--- Log opened Sat May 21 00:00:07 2011 00:12 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:12 -!- mjr [mjr@2001:1bc8:102:60d4:21b:fcff:fe32:5eda] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:10 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:12 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 02:12 < JayDugger> @kanzure, I don't know why O.S.E. keeps ignoring you, but your overwhelming success will eventually force their attention. 02:23 < JayDugger> Yes, that assumption should encourage you. I want my backyard atomic rocket, dammit. 02:43 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc5-cowc6-2-0-cust282.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:23 < QuantumG> aneutronic fusion rocket thanks 04:17 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:21 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-195.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:25 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-88-64.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:28 < JayDugger> I don't like my neighbors that much. 04:28 < JayDugger> But you do have a point. 04:28 < JayDugger> One should keep the spaceport neat and tidy. 04:36 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:54 < foucist> i support this idea of backyard rocket spacesports 04:54 < foucist> how can i help? 04:54 < foucist> guess we need a good reprap first? 04:55 * foucist gets to work on evolving nano reprap 05:14 -!- dbolser [~dmb@bioinformatics.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:45 < kanzure> functional neuroimaging of adhd 05:45 < kanzure> http://www.nitrc.org/plugins/mwiki/index.php/neurobureau:BurnerPipeline 05:45 < kanzure> data: http://www.nitrc.org/frs/downloadlink.php/3417 05:49 < kanzure> it's about 2GB (DARTEL_mwrc1.tar.gz) 05:50 * dbolser sucks up teh MW http://www.nitrc.org/plugins/mwiki/api.php 05:50 < kanzure> http://www.baipatra.ws/ "the automated hydrology search engine" what? 05:51 < kanzure> foucist: you can help by using skdb and yelling at us when it breaks 05:51 < dbolser> bleah: http://www.nitrc.org/plugins/mwiki/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo 05:52 < dbolser> 1.12 ... no good fo rme 05:53 < kanzure> dbolser: complain to Cameron Craddock 05:53 -!- lumos [~lumos@90.205.25.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:53 < kanzure> hi lumos 05:54 < lumos> kanzure, hey 06:14 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:18 < foucist> kanzure: how can i "use" this sk8rdb 06:18 < foucist> aside from complaining about the stupid name.. jk ;P 06:19 < foucist> seriously bro.. for a cool idea, does it need such an obtuse name? :P 06:21 < kanzure> look up in the logs about naming 06:21 < kanzure> if you have a better idea let us know 06:38 < foucist> hardpacman would be funny (i like archlinux) 06:38 < foucist> kanzure: what does skdb actually stand for ? 06:38 < dbolser> kanzure: ty 06:39 < kanzure> foucist: something something something something 06:40 < kanzure> hardpacman is kind of verbose 06:40 < kanzure> smari used to hang out here but then split and made tangiblebit :P 06:40 < kanzure> um, naming doesn't matter as much 06:41 < kanzure> for all these years we have acquired exactly zero new package maintainers 06:42 < kanzure> the other part of the problem is that most hardware projects don't have packages so it requires someone intimately familiar with the project to actually be involved in packaging 06:42 < kanzure> in software projects you have source code, you compile it, and everyone agrees whether or not it compiles 06:42 < kanzure> with hardware there's maybe a few napkins of schematics.. or photos.. somewhere 06:43 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/dremelfuge is an ok example of a working skdb package, but not the best 06:43 < kanzure> screw.git/lego.git are slightly more interesting 06:46 < foucist> kanzure: tangiblebit is a pretty nice name 06:46 < kanzure> yes 06:46 < foucist> lego.git hmm i like that 06:46 < kanzure> the files: 06:46 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/lego 06:47 < foucist> no i meant, as a name 06:47 < foucist> legodb 06:47 < foucist> heh 06:47 < kanzure> it's also the beginnings of a python/lego library 06:48 < foucist> yuck http://tangiblebit.com/ just looks like a placeholder 06:48 < foucist> not active i guess 06:48 < kanzure> see #tangiblebit 06:49 < kanzure> i guess i should put up their git repo 06:49 < kanzure> since it no longer exists (what) 06:51 < kanzure> foucist: if you're interested, it will be uploaded over here in a few minutes: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/tangiblebit 06:53 < kanzure> hmm where did the thingiverse dump go 06:54 < kanzure> foucist: did i tell you the gitduino plans? 06:55 < kanzure> tangiblebit.git is ~170MB it will take longer than "a few minutes" sorry (US consumer broadband..woo) 06:57 < foucist> gitduino eh? sounds interesting 06:57 < foucist> arduino plans? 