--- Log opened Mon May 30 00:00:07 2011 00:43 < kanzure> http://www.stanford.edu/~gwalton/home/Publications_files/Job,%20Dweck,%20%26%20Walton,%202010.pdf 00:44 < kanzure> "Much recent research suggest that willpower-- the capacity to exert self-control-- is a limited resource that is depleted after exertion." 00:44 < kanzure> "We propose that whether depletion takes place or not depends on a person's belief about whether willpower is a limited resource." 00:44 < kanzure> say what now 00:45 < kanzure> i guess this is the most direct way to tell someone that their belief in willpower is bullshit 00:46 < kanzure> (i'm not sure if i have ever known someone to believe they had unlimited/infinite willpower who was also able to back it up with physical results) 00:46 < Utopiah> guess that's a strict proof for The Secret (morning humour warning) 00:46 < kanzure> s/physical/actual/ digital counts 00:51 < delinquentme_> kanzure, so i've dled a harvard review on business 00:52 < delinquentme_> and they've got findings akin to that 00:52 < kanzure> i am sleeping 00:52 < delinquentme_> the title is "manage your energy .. not your time" 00:52 < delinquentme_> sleep? ^^^^ 00:52 < delinquentme_> gj 00:53 < ybit> delinquentme_: linkage appreciated 00:54 < kanzure> i continue to find all of these theories of mental energy and willpower and self-control to be very lame 00:54 < kanzure> and insufficient. 00:54 < kanzure> so i wouldn't take much stock in them. 00:54 * kanzure goes back to sleep 00:56 < delinquentme_> thereeee we go 00:56 < delinquentme_> http://www.smith.edu/smp/resource-center/articles/Manage%20Your%20Energy%20Not%20Your%20Time.pdf 00:56 < delinquentme_> if it works for you use it 00:56 < delinquentme_> if it doesnt 00:56 < delinquentme_> dont 00:56 < delinquentme_> "pragmatism" 00:56 < kanzure> that's a load of fucking shit, either they made a good study about the brain or they didn't 00:58 < kanzure> autistics.org/library/inertia.html has been taken down 00:58 < kanzure> backup: http://web.archive.org/web/20080725172551/http://www.autistics.org/library/inertia.html 01:09 < delinquentme_> ??? 01:09 < delinquentme_> nm 01:10 < delinquentme_> lol 01:35 -!- delinquentme_ [~delinquen@c-76-125-246-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:40 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-212-25.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:41 < jrayhawk> There are a lot of hormonal and energy factors that could be loosely thought of as 'willpower' being 'used up' 02:44 < jrayhawk> But, yes, 'will' is generally a label used in agency-oriented thought processes rather than rational thought processes and, as a result, gets associated with all manner of magical thinking. 02:46 < jrayhawk> It has plenty of semantic value in its ability to import rational concepts to nonrational minds, so it's actually fairly impulsive and ignorant to declare it worthless. 02:48 < jrayhawk> I guess I should start using 'idea-oriented' rather than 'rational' 02:49 < jrayhawk> since 'rational' and 'irrational' and 'nonrational' have unpredictable value implications 05:33 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-43.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 < kanzure> Scientific alternatives to the anthropic principle http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0407/0407213v3.pdf 07:21 < kanzure> hooray for lee 07:21 < kanzure> (lee smolin) 07:22 < kanzure> jrayhawk: but none of that helps elucidiate whether or not there is an actual physical basis to 'willpower' in any useful sense 07:22 < kanzure> hormonal levels is like saying "chemical levels" 07:23 < kanzure> also, a fluorescent nanotube dye for imaging: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-05/su-bvt052711.php 08:56 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:01 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-78.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:42 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-78.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- makers [~makers@c-71-207-221-57.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:02 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-246-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 < delinquentme> dissolves hot glue? 13:02 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:13 -!- panax [panax@131.247.13.196] has quit [] 13:13 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-246-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:25 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-246-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- jrayhawk_ [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:29 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29 -!- Tyrant [freenode@s83.seattle.pd.wastate.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:29 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:33 -!- jrayhawk_ is now known as jrayhawk 14:43 -!- devrandom1 [~niftyzero@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-78.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 -!- panax [~panax@cpe-72-185-51-10.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:51 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-106-78.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56 < fenn> interesting that modafinil.com is owned by david pearce 15:57 < fenn> one would have expected cephalon to file some trademark something or other, but maybe they prefer all the 'unofficial' info 15:58 < fenn> according to some anecdotal articles i've read, modafinil is basically synthetic willpower :\ 16:01 -!- sixyearolds [~lumos@92.20.169.