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05:06 < Lucas_> Good morning
05:12 < Lucas_> I finally have enough money for magnets!
05:14 < archels> fuck yeah magnets.
05:14 < Lucas_> :D
05:15 < Lucas_> now I just have to figure out where I want them.  I don't want to get the implant and find out I'd never be able to do parkour again
05:17 < archels> Do I recall this being part of some grander scheme, to have modular sensory extensions or somesuch?
05:18 < archels> Or was that someone else.
05:20 < Lucas_> we are a part of the same group
05:20 < Lucas_> but for now I just want to test out "magnetic sensing" to see if it is bunk or not
05:26 < archels> It's not bunk, but one might say it's not very useful either.
05:26 < Lucas_> Is the range too small?
05:26 < archels> Well, you can't feel e.g. the earth's magnetic field.
05:27 < archels> You'll get some vibrations walking through those security gates in stores.
05:27 < archels> Also holding your hand near transformers and electric motors.
05:31 < Lucas_> please correct me if I am wrong, but don't magnets produce a current in the presence of a magnetic field?
05:31 < archels> A changing magnetic field induces a current in a suitably oriented conductor.
05:41 < Lucas_> and I am guessing the conductor would have to be fairly big
05:43 < archels> What are you getting at?
05:44 < archels> You don't sense magnetism through induced current. The implanted magnet just wiggles a bit, which you can physically feel.
05:46 < Lucas_> I was thinking about alternate was to sense magnetism.  Our nervous system operates via electric signals, I was thinking that instead of using haptic sensors (like magnets) you can have a conductor that does the same thing, but is more acute.
05:46 < Lucas_> just an idea
05:48 < archels> yah, you're right though, you'd need a relatively very large conductor.
05:49 < archels> Incidentally my smart watch (in development) will have magnetic sensors with a wide dynamic range. :)
05:53 < Lucas_> How much are you selling it for?
05:54 < archels> Right now I'm just moving towards a prototype; I can worry about production later.
05:54 < Lucas_> tell me when you are done, I want to buy
05:56 < archels> I should put up a page somewhere with specs and photos... input is three buttons, a (scroll)wheel and touchscreen, connectivity via Zigbee, intuitive user interface, 128x64 daylight readable/backlit display, 16 MHz 8-bit atmega128 CPU, sensors include compass, barometer, humidity, temperature for the first iteration; later on possibly accellerometers and magnetic field strength meter.
05:56 < archels> oh and spectral light sensor.
05:57 < archels> old demo: http://www.turingbirds.com/upload/watch_demo_2011-07-11.mp4
06:02 < Lucas_> Interesting.  I'd much rather have an integrated system, but this will suffice until something better than magnets comes along.
06:02 < archels> Integrated with what?
06:03 < Lucas_> Myself
06:03 < Lucas_> biologically
06:03 < archels> oh, heh
06:04 < archels> When that comes along, just take my watch, eliminate the display, and you're done. ;)
06:04 < Lucas_> :D
06:06 < archels> Any case, if you have any feature requests or tips, let me know.
06:09 < Lucas_> will do
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08:20 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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08:26 < kanzure> hi Fiohnel
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08:44 < kanzure> fenn: ah i forgot to leave my copy of (don't laugh) "citizen science quarterly" with you guys
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09:48 < kanzure> fenn: who was that cs prof that dylan mentioned with the something-something log on his site
09:51 < kanzure> why does "git commit" take much longer than "git commit -m" in meetlog.git?
09:52 < kanzure> the repo's size is a few hundred megabytes
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10:39 < Utopiah> http://pysurfer.github.com (freesurfer in python)
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14:05 < kanzure> dna-based neural networks http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7356/full/nature10262.html
14:10 < archels> abuse of the term 'neural network', but OK!
14:14 < kanzure> perceptron?
14:44 < kanzure> dwarf fortress in ny times http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2793615
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15:52 < kanzure> oh noes qi-hardware is using openscad/cadmium
15:53 < kanzure> http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/wernermisc/source/tree/master/cad/test1/README
15:53 < kanzure> particularly werner almesberger <werner@almesberger.net>
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18:17 < fenn> shit happens fast around these parts (nekomimi cybernetic ears arrive in SF) http://www.flickr.com/photos/violetblue/5916556889/in/photostream
18:17 < fenn> i dunno who the CS guy was, he may have never said his name? probably at caltech
18:18 < fenn> need to record conversations with dylan, too much data to remember properly
18:18 < fenn> kanzure: i forgot to give you gray market drugs :\
18:19 < fenn> what's with these people who join ##hplusroadmap, say stuff, then leave
18:20 < fenn> anyone keeping up with state of infrared functional brain imaging?
18:21 < fenn> (led/photodiode on skull)
18:21 < fenn> seems like you could get a good deal of info out, enough to remember what the dream was about at least
18:21 < fenn> combined with eeg maybe even more discrimination
18:27 < fenn> dwarf fortress sorta reminds me of autoverse (permutation city)
18:29 < fenn> wtf is up with my cron job never running.. i took the '.sh' out of the filename and everything
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19:34 < kanzure> oh god fenn has become me
19:34 < kanzure> is cron running
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21:00 < kanzure> genehacker went to cern
21:06 < kanzure> "When I was very young, I thought I was an alien sent here to observe humans. The reason I thought this was because my body made weird noises (stomach gurgles, little burps) that I didn't hear from anyone else, thus I deduced I must not be human."
21:20 < kanzure> jstor torrent http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2789709
21:25 < kanzure> royal society search code stuff https://github.com/bnewbold/royal-search
21:26 < kanzure> publisher copyright agreements for scientific publishers http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/
21:26 < kanzure> http://www.generalist.org.uk/blog/2011/jstor-where-does-your-money-go/
21:30 < kanzure> peter thiel should just buy elsevier and get it over with
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21:39 < kanzure> tattoo/diabetes stuff http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2793522
21:39 < kristianpaul> kanzure: http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/wernermisc/source/tree/master/cad/test1/README
21:39 < kanzure> yes i saw it
21:40 < kanzure> it was werner right?
21:40 < kristianpaul> yes
21:40 < kanzure> cadmium shouldn't take hours..
21:41 < kristianpaul> i was wondering same
21:41 < kristianpaul> well 81m not hours ;)
21:41 < kristianpaul> if i read well..
21:42 < kristianpaul> i noticed you're writing a lolcad right?
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21:45 < kanzure> sure
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23:08 < fenn> hm. loup vaillant
23:11 < kanzure> no it was more like "al pacino" or something like "al g-something"
23:11 < fenn> damn robot
23:11 < fenn> "Noisegate Robot is sad! Gate not unlocked! Human intervention required!"
23:12 < fenn> it refuses to work between the hours of 10PM and 9AM.
23:12 < kanzure> union rules.
23:12 < fenn> which, obviously, is prime hacking time
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23:29 < fenn> arduino heart rate sensor, meh http://tourwhizzsystems.eventbrite.com/
23:30 < fenn> er, http://kck.st/nae9lR
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