06:57 < kanzure> no 06:58 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/stl2pov/dremelfuge/305fce14356203666ebffe6141630bd2b8f240c3/dremelfuge-v4.scad-72422eca27.png 06:58 < kanzure> more like thingiverse+git 07:07 < kanzure> Emergence of physiological oscillation frequencies in a computer model of neocortex. 07:07 < kanzure> Neymotin SA, Lee H, Park E, Fenton AA and Lytton WW (2011) 07:07 < kanzure> paper: http://www.frontiersin.org/computational_neuroscience/10.3389/fncom.2011.00019/full 07:07 < kanzure> NEURON model: http://senselab.med.yale.edu/ModelDB/ShowModel.asp?model=138379 07:08 < kanzure> "In this article we simulated a moderately-detailed neuronal network model with detailed wiring 07:08 < kanzure> and found that it was able to reproduce physiological oscillation patterns observed in-vivo. 07:08 < kanzure> Direct comparison of the power spectra with experimentally recorded local field potentials from 07:08 < kanzure> prefrontal cortex of awake rat showed substantial similarities, including comparable patterns of 07:08 < kanzure> cross-frequency coupling." 07:09 < kanzure> that was via: Sam Neymotin 07:15 < kanzure> dbolser: oops. sorry about getting the admin wrong :( 07:18 < dbolser> kanzure: np, meant to cc you originally but forgot 07:22 < kanzure> foucist: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/tangiblebit is done 07:39 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc5-cowc6-2-0-cust282.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:45 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-70-143.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- lumos [~lumos@90.205.25.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44 < kanzure> fightaging.org is trying "pay-per-word" bounties :/ http://50.19.107.57/bounties 09:19 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:04 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-70-143.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:23 -!- lumos [~lumos@90.205.25.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:40 -!- jrabbit [~babyseal@unaffiliated/jrabbit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe13dd00-52.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 < kanzure> i still have to come up with a handful of predictions for that guy 12:03 -!- lumos [~lumos@90.205.25.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:26 < Utopiah> http://datadryad.org/depositing CC0 data repository for biosciences (~600 packages) 12:31 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:33 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:05 -!- devrandom [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:22 -!- devrandom1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:22 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:24 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:25 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:30 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:32 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:33 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:35 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@h-67-102-186-198.phlapafg.static.covad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 < delinquentme> getting my wisdom teeth FROZEN! 13:36 < delinquentme> a bit excited 13:36 < delinquentme> +1 biohacker 13:38 < ybit> delinquentme: that's pretty neat 13:38 < ybit> how'd you manage this? 13:39 < delinquentme> ybit, available service haha 13:39 < delinquentme> they've got apparently a p... 13:39 < delinquentme> *googles stemsave* 13:40 < delinquentme> Hmmmm well they said they had a patented cryo container 13:40 < delinquentme> i get them yanked .. and im actually excited about it hahah 13:41 * ybit needs wisdom teeth yanked as well 13:41 * ybit isn't too excited about it though :) 13:41 < ybit> mostly because there isn't something to brag about like, having them frozen and shipped to the moon 13:42 < delinquentme> ybit, id check em out man ! 13:42 < delinquentme> they mail the ortho a container 13:42 < ybit> when i can't chew my snickers bar, i'll look into it 13:42 < delinquentme> LOL 13:44 -!- mayko [~mayko@71-22-217-151.gar.clearwire-wmx.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 13:48 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:20 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@h-67-102-186-198.phlapafg.static.covad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:20 < kanzure> strages: going to isdc? 14:24 -!- devrandom1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:06 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 15:15 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@h-67-102-186-198.phlapafg.static.covad.