know xD 13:58 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc1-broo1-0-0-cust326.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-100-24.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-100-24.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 15:14 < kanzure> getting access to one of these: 15:14 < kanzure> http://www.perthprecision.com/206okuma/album/slides/DSC_0054.jpg 16:01 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-243.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 16:15 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-113-229.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Client Quit] 16:33 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:35 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has quit [] 16:51 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-113-229.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 16:57 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 < JayDugger> Oh? What does that image show? 17:25 < JayDugger> Never mind. Okuma Multus B400-W 17:48 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-242-202.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 < delinquentme> anyone happen to know if there are "big data" centric IRC channels? 17:49 < JayDugger> I don't know of any, deliquentme. 17:51 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:59 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:00 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://theinfo.org/ 18:00 < kanzure> delinquentme: specifically http://groups.google.com/group/get-theinfo 18:01 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 < kanzure> hi PixelScum 18:03 < delinquentme> kanzure, theinfo.com? 18:04 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05 < kanzure> nope i guess the site is down 18:05 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://groups.google.com/group/get-theinfo 18:06 < delinquentme> sweet! 18:33 < delinquentme> so kanzure with regards to patents .. are there any actionable lawsuits .. if there is no profit made off of the use of the patent? 18:33 < kanzure> i haven't heard of any 18:33 < delinquentme> like if i opensource a design that uses a patented design 18:34 < delinquentme> and people print that shit out individually? 18:34 < kanzure> technically you are infringing a patent if it's not "research" 18:34 < kanzure> (even if you are not making money off of it) 18:36 < ybit> https://code.google.com/p/killerbee/ 18:36 < ybit> Framework and tools for exploiting ZigBee and IEEE 802.15.4 networks 18:44 < delinquentme> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_exemption#Common_law_research_exemption 18:44 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:44 < delinquentme> "Subsequent decisions later distinguished between commercial and non-commercial research" 18:45 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45 < delinquentme> sounds like that fits legitimacy? 19:20 < delinquentme> kanzure a video by the name of "the new biology" by schadt ? 19:35 < kanzure> what? 19:43 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54 < delinquentme> kanzure, its a video / documentary .. apparently its VERy optimistic but i'd be interested to see it 19:55 < delinquentme> googling doesnt seem to return too much 20:12 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-242-202.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:56 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:56 -!- augur [~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:43 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:20 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:31 < augur> can we all just stop talking a moment 22:31 < augur> and consider 22:31 < augur> what will happen to the education system when even light-H+ technology becomes widely available 22:36 < ybit> doom! 22:36 < ybit> 22:36 < ybit> zzzZZZ 22:40 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:14 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:19 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:48 < kanzure> augur: um, what? 23:48 < augur> kanzure: take some very proto-H+ tech, like, say, AR glasses 23:48 < kanzure> well right now lots of students take nootropics but they haven't been smart enough to get out of college 23:49 < augur> in 10 years vid glasses will probably be further along than they are now 23:49 < kanzure> who cares about the "education system" 23:50 < kanzure> let me introduce you to the interwebs 23:50 < augur> well, presumably the education system does 23:50 < kanzure> people generally agree education is important, 23:50 < augur> seeing as how our civilization is built heavily on factory schools, i think its relevant to consider the consequences for this institution 23:51 < kanzure> but blah blah blah 23:51 < kanzure> good night 23:52 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Log closed Tue May 17 00:00:07 2011