--- Log opened Sat Jun 11 00:00:07 2011
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01:31 < Juul> hey kanzure
01:38 < Utopiah> so QSParis was a tiny advertisement salon for quantifying startups, not a barCamp nor sharing experience, disappointing
01:45 < fenn> bay area QS meetup now has the rule that if you're selling something, you can't give a presentation
01:46 < fenn> is anyone in paris actually doing anything interesting enough to talk about?
01:47 < Utopiah> the regret precisely is that I dont know
01:48 < Utopiah> (and that it wasn't announced like that)
01:54 < Utopiah> http://passageenseine.org and overall http://www.tmplab.org is more where the new stuff is made but also much less popular
02:13 < fenn> well don't whine at us, whine at the qsparis organizer
02:13 < fenn> i call this strategy "
02:13 < fenn> "directed whining"
02:29 < Utopiah> my bad if it sounded like whining, just sharing how it goes somewhere else
02:30 < Juul> wtf
02:30 < Juul> there was just a mail on my hackerspace's mailinglist stating that someone can't exit the space
02:31 < Juul> like it's no big deal
02:34 < Utopiah> can't he hack his way out? a learning challenge
02:34 < Juul> hehe
02:34 < Juul> maybe he stayed for too long and ate too much pizza and is now too fat to exit
02:35 < Juul> it's a real danger
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06:08 < kanzure> "It is my thesis that a septuagenerian in very robust health can, in 2011, reverse his/her ageing status markedly (...i.e., by decades...) if he/she reads the literature and devises a huge mixed bag of safe, simple protocols to address the key 'defects' of signalling in ageing."
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07:10 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/patents/
07:10 < kanzure> hmm
07:13 < kanzure> http://www.colonycount.org/releases/android/ColonyCount_beta_b1.apk
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07:27 < Lucas_> Good morning
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07:51 < Lucas_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hupHAPF1fHY something for the uploading people to watch
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07:56 < kanzure> what? that's just ed boyden's optogenetics stuff
07:56 < kanzure> what i find slightly more surprising is that ed claims that was posted in may
07:56 < kanzure> i'm p. sure there was another ted talk he did that was floating around.. much earlier than may 2011
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09:12 < kanzure> Argyroneta aquatica: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDt-6UIwPo#t=430
09:12 < kanzure> about: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/06/spiders.html
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09:48 < kanzure> what is this crap? http://www.bridgeplan.org/?page_id=46
09:48 < kanzure> it's something that stephen coles is peddling for seniors related to longevity..
09:49 < kanzure> but it seems very amateurish :/
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10:05 < kanzure> http://stembook.org/ (stem cells)
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10:39 < kanzure> heh tyler has been filing his patents with wipo.int instead of uspto
10:39 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/patents/Devices%20and%20methods%20for%20modulating%20brain%20activity%20-%20Tyler%20-%202011.pdf
10:40 < kanzure> ""The devices are used to provide ultrasound waves to brain structures in a subject wearing a device for methods to treat traumatic brain injury, affect postural control, affect wakefulness, attention, and alertness, to provide memory control, to alter cerebrovascular hemodynamics, to minimize stress, and to reinforce behavioral actions."
10:42 < kanzure> 'gas matrix piezoelectric transducers'
10:43 < kanzure> ah he is calling it a 'brain regulation interface'
10:49 < kanzure> '"The present invention comprises methods for low-intensity (< 500 mW/cm^2), low-frequency ultrasound (< 0.9 MHz) and effects on cellular modulation, such as methods for influencing neuronal activity."
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10:50 < kanzure> "The brain activity may be increased or decreased by the action of at least the ultrasound waves, which may include increasing or decreasing neuron firing, receptivity, release or uptake of neurhormones, neurotransmitters or neuromodulators, increase or decrease gene transcription, protein translation or protein phosphorylation or cell traffickign of proteins or mRNA, or affect the activity of other brain cell or structure activity."