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 < delinquentme> kanzure, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/287/5461/2196.long << got this guy? 15:19 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 < kanzure> no, can you link me to the abstract first? 15:32 < delinquentme> lemme see if i can dig the link back up .. it was a paper on AMOS 15:39 -!- CryptoQuick [~CryptoQui@c-174-51-232-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-24-20-202-138.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-195.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly_] 16:13 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.35] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:17 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@h-67-102-186-198.phlapafg.static.covad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:26 < JayDugger> Good afternoon, everyone. 16:41 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:03 -!- ENKI-][ [~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:12 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:13 < ybit> kanzure: do you have ISO 10303-42, Geometric and topological representation, by chance? 17:20 < kanzure> yawn not necessary 17:20 < ybit> why 17:20 < ybit> i want 17:20 < kanzure> no you don't 17:20 < kanzure> get back to work 17:20 < ybit> i are try to work 17:20 < ybit> i are want distraction 17:21 < kanzure> then go get an EXPRESS compiler working 17:21 < ybit> :'( 17:21 < ybit> why is it not necessary? 17:22 < ybit> because we has internets? 17:22 < ybit> and there's plenty of other documentation?... 17:22 < kanzure> because 10303-42 is not used anywhere 17:23 < ybit> 308CHF for that doc, fml 17:24 < kanzure> ? 17:24 < kanzure> why would you want it 17:24 < ybit> http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=37846 17:24 < ybit> i want to read it 17:24 < ybit> i don't know hy 17:24 < ybit> why* 17:24 < ybit> it seems important 17:25 < kanzure> so you're just doing things because..? 17:26 < ybit> i ask that question often, but get nowhere 17:27 < kanzure> do you want something to do? 17:27 < JayDugger> If so, how much do you charge? 17:31 < ybit> gitduino is something to do 17:31 < ybit> i'll get to it soon enough 17:31 < kanzure> if you wanted to do gitduino you should just write a gem for gitorious 17:32 < ybit> noted 18:17 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving."] 18:20 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 < ybit> someone please use your hax0r skills to get me a username and password to http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/ 18:53 < kanzure> yeah i have one 18:53 < kanzure> try kanzure/tc184sc4 18:54 < kanzure> also you can break into their mailing lists (they call it "exploder lists") 18:55 < kanzure> but it's really boring email discussion and i don't know how these people ever end up getting anything done 18:55 < kanzure> (like, do these people even know the full toolchain going on here?) 18:55 < kanzure> side-effect is that i don't know how to filter out their emails from my inbox now 18:55 < kanzure> because they aren't sent from a specific address but instead by individuals and it seems to be intercepted mid-flight and bcc'd to me 18:56 < ybit> kanzure/tc184sc4 doesn't work :) 18:57 < ybit> Warning: best check yo credentials.. 18:57 < ybit> is what it says 18:57 < kanzure> it says "yo credentials"? really? 18:57 < ybit> along those lines 18:57 < kanzure> anyway if you look closely there are some documents that are publicly available, 18:57 < ybit> yeah, i did 18:57 < kanzure> and if you modify the url you can access the other documents without logging in 18:57 < ybit> but the good stuff is locked away 18:58 < ybit> i don't know how to modify the url so that i can access these docs 18:58 < kanzure> ok one sec 18:59 < kanzure> wget http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt 18:59 < kanzure> wget -i ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt 19:00 < kanzure> here are the files that will download: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/ng-tc184-sc4-files.txt 19:01 < ybit> how did you get that? 19:01 < ybit> wget -i http://ng.tc184-sc4.org or something...? 19:01 < kanzure> oops. download that last one again (i've re-sorted it so that the line number roughly corresponds to the ID number in the other file if you want to go spelunking) 19:02 < kanzure> wget -i just means "download each file listed in this file" 19:02 < ybit> oh 19:02 < ybit> so how'd you get the list of docs? 19:02 < ybit> i was googling around for just this earler 19:02 < ybit> earlier 19:02 < kanzure> http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=3256 19:02 < kanzure> http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=3257 19:02 < kanzure> http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=3258 19:02 < kanzure> this isn't a hard pattern to guess 19:02 < kanzure> the ID number is just monotonically increasing 19:03 < ybit> STEP is er.. like ID 39 19:03 < ybit> iirc 