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-76-125-246-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46 -!- genehacker [~androirc@209.117.47.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:51 -!- genehacker [~androirc@209.117.47.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:42 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-212-25.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 18:11 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-6-211.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:25 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-6-211.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37 < kanzure> fenn: david pearce owns a lot of domains.. http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/david-pearce-domains.url.txt 18:40 < kanzure> prioritarianism.com <-- what? 18:41 < kanzure> primates.com.. 18:43 < kanzure> amphetamines.com, aniracetam.com, anticopyright.com, antidepressants.com, antiparticles.com, aye-aye.org, bayesianism.com 18:44 < ybit> i'm letting all my domains expire 18:44 < ybit> humcie.com|org, sealab.info, tweaklabs.org, jsfanboy.com, and other crap i can't remember 18:45 < ybit> git ftw 18:45 < ybit> or mercurial 18:45 < ybit> or darcs 18:46 < kanzure> betaprotein.com, betapeptide.com, biotech.mobi, bloodsports.com, carnivorism.com, catecholamine.com, chrosome$N.com, cocaine.org, cognitive-enhancement.com, cognitive-enhancers.com, conservativism.com, cryobiology.com 18:50 < kanzure> desoxymethyltestosterone.com, ecodrug.com, elata.org (yes), embraceunity.com (him too..), entitlement.org, facebookhacker.com, germ-line.com, gigantism.com, giraffes.org, hampshire.com 18:52 < kanzure> hedonsim.org, helicase.com, hex-on.com, hydrocodone.org, hypermasculinity.com, ie7.com, ieet.org, industrialism.com, jetpress.org, kangaroos.org, 18:56 < kanzure> memcp.com, monoamine.com, moodfoods.com, moodgenes.com, myoglobin.com, neurobiology.com, neurochip.com, nootropics.com (<---), opium.biz, oxytocin.org, 18:59 < kanzure> pathophysiology.com, porche911.ro (what?), prices.jp, psychedelics.com, ptur.com, rm.org (<---), 19:00 < kanzure> transhumanism.com/.net/.org, tyrannosaurid.com, yottaflop.org 19:00 < kanzure> those are the relatively interesting entries 19:01 -!- BaldimerBrandybo [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 < kanzure> hmm interesting some of these don't have whois records 19:02 < kanzure> maybe these are just the sites he's hosting 19:04 -!- PixelScum [~PixelScum@ip98-177-175-88.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:15 < QuantumG> if you watch one video about space this week, watch this one. Watch the whole thing: http://bit.ly/ld1BQp 19:23 < ybit> QuantumG: what if i watch one space video this year, is it worth it? ;) 19:23 < QuantumG> yup 19:34 < JayDugger> ybit, yes. 19:35 < JayDugger> QuantumG--what's the origin of Greason's quote at 12' or so, the "fields of Pellinor" and the "the enemy in the East"? 19:36 < QuantumG> I didn't get it either.. 19:39 < kanzure> it's been 2 years since my dad passed away and i'm still finding extra IRA accounts all over the place 19:39 < kanzure> .. and other instruments that i haven't ever used 19:40 < kanzure> it's strange. 19:40 < JayDugger> Found it, it comes from Tolkien's "Return of the King," and it refers to a tactical victory that lacks strategic effect. 19:41 < JayDugger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Pelennor_Fields 19:41 < JayDugger> My sympathies, Kanzure. 19:41 < JayDugger> That must be awkward and inconvenient. I dread doing the same for my parents. 19:42 < kanzure> there are legal issues popping up (possibly stolen money, etc. etc.) that i might have to go fight in court 19:43 < JayDugger> Gack...even worse. 19:44 < JayDugger> I hope it ends well for your family and for you. 19:45 < QuantumG> JayDugger: oh, that's why I wouldn't get it :P 19:47 < kanzure> i don't really understand the point of having multiple schwab/etrade/ameritrade/fidelity accounts 19:50 < kanzure> i'm also not sure how to get to the part where i own dwave's ass 19:52 -!- benjaminpeterson [~benjaminp@oki-180-131-218-211.jpns.spearpt.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- benjaminpeterson is now known as wrldpc 19:53 < wrldpc> Helloooo... 19:53 < wrldpc> Soo .. anyone know how to restore a bricked iphone 4 that says "could not be restarted. this device isn't eligible for the requested build" ... 19:58 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:01 < JayDugger> No idea, wrldpc. 20:03 < wrldpc> lulz 20:03 < wrldpc> Apple is lulz. 20:04 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:05 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:17 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:21 < kanzure> gah the executor missed an entire etrade account 20:32 < kanzure> other investments: nantero, mersana therapeutics, neophotonics corp, nanotechnologies inc., optiva, nanootpo corp, polatis, agile materials and technologies, nanosys, nanogram devices, nanogram corp, chlorogen, neophotonics, molecular imprints, starfire systems, cswitch, crystal is, cambrios, solazyme, nextreme thermal solutions, nanomix,zia laser, kereos, bridgelux, kovio, metabolon, evolved nanomaterials sciences, dwave, innovalight, sionyx, xrad 20:32 < kanzure> hmmm 20:32 < kanzure> *nanoopto 20:42 < kanzure> tarzan_and_the_green_goddess_256kb.mp4 20:42 < kanzure> O_o 20:42 < kanzure> The_Phantom_Planet.mp4 20:44 < bkero> wrldpc: DFU 21:14 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:21 -!- sixyearolds [~lumos@92.20.169.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:11 < jrayhawk> I feel bad ecause I don't have those --- Log closed Tue May 31 00:00:07 2011