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12:00 < kanzure> gah how queer he uses an ipad as an example
12:13 < kanzure> "The baseline failure rate in obtaining US-evoked motor responses was <5% when multiple stimulus trials were repeated once every 4-10s for time periods up to 50min."
12:21 < kanzure> neat, acoustic hyperlenses
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12:47 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/tylerlab-opening.txt
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14:11 < kanzure> http://vbi.adobeconnect.com/tyler-1018 :(
14:36 < kanzure> hey how do i lookup REDCOM grant W911NF-09-0431?
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15:00 < kanzure> "DARPA Novel Neural Interface Workshop" sounds entertaining
15:00 < kanzure> http://synapticnulship.com/blog/2011/03/02/fiber-optic-neural-interfaces-tests-to-begin-soon/
15:02 < kanzure> i guess that's this:
15:02 < kanzure> https://safe.sysplan.com/renet/index.cgi
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15:57 < kanzure> i can't stand reason@fightaging.or'gs nikcname
15:57 < kanzure> nickname
15:57 < kanzure> what would be a reasonable alternative to call him?
16:03 < kanzure> random aging reading material today: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bryanstufftoread/
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17:49 < kanzure> hah i forgot about this one
17:49 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/Temporal%20change%20in%20bimanual%20interkeypress%20intervals%20and%20self-reported%20symptoms%20during%20continuous%20typing.pdf
17:49 < kanzure> gettin' scientific about my typing
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18:21 < kanzure> i've been reorganizing the papers dir, comments appreciated
18:21 < kanzure> mostly stuff has been moved into
18:22 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/
18:22 < kanzure> and http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/
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20:00 < kanzure> haha cypherphunks in the news http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/10/wikileaks.journalism/
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20:45 < JayDugger> kanzure, you mostly omit dates and authors from the filenames in papers/ and papers2/.
20:45 < JayDugger> Do you use another program, such as Mendeley (sp?) or Zotero to organize them?
20:46 < JayDugger> As for reason@fightaging.org, you could call him by his real name.
21:07 < JayDugger> Todd Huffman's tattoo...http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/5717076179/in/photostream
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21:16 < kanzure> no, mendeley is mostly useless to me
21:16 < kanzure> JayDugger: reason@fightaging.org is a horrible name and i refuse to call him that
21:17 < kanzure> i don't use zotero except for some .bib files if you want those.. but it's not exhaustive
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21:20 < JayDugger> Have you tried organizing papers with filename in a format that includes authors and dates? E.g., <SURNAME>, <INITIAL> - <TITLE> - <YYYY>
21:23 < kanzure> sure.. in some cases. why?
21:23 < kanzure> mendeley would be useful to me if they actually gave me code for converting a given pdf file into a doi object
21:23 < kanzure> but they don't. and it makes me angry.
21:27 < kanzure> fenn: a new one on NF-κB http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bryanstufftoread/NF-%CE%BAB%20Signaling%20in%20the%20Aging%20Process.pdf
21:27 < JayDugger> I've found that file name format generally useful.
21:27 < kanzure> by 'new' i mean 'new to me'
21:27 < JayDugger> I wonder if you've a good reason to avoid it.
21:31 < kanzure> because a script to keep track of DOI number of each md5 hash is a better scheme, but i haven't figured out how to do that yet 'cept manually
21:31 < kanzure> and manually renaming files isn't significantly better than doi metadata
21:33 < JayDugger> What do you do with documents that lack DOI metadata?
21:33 < kanzure> there's usually a doi number for all documents these days
21:34 < JayDugger> What's the DOI number for the latest issue of my favorite comic book? I think that will make an exception, but I'll be really interested if not.
21:34 < kanzure> i don't think your comic book is in my collection
21:34 < kanzure> of papers.
21:36 < JayDugger> Your collection omits it. I don't think DOI's help outside the domain of scientific papers. Your comment "usually a doi number for all documents these days" made me question that assumption.
