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01:04 < kanzure> jrayhawk: you had a timeout :V
01:04 < kanzure> i am disappointed
01:06 < jrayhawk> I had one yesterday, too!
01:07 < jrayhawk> XFS is a little screwy on systems with a lot of memory
01:07 < jrayhawk> it'd be nice if Linux exposed something barrier-like to userspace.
01:07 < kanzure> what is "a lot" in your case
01:08 < jrayhawk> sixteen gigs on this one
01:09 < jrayhawk> which is sixteen gigs of transactions XFS is willing to build up if I/O can't keep up until some userspace program does a sync and forces a huge long flush
01:10 < jrayhawk> while most of the time that userspace program really only wants an I/O barrier rather than a full sync to disk
01:10 < kanzure> this filesystem seems to only work for well designed userspace programs
01:11 < jrayhawk> this filesystem seems to only work well for IRIX, which had a *good* storage layer
01:13 < jrayhawk> I don't really think you can *have* a well designed userspace program in Linux
01:14 < kanzure> tell it like a story!
01:14  * kanzure is busy hacking some python together
01:14 < kanzure> but i'm around and aware or so it seems
01:14 < jrayhawk> on cysteine we just removed all sync calls from userspace
01:14 < jrayhawk> runs much better
01:17 < jrayhawk> linux's storage layer has a lot of problems, and only a handful of people have worked on them because honeypots in the form of experimental filesystems keep otherwise potentially productive people from finishing things
01:17 < jrayhawk> ubifs/logfs/btrfs etc
01:17 < kanzure> or from murdering people
01:17 < kanzure> or possibly getting retrials?
01:18 < jrayhawk> ha ha like a judge would humor Hans warped version of reality
01:21 < jrayhawk> i guess the solution to my immediate problem is to shove backups onto a somewhat more blocking filesystem
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01:34 < kanzure> jrayhawk: so i'm still having some unicode issues
01:34 < kanzure> when i decode a file as utf-8 i get some ascii every other character and \x00 the rest of the time
01:35 < kanzure> when i decode the file as utf-16 (somestring.decode("utf-16") in python) i end up with japanese characters
01:35 < kanzure> it's not japanese :/
01:41 < jrayhawk> You may have to specify utf-16le or utf-16be
01:42 < jrayhawk> utf-16-le I guess, in pythonland
01:45 < jrayhawk> you should get familiar with how the BOM works so you can understand what your decoder is at least supposed to be doing
01:45 < kanzure> hmm with utf-16-le i get a UnicodeDecodeError
01:45 < jrayhawk> What about with utf-16-be?
01:45 < kanzure> utf-16-be works
01:45 < kanzure> hooray
01:46 < kanzure> the initial bytes are \xx and \xf i think
01:46 < kanzure> or whatever i was complaining about the other day
01:46 < kanzure> why is sisko always shouting? it's almost like a bad imitation of shatner
01:47 < jrayhawk> to teach the autistic about human emotions
01:48 < kanzure> yeah the first episode seems to be just for that
01:48 < kanzure> "we experience time linearly" and then it continues on like this for 30min
01:55 < QuantumG> heh
02:35 < kanzure> jrayhawk: the first two bytes seem to be the same whether it works for utf-16-be or utf-16-le
02:36 < jrayhawk> Can you give me some example files?
02:38 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/1.dat
02:38 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/2.dat
02:38 < kanzure> the second one only works with utf-16-le
02:42 < jrayhawk> uh... 2.dat has a 16-bit BOM but appears to have 8-bit characters?
02:43 < jrayhawk> so it's made by a very dumb program
02:45 < jrayhawk> it's a miracle you can get python to decode that to anything useful at all, considering it's invalid in every character set
02:45 < kanzure> let's see if it was me (my python shit) or scp or google that caused it..
02:46 < kanzure> https://trends.google.com/trends/viz?sort=0&scale=0&graph=all_csv&geor=all&q=caa+sports%2Cinternet+explorer+5.0%2Cwheatgrass&date=all&sa=N&geo=all
03:32 < jrayhawk> 0000000: fffe 5900 6f00 7500 2000 6d00 7500 7300  ..Y.o.u. .m.u.s.
03:32 < jrayhawk> 0000010: 7400 2000 6200 6500 2000 7300 6900 6700  t. .b.e. .s.i.g.
03:32 < jrayhawk> 0000020: 6e00 6500 6400 2000 6900 6e00 2000 7400  n.e.d. .i.n. .t.
03:33 < jrayhawk> well, at least that part looks good!
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07:36 < archels> http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/analog-systems-biology-0928.html
07:36 < archels> Shit, even MIT doesn't bother linking to the actual paper?
07:47 < kanzure> nobody bothers linking to the actual paper
07:47 < kanzure> archels: if you care,
07:47 < kanzure> i wrote a web service that acted as a news2paper gateway
07:47 < kanzure> the concept was that you would click the bookmarklet when you wanted to go to the paper for the current article
07:48 < kanzure> unfortunately it relies on the power of 'crowdsourcing'
07:51 < kanzure> http://octopart.theresumator.com/apply/HCsbk5/Software-Engineer-Analytics.html
07:51 < kanzure> octopart is hiring
07:53 < archels> kanzure: sounds neat, but relying on contributions will probably result in hit-and-miss
07:54 < kanzure> well it could also be done manually
07:54 < kanzure> there's not that much science published :/
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09:35 < kanzure> http://blog.bitbucket.org/2011/10/03/bitbucket-now-rocks-git/
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13:13 < kanzure> back from court
13:14 < klafka> why were you in court?
13:19 < kanzure> klafka: see pm/im
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16:01 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMb3hGzWW8
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18:11 < delinquentme> ahhhh
18:11 < delinquentme> ahhhhh!
18:11 < delinquentme> the nets are splittahing
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18:19 < delinquentme> kanzure:
18:19 < delinquentme> whats good !?
18:21 < kanzure> ?
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18:57 < delinquentme> just saying howdy
18:58 < delinquentme> u ready for class?
19:00 < foucist> he's gonna fail
19:20 < QuantumG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04MNf1YdNxI
19:22 < kanzure> QuantumG: these links suck please describe them
19:22 < kanzure> i can't figure out what they are from their youtube ids
19:22 < JayDugger> Cops arrest people running a lemonade stand. And that surprises you how?
19:27 < JayDugger> And Thingiverse continues to whine about a weapons policy...http://blog.thingiverse.com/2011/10/03/deadly-weapons-on-thingiverse/
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21:52 < jrayhawk> it woudln't be that hard to run afould of ITAR by distributing weapon designs.
21:52 < jrayhawk> ugh, can't type
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