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04:48 < archels> kanzure: Read my paper yet? :)
05:20 < fenn> ml class homework is hard for all the wrong reasons :(
05:22 < foucist> fenn: what are those reasons
05:23 < jrayhawk> Rather than teaching students functional programming, it's teaching students to despise functional programming
05:23 < fenn> it's not teaching students programming at all
05:24 < fenn> it's "how to nit-pick"
05:24 < fenn> also, octave error messages suck
05:24 < fenn> "there's an error somewhere on this line"
05:24 < fenn> gee thanks
05:24 < jrayhawk> staying true to its matlab origins
05:25 < fenn> despite all this, i can't figure out why my algorithm doesn't converge (what they should be teaching)
05:25 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/ml-class-ex1-divergence.png
05:26 < jrayhawk> oh, you mean "matlab", not "ml"
05:26 < jrayhawk> okay
05:26 < fenn> ml = machine learning
05:26 < jrayhawk> that's usually abbreviated as "ai"
05:27 < fenn> and "ai" is abbreviated as "cs"?
05:27 < jrayhawk> anyway, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_(programming_language)
05:46 < foucist> jrayhawk: ai-class.com and ml-class.org are two separate classes on going
05:46 < foucist> along with db-class.org
05:46 < foucist> started a couple weeks ago
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06:00 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
06:02 < JayDugger> fenn: You might try search for diacritical marks absent from English in subtitles as a signifier of "not-English."
06:24 < JayDugger> Any advice on drilling out a stripped M2 screw in a laptop?
06:25 < JayDugger> "Don't" only counts if you've a better option.
06:27 < fenn> edm
06:27 < fenn> or acid, if it's a steel/plastic case and you're feeling adventurous
06:27 < JayDugger> That seems a little over-powered and prone to damage to the motherboard.
06:27 < fenn> oh, also left-handed bits work great for this
06:28 < fenn> sometimes it will bind and just unscrew the stuck threads
06:28 < JayDugger> Yeah, that's a good point.
06:28 < fenn> you might be able to dremel a slot into it and use a flat head screwdriver
06:28 < JayDugger> I'd rather not spend more than $250 on the repair. (Used Thinkpads of the same model go for about that much on eBay.)
06:29 < JayDugger> I can't cut a slot. The screw sits in a recess about 5-6 mm deep and only slightly larger diameter than the screw head.
06:29 < JayDugger> The left-handed bit, though, that's a good idea.
06:30 < JayDugger> I should probably test the screw extractor I brought home from work.
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18:57 < kanzure> back
19:02 < JayDugger> front
19:07 < ybit> below
19:11 < kanzure> top?
19:12 < ybit> above! geez
19:21 < JayDugger> ntop
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19:49 < fenn> inside a 12,1 dihedral repeating spherical manifold
20:05 < kanzure> screw you
20:09 < kanzure> fenn: did deliquentme show up at langton?
20:10 < fenn> no, not that i know of
20:10 < fenn> he's from pittsburgh yes?
20:11 < kanzure> yes
20:11 < kanzure> he's in the area.. was looking for things to do
20:11 < kanzure> met him at open science summit
20:14 < fenn> i met his friend who started "hardware startup sf" which should be meeting nov 10
20:15 < fenn> just a schmoozefest
20:15 < fenn> but entertaining
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20:29 < Tyrant> hey kanzure, is http://www.heybryan.org/solidworks_file_format.html your attempt to RE the solidworks format or someone else's?
20:30 < kanzure> mine
20:30 < Tyrant> did you work on it any further?
20:31 < kanzure> hmm geeze that was jan 2010
20:31 < kanzure> i think i've dabbled with it a few times since then
20:31 < kanzure> haven't had tremendous progress
20:31 < kanzure> at one point i thought maybe the file format was just the .x format from parasolid
20:31 < kanzure> but i didn't have much luck with that
20:31 < kanzure> oops i mean .xt
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20:32 < Tyrant> hmm
20:32 < kanzure> PatrickMcLaren: your password is 1211
20:32 < kanzure> you should change it
20:33 < PatrickMcLaren> kanzure: Thanks
20:33 < kanzure> is 1211 correct?
20:33 < PatrickMcLaren> kanzure: Couldn't say. Quickly though, where did that show up?
20:34 < kanzure> somewhere on the interwebs
20:34 < kanzure> it's been on mmy mindd for a while now
20:34 < kanzure> just thouught i''d let yyou know
20:34 < kanzure> (minuus all tthe typos)
20:37 < PatrickMcLaren> Just a snippet. Enough for me to change everything now. Despite it being a throwaway.
20:38 < kanzure> well, glad i could help
20:38 < Tyrant> kanzure: know of any open source CAD format converters?
20:39 < kanzure> s
20:39 < kanzure> Tyrant: brlcad has lots of converte
20:39 < kanzure> r
20:39 < kanzure> Damn it
20:39 < kanzure> Tyrant: brlcad has lots of converters
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20:48 < PatrickMcLaren> kanzure: anyways, how's the diybio scene been coming along? I just moved to cambridge
20:54 < fenn> huh i guess the windows key actually does something: http://fennetic.net/irc/compiz.png
20:54 < kanzure> is this unity?
20:55 < fenn> um. i dunno?
20:55 < kanzure> ubuntu unity
20:56 < fenn> oh, god no that thing is fucking awful clusterfuck i wish it would die in a fire
20:59 < ybit> fenn: what's the google doc on the left?
20:59 < kanzure> ybit: what about doing my passwod resetter project
21:00 < ybit> i've decided to hold off on projects for a few months, i keep distracting thinking about them
21:16 < pan4x> http://boards.4chan.org/diy/res/23612#q23612
21:22 < fenn> ybit: halloween party invite list
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22:47 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster* is pretty good
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