19:03 < kanzure> no these ID numbers are just random 19:04 < kanzure> hmm actually ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt is incomplete 19:04 < ybit> ..from reading the source of a cfm file somewhere on their site 19:04 < kanzure> basically i did 0 to 70000 but i'm pretty sure i only got 3298 files in the end (however, lots of id numbers had nothing) 19:05 < kanzure> no.. just by looking at the url in my browser :P 19:05 < kanzure> cfm is coldfusion and parsed on the server-side so you can't read their server-side code really 19:06 < kanzure> btw you might also be interested in: 19:06 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/tc184-sc4-links-more.txt 19:07 < ybit> http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/index.cfm?PID=98&FID=50192 19:07 < kanzure> hah oh man i forgot about this http://locke.dcnicn.com/bugzilla/iso10303 19:08 < kanzure> ybit: yeah, i don't remember if FID is 1-to-1 with the ID= parameter on FileDownloadInclude.cfm 19:08 < ybit> PopMenu1_8_1=new Array('ISO 10303 (STEP)','http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/index.cfm?PID=48', 19:08 < ybit> it was id 48, my bad 19:09 < kanzure> but again those 4000~ files are more than you will ever need ...or want 19:09 < ybit> um.. how did you get that list again? 19:10 < kanzure> wget -i ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt; ls -l > ng-tc184-sc4-files.txt; scp -p ng-tc184-sc4-files.txt bryan@gnusha.org:~/public_html/irc/ 19:10 < ybit> i meant you personally 19:12 < kanzure> for x in {0..70000}; do echo "http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=$x" >> ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt; done 19:12 < ybit> http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/2004-09-07-ISOTC-184SC-4-MONTHLY-NOTIFICATION-OF-PROJECTS_AT_RISK.htm 404s (just some random file) 19:12 < ybit> oh 19:12 < kanzure> then "wget -i.." downloads all of the files 19:13 < ybit> oh 19:13 < ybit> guess i've got some raping to do 19:15 < kanzure> ybit: there's also some more files here: 19:16 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/alvarestech.com/temp/0steptools/ 19:16 < kanzure> tell me when you're done with that so i can move it back to wherever 19:21 < kanzure> you also need tunes while hacking away: http://www.di.fm/mp3/vocaltrance.pls 19:38 < QuantumG> and despite all my rage I am still just a rate in cage. 19:38 < QuantumG> rat* 19:38 < QuantumG> fail 19:40 < kanzure> hm? 19:40 < QuantumG> coffee, it's not as strong as meth-amphetamines but you get to keep your teeth 19:41 < kanzure> QuantumG: you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMwZbcSdzc#t=35 ? 19:43 < QuantumG> I love all the alternate lyrics in the comment section 19:45 < kanzure> what brought that up anyway 19:46 < QuantumG> hmm.. let me think back.. I'm watching all the Freeman's Mind videos and he said something like "I'm just a rat in a maze" 19:47 < kanzure> ok. because i watched that video for the first time like, yesterday 19:47 < kanzure> and still roughly knew the offset :/ 19:56 < kanzure> QuantumG: would you be interested in http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=trkanzure perhaps 19:56 < QuantumG> nah, but thanks 19:57 < kanzure> :'( 20:05 < ybit> kanzure, little of interest from that fetch 20:06 < ybit> fetching the 0steptools stuff now 20:07 < ybit> one of those mentions some type of interface with java for express 20:08 < ybit> there she is: FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=3432 20:08 < ybit> ISO/CD 10303-27 20:08 < ybit> Standard title: Product data representation and exchange: Java programming language binding to the standard data access interface with Internet/Intranet extensions 20:08 < ybit> ABSTRACT: This document specifies a binding of the Java programming language to application data modeled in EXPRESS and to the standard data access interface, ISO 10303-22. 20:10 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:11 < kanzure> sure.. or just use osexpress.sf.net 20:12 < kanzure> also some of the links i've given you are to .jar files that contain express parsers/compilers 20:12 < kanzure> or implementations of the sdai libraries 20:42 < ybit> ugh, this is disappointing 20:48 < kanzure> sup? 20:52 < ybit> don't have any of the docs wanted, and i'm starting to not care for STEP 20:52 < ybit> screw a standard that isn't free 20:52 < kanzure> what docs do you want specifically 20:53 < kanzure> AP203 and AP214 are really the only parts of the standard that matter 20:53 < ybit> i want to read ISO 10303-42 20:53 < kanzure> whyyyy 20:53 < kanzure> i don't understand 20:54 < ybit> it tells you how to represent geometric shapes in STEP 20:54 < kanzure> no AP203 does that 20:54 < ybit> SO 10303-42:2003 specifies the resource constructs for the explicit geometric and topological representation of the shape of a product 20:54 < ybit> from