--- Log opened Sun Nov 06 00:00:29 2011 00:21 -!- falmot [~root@76-10-132-191.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:22 -!- falmot [~root@206-248-163-66.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 -!- devrando1 [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- falmot [~root@206-248-163-66.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:56 -!- falmot [~root@69-196-170-85.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- Detergentizer_ [~whossus@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- Detergentizer [~whossus@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25 -!- Detergentizer_ is now known as Detergentizer 01:44 -!- NCC-A2 [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- NCC-A2 is now known as NCC-A1 01:47 < NCC-A1> hello everyone 01:51 < Stee|> hello 02:01 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:16 < JayDugger> Good morning. 02:17 < NCC-A1> good morning, Jay Dugger 03:12 -!- marainein [~marainein@114-198-77-10.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-93-110.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:28 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-81-35.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:59 -!- Detergentizer [~whossus@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Detergentizer] 06:15 < kanzure> fenn: http://www.mostlymaths.net/2011/11/time-tracking-like-there-is-no-tomorrow.html 07:13 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-3-75.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:18 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:42 < eudoxia> Hey, everybody, the GVCS went past its kickstarter goal 07:42 < eudoxia> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/622508883/global-village-construction-set 07:50 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:51 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:15 -!- NCC-A1 [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:35 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-3-75.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-131.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:00 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:15 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:09 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:43 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-67-171-66-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- ShapeShiftr [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- ShapeShiftr [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:54 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 < kanzure> beep 13:11 < kanzure> hi Mariu 13:11 -!- cryptic [~cryptic@c-68-59-53-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 < kanzure> howdy cryptic.. 13:11 < cryptic> hey 13:11 < cryptic> didn't even know this channel existed 13:11 < kanzure> logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ 13:11 < kanzure> yeah, longest running transhumanism channel at this point i think 13:12 < Mariu> Hello, kanzure ! 13:12 < kanzure> Mariu: what's up? 13:14 < Mariu> hey, just checking hplus 13:17 < Mariu> I feel like I belong to transhumanism and try to meet people that share the same view 13:18 < kanzure> we're more about building things in here, but that's cool.. 13:19 < klafka1> fuck building things The sweet cotton candy kiss of transcendental bliss... 13:25 < Mariu> :p 13:25 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:26 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:32 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 13:47 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:47 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:49 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:18 < ybit> superkuh: thanks for r/scholar 14:52 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 < cryptic> what do you guys think about stuff like Adderall? 14:59 < Mariu> is it similar like Concerta ? 15:00 < cryptic> yes 15:00 < cryptic> academic steroids :) 15:00 < Mariu> never tried, so don't know 15:00 < Mariu> lol 15:00 < Mariu> =) 15:01 < kanzure> cryptic: i take it 15:02 < cryptic> I just got an ADHD diagnosis 15:02 < kanzure> fun times 15:02 < Mariu> kanzure, is it any good ? 15:03 < kanzure> works for me 15:03 < kanzure> cryptic: pm 15:03 < Mariu> what would you choose between Concerta and Adderall ? 15:04 < cryptic> Mariu: I think Adderall is better, because it's a formulation of l- and d-amphetamine, which I think have better pharmacological effects than methylphenidate, which is Ritalin and Concerta 15:05 < Mariu> thanks, Cryptic 15:07 < kanzure> the delivery mechanism also varies from manufacturer to manufacturer 15:07 < cryptic> right 15:08 < kanzure> cryptic: so about steroids.. 15:08 < kanzure> it's really weird, but most transhumanists think anabolic steroids are the most horrible thing ever 15:08 < kanzure> *things 15:09 < cryptic> well, I suppose there's an argument for the net gain 15:10 < cryptic> i.e. steroids cause a net loss over time 15:10 < cryptic> I don't know if the same can be said about adderall 15:10 < kanzure> i've been on adderall for more than ten years and haven't noticed any addiction, withdrawal or tapering problems 15:11 < cryptic> do you get regular EKGs and stress tests? 15:11 < kanzure> no 15:14 < ybit> reddit.com/r/scholar 15:14 < ybit> anyone seeing my request for organic electronics? 15:14 < ybit> i'm not seeing any of my posts on reddit from the past hour :\ 15:14 < cryptic> I'm building an arduino EKG for the gym 15:14 < ybit> +1 15:14 < ybit> nice 15:14 < cryptic> with two accelerometers built in to correct for noise 15:14 < kanzure> ybit: maybe they need to be approved first 15:15 < ybit> nah 15:15 < kanzure> cryptic: maybe you can throw in the arduino/android bridging 15:15 < ybit> i'm wondering if my comment karma is so low reddit filters anything i post 15:15 < kanzure> http://www.reddit.com/r/Scholar/comments/m2t46/request_organic_electronics_on_natural_cotton/ 15:16 < cryptic> that'd be interesting kanzure 15:16 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:17 < ybit> kanzure: yeah, it's just not showing up in 'new' 15:17 < kanzure> maybe you broke the interwebs 15:17 < ybit> could it be? 15:18 < kanzure> ybit: also i should kick you for saying "+1" 15:18 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ 15:18 < Utopiah> (hard not to +1 that) 15:19 <@kanzure> BEG ME FOR MERCY 15:19 < ybit> nevar! 