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04:17 < JayDugger> I blame the weather.
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06:18 < delinquentme> kanzure, im gonna name drop you in this cover letter
06:19 < delinquentme> im assuming its ok with you?
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07:06 < kanzure> i blame society
07:06 < kanzure> delinquentme: sure, why not. can i see?
07:08 < delinquentme> yeah .. writing a cover letter here
07:08 < delinquentme> referencing that you pointed me to crossbow
07:10 < Juul> kanzure, do you know what happened to diybio houston?
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08:03 < kanzure> Juul: it is now ARCsomething
08:26 < kanzure> "why aren't there any open source printers?"
08:26 < kanzure> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2849677
08:26 < kanzure> *open source laser printers
08:26 < kanzure> big diff
08:28 < kanzure> hrm where was the article that described that you can be sued for personal use of patented stuff?
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08:39 < delinquentme> what about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_exemption#Common_law_research_exemption
08:41 < kanzure> `for "amusement, to satisfy idle curiosity, or for strictly philosophical inquiry."`
08:41 < kanzure> huh, amusement counts?
08:42 < kanzure> "Members may provide limited exceptions to the exclusive rights conferred by a patent, provided that such exceptions do not unreasonably conflict with a normal exploitation of the patent and do not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the patent owner, taking account of the legitimate interests of third parties."
08:43 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Trade-Related_Aspects_of_Intellectual_Property_Rights
08:43 < kanzure> concentrated evil? :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization
08:43 < kanzure> it's a little weird how little content there is on this
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08:45 < delinquentme> kanzure, http://pastie.org/2325817
08:45 < delinquentme> kanzure, no THIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WIPO.png is weird
08:46 < kanzure> yep
08:46 < kanzure> delinquentme: glad you've met jonathan cline.. he lived here in austin for a while
08:47 < delinquentme> yeah hes awesome
08:47 < delinquentme> no bs.. super helpful and always insightful
08:47 < kanzure> delinquentme: i think your letter needs a little bit of work
08:47 < kanzure> "What I can provide" should be improved with specific examples or better wording
08:48 < delinquentme> gotya
08:48 < kanzure> for instance, xhtml/css experience should be listed like "cross-browser web app supporting 230 million users on IE6, IE7, FF2, FF3, blah blah blah"
08:48 < kanzure> "and this is why i cry myself to sleep every night"
08:48 < delinquentme> do you think i should err on the side of too much info?
08:48 < delinquentme> lol
08:48 < kanzure> who are you applying to
08:49 < delinquentme> http://kaeberleinlab.org/
08:50 < kanzure> delinquentme: how badly do you want to work with that person?
08:51 < kanzure> i can email aubrey for you and ask him to refer you to the lab..
08:51 < delinquentme> that... would be awesome
08:52 < kanzure> i think kaeberlein is kaeber@u.washington.edu
08:53 < delinquentme> do you think that or .. info@kaeberleinlab.org
08:53 < kanzure> "Along with Preston Estep, Dr. Kaeberlein co-founded the human longevity research biotech company Longenity, Inc."
08:53 < kanzure> oh i know estep..
08:54 < kanzure> is there any particular reason you want this lab?
08:55 < kanzure> i.e., aubrey might be able to place you somewhere more interesting
08:55 < delinquentme> i want to be near the startups
08:55 < kanzure> in washington?
08:56 < delinquentme> on the coast
08:56 < delinquentme> is there a lab closer to the valley?
08:56 < kanzure> what about halcyon molecular?
08:56 < delinquentme> id shit a brick
08:56 < kanzure> that's in redwood city
08:56 < kanzure> (near mountain view, california)
08:56 < delinquentme> literally id die lol any of these are awesome
08:57 < delinquentme> i spoke with the ceo of spiral genetics and I wanted to work with them as well
08:57 < kanzure> delinquentme: can you send me that cover letter by email?
08:57 < kanzure> http://www.spiralgenetics.com/ ?
08:57 < delinquentme> yeahh lemme tune it up a bit
08:57 < delinquentme> correct
08:59 < kanzure> i have a few people who could place you somewhere interesting
08:59 < kanzure> but don't settle for kaeberlein right now
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09:17 < augur> anyone read permutation city?