http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=37846 20:54 < kanzure> yeah.. there's tons of redundancy 20:54 < kanzure> but really, nobody uses 10303-42 20:55 < kanzure> i guarantee that the definition is exactly the same as the geometry subset of AP203 20:55 < ybit> hrm 20:55 < ybit> i'll look for 203 20:55 < kanzure> btw i have 15531-42 if that would satisfy you :P 20:56 < kanzure> ybit: i've given you that 20:56 < kanzure> at least yesterday 20:56 < ybit> Recommended Practices for AP 203 20:56 < ybit> i think that's the one 20:56 < kanzure> well .. no 20:56 < kanzure> AP203.expr is what you want 20:56 < ybit> grumble 20:56 < kanzure> but if you want something to read (like in English) then Recommended Practices, sure 20:56 < kanzure> .exp actually? 20:57 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/step/ 20:57 < kanzure> here: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/step/10303-203-aim-long.exp 20:57 < kanzure> and: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/step/part203.exp 20:57 < ybit> AP203E2_November_2008.exp AP203E2_November_2008_Shortnames.txt AP203E2_September_2007.exp 20:57 < ybit> one of those 20:57 < kanzure> and: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/step/p214unx.exp 20:57 < ybit> i'm going nov/2008 20:57 < ybit> +with 20:58 < kanzure> AP203/AP214 are the two that are implemented (separately?) by Solidworks 20:58 < kanzure> and i think opencascade does at least AP203 20:59 * kanzure is moving the other files into ~/bryan/irc/step/ from earlier tonight in case anyone goes looking for them 21:28 < ybit> http://pdesinc.aticorp.org/ 21:28 < ybit> looks like i need to become a member of this just to get access to PDFs 21:28 -!- devrandom1 [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:28 < ybit> here goes.. 21:31 < ybit> email sent to becky imhoff 21:32 < ybit> error 550 o.O 21:33 < kanzure> for http://pdesinc.aticorp.org/downloadable_files/STEPapplicationhandbook63006BF.pdf ? 21:34 < ybit> nope 21:34 < ybit> i want all the docs 21:35 < ybit> also 21:35 < ybit> http://www.uspro.org/documents/IGES5-3_forDownload.pdf 21:35 < ybit> that's how it should be 21:35 < ybit> that's the IGES spec 21:35 < kanzure> IGES docs are easily available.. 21:43 < ybit> for x in {0..70000}; do echo "http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=$x" >> ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt; done 21:44 < kanzure> sup? 21:46 < ybit> was about to say something, but i'll refrain 21:46 < kanzure> go ahead 21:46 < ybit> figuring out how you retrieved those files 21:46 < kanzure> make sense yet? 21:46 -!- Drakkar [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 < ybit> ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt has files from 3256 to 70000 21:47 < ybit> if that's true, it has file listings of 66744 docs 21:48 < kanzure> for some reason i paused the downloads at 3256 and wanted to continue 21:48 < kanzure> so i took out the first 3255 21:48 < kanzure> there's really not 66744 docs on their site 21:48 < ybit> :) 21:48 < kanzure> since i don't know the real id numbers, i just guessed 21:48 < kanzure> and i was right 21:49 < ybit> how did you retrieve the files? 21:49 < kanzure> wget -i ng-tc184-sc4-downloader.url.txt 21:49 < ybit> wget "http://ng.tc184-sc4.org/FileDownloadInclude.cfm?Type=D&ID=3256" fails..hrm.. lemme try 21:49 < kanzure> how does it fail? 21:49 < ybit> that works 21:50 < kanzure> if it's a 404 then that just means that id doesn't correspond to a file 21:50 < ybit> it has to do with the name not having a backslash or %20 i'm guessing 21:50 < kanzure> wut 21:50 < kanzure> anyway, you should start with n=0 and work up to n=70000 if you want to make sure you get as much as you can 21:51 < ybit> oh, i know what was happening i needed to use my custom grab command instead of wget 21:52 < kanzure> you might have to spoof a user agent with --user-agent="motherfucker" or something 21:52 < ybit> right 21:52 < ybit> alias "grab"="wget -e robots=off --no-parent --random-wait --user-agent='Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv: 1.9.0.3) Gecko/200809216 Firefox/3.0.3'" 21:53 < kanzure> maybe a slightly more recent user agent string would be appropriate for your alias :) 21:53 < ybit> heh, yeah :) 22:30 < foucist> ybit: just put that in your .wgetrc file 22:30 < foucist> i used to overload my aliases like that 22:30 < foucist> now i just have .wgetrc, .mplayer etc 22:30 < foucist> i throw them all in .dotfiles/ and symlink them 22:30 < foucist> and put .dotfiles under git 22:41 < kanzure> g'night 22:53 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:34 -!- nsh- [~nsh@cpc5-cowc6-2-0-cust282.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:39 -!- alystair [Alystair@24-246-14-18.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- eridu [debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Log closed Sun May 22 00:00:07 2011