21:37 < kanzure> i thought were were talking about my /papers2 collection
21:39 < JayDugger> We do. I wanted to learn if you used a significantly better organizing scheme or tool than the file naming convention I use for most documents. (Which works, sort of, for most things, but takes lots of effort.)
21:40 < JayDugger> I hoped the leading questions would avoid a preachy tone on my part.
21:53 < QuantumG> hmm http://www.molecularassembler.com/Papers/TarasovFeb2011.pdf
21:53 < QuantumG> "Robert A. Freitas, acknowledges private grant support for this work from the Life Extension Foundation, the Kurzweil Foundation, and the Institute for Molecular Manufacturing."
21:56 < kanzure> LEF rarely gives more than $15k at a time
21:56 < kanzure> i've never seen ray give more than $10k to anything
21:56 < kanzure> IMM has under $200k/year
21:56 < kanzure> so.. there's your numbers.
21:56 < QuantumG> I'm sure his PhD candidates also have their own grants and scholarships.
21:57 < QuantumG> its a fun slow grind
21:57 < kanzure> actually, i wonder if 'kurzweil foundation' is different from kurzweilai llc
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22:38 < mrtrousers> Hello, how does it work?
22:39 < mrtrousers> apt-get pearl gel box?
22:39 < mrtrousers> apt-get openpcr?
22:39 < mrtrousers> ;)
22:41 < kanzure> something like that yes
22:42 < kanzure> i don't remember where tito put jonathan cline's power schematics
22:42 < kanzure> but it's basically just an svg file of a rectangle
22:42 < kanzure> dremelfuge.git is available in skdb
22:42 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit
22:42 < kanzure> um, and a few others
22:42 < kanzure> openpcr recently and finally released their files so it could be packaged up i guess
22:47 < mrtrousers> So you get the design, bill of materials and build it yourself?
22:47 < mrtrousers> The dremelfuge you print, but the other stuff.. You build?
22:56 < mrtrousers> What you guys thing of this kit: http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3766438?
22:57 < mrtrousers> This one I mean: http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3766438
22:59  * kanzure sleeps
22:59 < kanzure> someone else can field your questions
23:00 < mrtrousers> Was hoping that..
23:03 < mrtrousers> skdb-get is not working..
23:09 < mrtrousers> I get an error in line 12 that says import skdb?
23:13 < mrtrousers> The script is failing due to import skdb from import settings..
23:14 < mrtrousers> Wich file do I need to modify?
23:16 < mrtrousers> Is the config.yaml ready to go just downloaded from the web?
23:16 < mrtrousers> Come on guys.. Someone?
23:16 < mrtrousers> It does say this is skdb irc..
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23:26 < kanzure> mrtrousers: most of us are sleeping
23:27 < kanzure> you probably need to install the skdb python package from the instructions
23:27 < QuantumG> and I've just never been helpful :)
23:27 < kanzure> but, really, it just clones git repositories
23:27 < kanzure> so git clone git://diyhpl.us/dremelfuge.git if you want it
23:28 < mrtrousers> Ok, but i want to navigate all the diferent stuff in the skdb..
23:28 < mrtrousers> Its a really interesting project
23:33 < kanzure> you can poke around here:
23:33 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb
23:33 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/
23:34 < kanzure> <--- dream2irc gateway
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23:35 < mrtrousers> So you really think one day well do apt-get something and the stuff to make it will automatically be sent to your house?
23:35 < mrtrousers> It be so fucking A! And would save lots of time
23:37 < mayko> until someone invents an IRL virus and then you accidentally apt-get morgellons :(
23:38 < mayko> one time i was asked to apt-get install apt-get
23:39 < Juul> you know, apt-get has actually been deprecated for a while now
23:39 < Juul> aptitude is the new hotness
23:43 < Juul> for debian that is
23:43 < Juul> Ubuntu may be a different story
23:44 < mayko> sometimes i cant take the heat and so i stay out of the kitchen
23:45 < mayko> though i did have too much self respect to apt-get itself lol
23:49 < Juul> hm
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