--- Log opened Fri Sep 09 00:00:02 2011
00:03 < kanzure> http://blog.ossoil.com/2011/09/09/finnish-biohacker-community/
00:06  * ybit pokes kanzure 
00:06 < kanzure> huh? what?
00:06 < ybit> you want to speak at a con coming up next summer?
00:07 < kanzure> next summer? that's pretty far off man, i don't even know if i'll be speaking at FOSSASIA in a few weeks
00:07 < ybit> http://al.gorith.ms/static/barelyacon.jpg
00:07 < ybit> trying to find speakers
00:08 < kanzure> i might be able to hang out.. sure, who knows
00:08 < ybit> wee!
00:09 < kanzure> which reminds me.. i should buy the plane tickets for open science summit
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00:09 < kanzure> apparently i'm presenting?
00:10 < kanzure> oh wait i'm not listed
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01:22 < kanzure> http://www.web2pdfconvert.com/
01:22 < kanzure> submit@web2pdfconvert.com
01:22 < kanzure> the mind.. it boggles
02:02 < Utopiah> http://events.ccc.de/2011/09/09/cfp-for-28th-chaos-communication-congress/
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09:34 < delinquentme> Tyrant: you happen to find any good 3DPs yet?
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16:12 < kanzure> what is this :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwVV7lY2Eb8
16:12 < kanzure> why would people watch this?
16:12 < kanzure> it's just some guy talking poorly about biohacking.. i don't get it?
16:13 < eudoxia> lol that picture in his channel
16:13 < eudoxia> is he making bullets?
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16:15 < mrtrousers> Hello
16:15 < mrtrousers> I was wondering if there is any software to design using biobricks?
16:17 < mrtrousers> You know like the electronics design programs but for biobricks and bio..
16:18 < mrtrousers> By the way what is a gitduino?
16:21 < kanzure> yes
16:21 < kanzure> look up clotho i guess.. there's lots of others though
16:21 < kanzure> gitduino is a github clone specifically for open source hardware
16:23 < mrtrousers> It gets you the files to build hardware yourself? Maybe in the longterm get feed into a machine that builds it for you?
16:24 < mrtrousers> ClothoCAD?
16:27 < kanzure> mrtrousers: if you're into non-technical video presentations there's some on http://gnusha.org/skdb/ about that
16:27 < kanzure> yes clothoca
16:27 < kanzure> clothocad
16:28 < mrtrousers> Cool..  Dont have a lab yet and want to work a bit on the software level, see how that goes..
16:30 < mrtrousers> What about modified biological organisms, are they getting patented when discovered? Is ther an open source movement in that field?
16:30 < kanzure> do you already code?
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16:33 < mrtrousers> I can code a bit if we are talking computer languages, if its about bases i know a bit froma a biology year i did..
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16:52 < kanzure> mrtrousers: what programming work have you done before?
16:53 < mrtrousers> Haha.. No, no programming work.. I did some stuff in uni.. c, c++, ruby, html.. But just basic stuff..
16:53 < kanzure> ok i see
16:53 < mrtrousers> And well basic bash scriptin too..
16:54 < kanzure> really it depends on where you want to contribute the most.. there's tons of biohacking-related projects in each of those languaes
16:54 < kanzure> *langauges
16:54 < kanzure> 'cept bash, nobody uses bash but for glues
16:54 < mrtrousers> yup
16:54 < kanzure> do you do html5/css3?
16:55 < mrtrousers> Not tried html5 yet, have looked into it, read a tiny bit on w3c..
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16:57 < mrtrousers> Im just fascinated by synthetic biology and diybio.. Have some basic knowledge form a biology year I did and want to give it a go from a computer simulation/amateur lab approach..
16:58 < kanzure> are you more interested in bioinformatics, toolchains/lab automation, or what?
17:00 < mrtrousers> I guess bioinformatics? I just imagine designing biology like we design electronics..
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17:03 < mrtrousers> A few biobricks there and there and you get that, something you can grow for real and that does what you intended.. Did I get it right or I am just dreaming?
17:04 < mrtrousers> Is Clotho mainly for sharing data? How do you start the CAD?
17:05 < kanzure> dunno, i've always disliked clotho and all this "biobricks design" software ;)
17:07 < kanzure> mrtrousers: maybe i could convince you to get interested in something else,
17:08 < mrtrousers> Ok, you tell me..
17:08 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lab_on_a_chip
17:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/
17:09 < kanzure> from time to time i revisit some work on software used to generate lab-on-a-chip-designs that can be printed at home
17:10 < mrtrousers> It looks interesting brainfood, not read it all yet..
17:10 < mrtrousers> Thas it mean you could run "experiments" without a lab?
17:10 < kanzure> no you would build a lab.. a mini-lab
17:10 < mrtrousers> Is the chip  the lab?
17:11 < mrtrousers> Or would it need more things..
17:11 < mrtrousers> ?
17:12 < mrtrousers> Dude, it can do PCR and electrophoreseis.. Its a lab! A lab on a chip!
17:12 < mrtrousers> Are those available? At what cost?
17:13 < mrtrousers> You working on that?
17:17 < mrtrousers> I like it, but still interested on the biological design bit, that labonachip would be a great tool to have.. And god knows what it could power..
17:20 < mrtrousers> You say labonachip's can be printed at home? What is this software?
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17:27 < mrtrousers> Is there any tutorial, resource or open source community where it explains how to etch your on labonakit?
17:27 < mrtrousers> How do you interact with it?
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17:29 < mrtrousers> OK i need to digest all that brain food.. Catch up later..
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18:34 < kanzure> oops looks like i forgot to plan to attend http://openhardwaresummit.org/ on the 15th
18:34 < kanzure> but it's ok i guess.. they charge for attendance and i'm not speaking there anyway
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