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01:06 < fenn> ml is simpler and thus should be first. symbolic logic is useless without sensory processing to base it on
01:06 < fenn> most AI people don't understand this *cough*
01:07 < Utopiah> by after I mean they announced it just now, iirc they will take place at the same time, this fall
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01:12 < delinquentme> hey! before i wake up in 1.5 hours ....
01:12 < delinquentme> I'm starting a petition for a Stanford open bioinformatics course offering ... if any of you are on twitter I'd greatly appreciate a retweet http://twitter.com/#!/delinquentme/status/103376498894962688
01:13 < Utopiah> petition?
01:13 < delinquentme> yeah
01:13 < Utopiah> ok, well where is it?
01:14 < Utopiah> I see a blog post about wanting to start one
01:14 < delinquentme> Utopiah, basically they've got 3 open courses offered this fall .. and a 4th ( for a full course load ) would be awesome
01:14 < fenn> um, basically it boils down to whether the professor feels like they have time and energy to deal with the unwashed hordes of the internet
01:15 < fenn> a petition serves what purpose?
01:15 < delinquentme> to show interest
01:15 < delinquentme> annnnnnd!
01:16 < delinquentme> because it would make a stellar 4th course
01:16 < delinquentme> and it fits perfectly into the 3 existing offerings
01:16 < Utopiah> I doubt they would start it this semester
01:16 < fenn> i don't disagree, but i think you might be going about this in the wrong order
01:16 < fenn> first step is to find the prof teaching bioinformatics and talk to them
01:16 < Utopiah> did you inquiry first to know if they were planning to do so?
01:16 < Utopiah> (Im not sure but to me petition has a negociation connotation)
01:17 < fenn> yeah that too
01:18 < delinquentme> sent the email
01:18 < delinquentme> but its like 1 am there so
01:18 < delinquentme> ok i gotta get some sleep ... ill be back up in 2 hours?
01:19 < delinquentme> since people sign up on the other websites for the class... would making an additional signup page for the petition... be redundant?
01:19 < delinquentme> gotta sleep ! .. see you guys soon!
01:19 < Utopiah> if you really really can't wait, better start creating an OpenUniversity or whatever class until the Stanford ones open, I bet just working on the curriculum would teach a lot and maybe would even motivate (sic) Stanford to offer its own
01:19 < delinquentme> Utopiah, actually i have
01:20 < delinquentme> i've got outlines from 3 diff bioinformatics books
01:20 < delinquentme> however a ranking next to stanford students would be hella awesome
01:20 < Utopiah> hmm yes I remember you talked before about crawling textbooks
01:20 < delinquentme> ( ps you DO know that they're ranking all participants )
01:20 < delinquentme> oh yeah and ive got the python working on that :DDDD
01:21 < delinquentme> the script needs tweaking though
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01:27 < fenn> ml-class is the same material as we did at hacker dojo last year
01:27 < fenn> i think you'd want to have a study group with which to ask questions
01:28 < fenn> it's easy to get hung up on stupid wordy math things
01:28 < Utopiah> I guess they'll use http://openclassroom.stanford.edu/MainFolder/CoursePage.php?course=MachineLearning
01:31 < fenn> i suppose i should re-do this and actually do the homework this time
01:32 < Utopiah> IMHO that's part of the value of that class, to have a fixed timetable and have "peers" to emulate learning
01:32 < Utopiah> plus if your question is really good, the professor should answer it (curious on how they'll handle that)
01:36 < fenn> meh
01:36 < fenn> i realized from the dojo class that formal learning systems are not very good for actually, you know, learning stuff
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07:24 < kanzure> man i should start banning people
07:25 < strages_> ?
07:27 < delinquentme> is there such a thing as medical research wholesale?
07:27 < kanzure> you mean auctions?
07:27 < delinquentme> im sure for disposables
07:28 < kanzure> strages_: if you check the logs, people keep logging in/out all the time
07:28 < kanzure> this is not how you use irc :(
07:28 < delinquentme> nah i mean like medical research equipment that would be like the WM berg catalogue equivalent of new medical research tools
07:30 < delinquentme> it seems to me that replacing this >>> http://www.amazon.com/Scilogex-71311212-MicroPette-Autoclavable-8-Channel/dp/B004J4W7I6
07:30 < delinquentme> is totally doable
07:30 < delinquentme> i know i could drop the cost of my LH and its far more automated than that
07:31 < delinquentme> does this alone establish a market
07:31 < delinquentme> prove a market
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07:48 < strages_> kanzure: banning folks for bad connections or problems with the freenode network is likely not a good idea
07:57 < kanzure> why can't they just use a shell like the rest of us
08:20 < strages_> why not just administer an IQ test upon anyone joining the channel?
08:21 < strages_> my point is some folks don't know how to do that or choose not to for their own personal reasons
08:22 < kanzure> hmm i don't think it's a "not know how to" issue, i mean it's been years now and it's not that big of a deal
08:22 < kanzure> and i can't imagine why you wouldn't want
08:22 < kanzure> *want to
08:24 < kanzure> amateurs http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm
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09:25 < foucist> kanzure: i actually have /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS  lol
09:25 < foucist> have had it like that for a year now
09:25 < foucist> the occasional time that i respond to someone that's no longer there is definitely worth the lack of noise
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10:13 < kanzure> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3549/interview_the_making_of_dwarf_.php?print=1
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10:56 < kanzure> hi Tyrant
11:38 < Tyrant> hey kanzure
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20:34 < kanzure> jkdklasdjkl;asdjkladjklfasjkon
20:34 < kanzure> campfirenow.com sucks
20:34 < kanzure> it's been adding random semicolons to my javascript
20:35 < kanzure> in the chat messages
20:35 < kanzure> how is this even
20:35 < kanzure> i don't
20:35 < kanzure> <-- angry
20:36 < klafka> ;_;
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21:51 < kanzure> eh
21:51 < kanzure> http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/16/yc-funded-science-exchange-a-central-database-for-core-research-facilities/
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22:57 < Utopiah> maybe some JS magical semicolon insertion, shouldnt be within content but then, it's magical
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