--- Log opened Wed Jul 27 00:00:59 2011 00:59 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@p4142-ipad203yamaguchi.yamaguchi.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:57 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:58 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.6.161] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:40 < foucist> http://gamesbyemail.com/WoodTape/Default.htm 05:46 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer of neurons] 05:50 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:06 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:06 -!- el_kevino [~el_kevino@tor.office.avidlifemedia.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 06:32 -!- Lucas_ [81317815@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.49.120.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:41 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-216-48.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 < Lucas_> Good morning lads and ladies 06:44 < Lucas_> ... 06:44 < Lucas_> and men 06:45 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-80-108.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:08 < archels> mhm, to learn Python or Perl... 08:12 < Lucas_> both? 08:13 < archels> I have a script to write, and I'm going to do it either in Perl or in Python. 08:26 < foucist> archels: try for ruby, it's got the best of both! 08:26 < foucist> ruby's got some of perl's niceties 08:27 < foucist> regexp and the like 08:29 < archels> Ruby? NEVER!!!!1 08:29 < uniqanomaly_> and 1/3 python's devs and much less python's libs 08:30 < kanzure> learn everything 08:30 < kanzure> or else i will kill you 08:30 < foucist> uniqanomaly_: pssh, is that even true anymore? 08:31 < uniqanomaly_> sure 08:31 < foucist> maybe it was true 3-4 years ago 08:31 < uniqanomaly_> numpy, scipy, matplotlib, sage, etc etc etc 08:32 < archels> Hm, I've heard good things about numpy and scipy. 08:33 < uniqanomaly_> nltk 08:33 < kanzure> scikit.learn 08:33 < uniqanomaly_> yeah 08:45 < uniqanomaly_> http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Pensieve that one as software, starting with just text, good idea for project? 08:45 < uniqanomaly_> ;)) 08:48 < uniqanomaly_> is it* 08:51 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:05 < kanzure> water-based welding http://www.multiplaz.com/about 09:08 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:45 < kanzure> "Crazier idea - what if the patent pool (for some domain maybe?) was fixed? (ie. there can only exist 10k patents?) Then the cost of patent search isn't ever increasing as long as rate of patenting is higher than rate of expiry. And possible it could provide a mechanism for removing frivolous patents (like - you could buy a patent 'slot' off an existing holder - so you'd be incentivised to find the most stupid patent so you could offer them the lea 09:46 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:47 < Lucas_> where is that quote from? 09:47 < mjr> yeah it's fun to come up with kludges that would make the patent system slightly less broken while being less or equally realistic than just scrapping the whole piece of shit legislation altogether 09:47 < kanzure> http://math.uic.edu/~jlong/MCS425Fall10/RSA-patent.pdf 09:47 < kanzure> Lucas_: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2811338 09:50 < kanzure> "What if you could pay for some kind of insurance product to protect against patent lawsuits?" 09:51 < mjr> if anyone would offer such insurance, it'd be prohibitively expensive 09:55 < kanzure> and yet i can get insurance for all of my other property 11:04 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 < kanzure> hi AlonzoTG 11:12 < Utopiah> http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_lewis_don_t_take_consciousness_for_granted.html on FEBPM Functional Electrical Stimulation Battery Powered Microstimulator 11:18 < kanzure> microstimulators are over-rated what you need is a megastimulator 11:48 < CapNemo> Utopiah: inspiring talk 12:03 < superkuh> ... he calls the brain a 'fully functional quantum computer'. :\ 12:23 < kanzure> fully functional!! 12:24 < kanzure> it's unfortunate how wide-spread the quantum/brain stuff is 12:37 < CapNemo> well after the mechanic brain, not too surprising 12:49 < Lucas_> kanzure: what else do you expect with humans? 12:53 < kanzure> are you talking about patents? 12:54 < Lucas_> " it's unfortunate how wide-spread the quantum/brain stuff is " 12:55 < Lucas_> I assume you are commenting on a lot of the new age mumbo-jumbo 12:56 < kanzure> no specifically penrose 12:57 < kanzure> what was it? orchestarted object refucking or something 13:01 -!- He||eshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01 -!- Lucas_ [81317815@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.49.120.21] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:12 -!- strages [c6740838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.116.8.56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:27 < kanzure> time dilation is so weird. time is slowing down for me at the moment. 13:32 < kanzure> rank: computer score: 1026 wpm: 130 cps: 10.879 typo: 1.8% 13:45 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-71-67-103-109.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 < kanzure> "Don't pick your battles. Fight them all." eek 13:48 < kanzure> http://www.bwater.com/Uploads/FileManager/Principles/Bridgewater-Associates-Ray-Dalio-Principles.pdf 14:32 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-40-108.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- Jaakko [~Jaakko@host86-131-174-223.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- Jaakko is now known as Guest6631 14:55 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@p4142-ipad203yamaguchi.yamaguchi.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 15:20 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fedobliposlhetos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34 -!- jenzebubble [jen@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:38 -!- jennicide [jen@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:41 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-40-108.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55 -!- archels [~neuralnet@541ED8B0.cm-5-7d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:03 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtpmqqixwfvhtayi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:03 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtpmqqixwfvhtayi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:25 -!- elmom [~elmom@hoasnet-fe2add00-191.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:57 -!- CapNemo [u1995@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrjnauxyiifzdykp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:02 < foucist> AlonzoTG: so how's your OS going? 18:07 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- Guest6631 [~Jaakko@host86-131-174-223.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:49 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:04 < AlonzoTG> abandoned; I am now focusing my efforts on developing an AI, and then intend to command the AI to write the OS. =P 20:04 < AlonzoTG> Who told you I had an OS project anyway? 20:53 * ybit pats AlonzoTG on the back 21:23 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:24 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-69-205-70-55.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:28 < foucist> AlonzoTG: you told me.. i have a long memory ;) 21:28 < foucist> AlonzoTG: you may recognize me under a different nickname.. futhin/thinfu/thin 21:29 < foucist> i even used to have ops in #osdev for no reason at all! ;) 21:29 < foucist> AlonzoTG: anyways i like your idea of AI -> OS.. much cleaner that way 21:30 < foucist> AlonzoTG: what method of AI are you going with? i prefer evolutionary computation & neural networks & bayesian type shit.. i.e. emergent type shit 21:33 < foucist> stimulated annealing, monte carlo method, etc! 21:34 < foucist> tho the AIXI stuff with with approximations using monte carlo sounds cool 21:34 < foucist> i haven't looked at that 21:49 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:50 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:05 < kanzure> foucist: hah i used to idle in #osdev 22:06 < kanzure> around 2004-2006 22:06 < kanzure> my buddy was shmebegek/agaboogamonger 22:10 < foucist> kanzure: after my time ;) 22:11 < foucist> oh maybe not.. 22:11 < foucist> got logs saying i was in there a bit between 2004-2005 22:14 < kanzure> search for 'kanzure' 22:46 -!- QuantumG [~qg@rtfm.insomnia.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- mayko [~mayko@69-36-214-157.dynamic.dsl.skybest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:47 < foucist> kanzure: shit, you were in #keow lol 23:47 < foucist> <- used to be a forther 23:47 < foucist> i checked out #calxia too hmm 23:51 -!- jenzebubble [jen@173-27-44-143.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Jul 28 00:00:00 2011