09:17 < delinquentme> http://pastie.org/2325817
09:17 < foucist> augur: yes
09:17 < delinquentme> updated kanzure ^^
09:17 < ybit> note to self, don't scream like a girl
09:17 < augur> foucist: whatd you think
09:18 < ybit> hurts to speak now :)
09:18 < foucist> augur: good stuff
09:18 < foucist> augur: greg egan ftw
09:20 < foucist> augur: have you rad it?
09:20 < foucist> read*
09:20 < augur> im reading it now.
09:20 < augur> i find some of the characters to be odd
09:21 < foucist> augur: yeah they are that heh
09:21 < augur> very sort of .. tied to their bodies
09:21 < augur> uneasy about being uploads
09:23 < Utopiah> http://www.degate.org
09:24 < foucist> yeah. my reaction was "what's the big deal?" but the flip side of the coin is that life seems pretty meaningless if you're just an upload running on a computer
09:24 < ybit> i have a new 2 week project
09:24 < foucist> at least if you're only just interacting with a virtual world..
09:24 < ybit> local jewelry business is launching a new project
09:24 < augur> i dont see how life seems pretty meaningless at all if thats the case
09:24 < ybit> that be me focus
09:25 < augur> if anything, life seems more meaningful, because you can let yourself fall headfirst into your deepest passions without fear of dying, without fear of squandering your time
09:25 < augur> etc
09:26 < augur> you can explore each passion to its fullest, knowing that you will _always_ be able to explore all of the rest as well
09:27 < augur> want to spend 30 years of your life becoming an expert in something? do it. you dont have to worry about never being able to go back and become an expert in those other things you might want to understand
09:27 < augur> because you'll _always_ have 30 years to spend becoming an expert
09:27 < foucist> might be able to skip much of that with matrix-style downloads
09:28 < augur> i dont think that'll ever be possible with brain-like uploads, but thats not the point
09:28 < augur> i dont get this idea that life is meaningless if you're an upload
09:28 < augur>  /we're already uploads/
09:29 < augur> we just run on computers that cant be upgraded
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10:36 < kanzure> augur: "cant be upgraded" well that's pessimistic
10:36 < kanzure> what are you doing in here, then
10:37 < augur> kanzure: i mean with our current state of technology, obviously
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10:57 < kanzure> augur: i'm still not sure if that's true, sorry
10:58 < augur> well ok, if you can replace parts of your brain when you start dying, let me know
11:18 < kanzure> they aren't that impressive right now
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11:31 < augur> kanzure: where by "not that impressive" you mean "don't do anything"
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11:47 < kanzure> no they do things..:/
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13:16 < Tyrant> fucking internet
13:22 < kanzure> Tyrant: what do you think of LH001
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13:22 < delinquentme> I seek to provide my talents and know-how to help with research into aging. Specifically I see my place being the "computation facilitator", basically a programmer who acts as a liason between scientific research and the all important power of massive scale computation machinery.
13:22 < delinquentme> good?
13:25 < kanzure> no
13:26 < kanzure> delinquentme: did you see Tyrant's emaila bout liquidhandling?
13:26 < kanzure> he wants to sell your thing for $4000?
13:30 < delinquentme> no?
13:30 < delinquentme> i feel like i missed something here??
13:31 < delinquentme> dude im headed out the door haha
13:31 < delinquentme> ill be back in like 2 hours :D
13:31 < kanzure> delinquentme: on diybio
13:38 < Tyrant> kanzure: lh001 is the youtube video of the diy lh?
13:56 < Tyrant> kanzure I don't want to sell it for 4k
13:57 < Tyrant> I was talking about one at least the capabilities of the quadzi
13:57 < Tyrant> *quad-z
13:59 < Tyrant> (which has a base cost of 30k)
14:19 < kanzure> Tyrant: lh001 on github
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16:06 < delinquentme> Tyrant, whatever you want to do man!! its yours .. you want help let me know
16:06 < delinquentme> :D
16:06 < delinquentme> youll need a heat gun and like 500 bucks
16:07 < delinquentme> im floored that you liked it though ... id love to do more work with this
16:07 < delinquentme> ill be on later gents~~
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16:29 < ybit> huh?
16:29 < ybit> something about a heat gun
16:30  * ybit has a heat gun
16:31  * ybit whirls his heat'n gun around the roooooom
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