15:19 < ybit> do it! 15:19 < ybit> i dare you! 15:19 < Mariu> LOL 15:20 < ybit> spam filters 15:21 < ybit> the reason my posts aren't showing up 15:21 < ybit> probably due to the cookies showing up from other accounts 15:22 <@kanzure> yeah isn't it like $1 for 1,000 reddit accounts? 15:22 < ybit> kanzure: is ^5 kickable? 15:22 <@kanzure> under normal circumstances, yes 15:22 < ybit> ^5 15:22 <@kanzure> i thought you meant the 5th message up (LOL) 15:22 < ybit> good for you 15:22 < ybit> :) 15:23 < ybit> who else has been diagnosed as add? 15:23 < ybit> ..in here 15:23 <@kanzure> adhd for me 15:24 < ybit> yeah, adhd 15:24 < ybit> the psychologist emphasized the H for some reason, whatever 15:24 < Mariu> me 15:24 < ybit> wondering if you guys actually learned anything in school? i never learn while in school 15:24 < Mariu> he knew you will notice 15:25 < ybit> okay, probably a dumb question, so i'll shut up 15:25 < Mariu> No, u ! 15:25 <@kanzure> ybit: why are you back in school 15:25 < Mariu> they tell you it's okay to die, and not do anything about it 15:26 < ybit> i'm considering cutting it to part-time next semester so i can have more time to actually learn 15:26 < ybit> kanzure: think i've explained this previously 15:28 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-71-93.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 < ybit> kanzure: do you ever go to the austin hackerspace? 15:28 <@kanzure> not much anymore 15:28 <@kanzure> they moved up north 15:28 < ybit> you still don't have a car? 15:28 <@kanzure> i do 15:29 < ybit> hmm, so it's highly inconveniant to drive there? 15:29 <@kanzure> it's just normal inconvenient 15:29 < ybit> the worse of them 15:29 < ybit> worst 15:33 < ybit> http://twitpic.com/75ukjz :: Measuring astronaut intelligence - a match and remember memory test we do on-orbit for cognitive assessment 15:35 * kanzure is porting the backbone.js router to pjscrape 15:36 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:44 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:53 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-67-171-66-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:55 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 <@kanzure> http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/military-robots/boston-dynamics-alphadog-prototype-on-video 16:09 <@kanzure> at first i thought it was less impressive than bigdog 16:09 <@kanzure> until you see it next to three men 16:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-71-93.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:22 < klafka> why? 16:22 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:26 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41 < ybit> what are the tubes for in these robots? 16:42 < ybit> the cords hanging down from the ceiling 16:42 < ybit> i've never known this 16:48 < ybit> http://christopherolah.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/manipulation-of-implicit-functions-with-an-eye-on-cad/ 16:56 < ybit> http://www.mediafire.com/?gz3ib83v85bk1in for organic electronics paper 16:57 < ybit> http://www.mediafire.com/?77moyunk7swn70o :: Modafinil treatment in patients with seasonal affective disorder/winter depression: an open-label pilot study. 17:15 <@kanzure> ybit: power.. sucks if your battery keeps running out during testing 17:15 <@kanzure> sometimes other things like debugging 17:16 < superkuh> I broke my prescription BrightLite6. :( 17:16 < superkuh> Too many extension cords. 17:16 < superkuh> It fell. 17:16 < superkuh> Out of warranty too. 17:17 < superkuh> Down from ~150lux to 20 lux in here. 17:17 < superkuh> Not to mention the wake-up function. 17:19 <@kanzure> overhead light? 17:24 < superkuh> There are no lights in this room. 17:24 < superkuh> It is small: http://superkuh.com/myapartment.jpg 17:25 < superkuh> My light fell from the plank it sat upon shown in the middle view, between the two shelves on the far wall. 17:25 < superkuh> Perfect for aiming at my soldering bench. 17:25 < superkuh> Or back wall for general lighting. 17:27 < superkuh> Currently 7 lux in here. 17:27 < superkuh> With all lights on. 17:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-71-79.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-71-79.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 17:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-71-79.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:45 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.134.64.123] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-71-79.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: quit] 18:41 <@kanzure> superkuh: how'd you get that image effect? is this hand-drawn? 18:42 <@kanzure> oh the guidelines suggest it's probably not 18:53 -!- PatrickMcLaren [~PatrickMc@c-98-217-184-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:54 < jrayhawk> kanzure you should get your actual testosterone measured so i can laugh at you 18:55 <@kanzure> laugh all you want.. :^) how do i do a smirk 18:56 <@kanzure> :|\ is sort of a stroke smirk 19:11 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:12 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 19:15 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 < superkuh> kanzure, It is google sketchup 7.1.0 on wine on linux on gnome2. I measured more parts of my apartment to make it. 19:35 <@kanzure> so it's a constrained model? 19:40 < superkuh> I don't know your jargon. 19:40 < superkuh> I measured everything physically. 19:40 < superkuh> The window parts and sizes are not realistic. 19:41 < superkuh> Just outer dimensions and general shape. 19:41 < superkuh> I took them from the google 3d warehouse. 19:41 <@kanzure> in cad software like sketchup or solidworks you "constrain" your models to have a given dimension 19:41 < superkuh> I designed the model for so I could see how large I could make a block/plank table. 19:41 <@kanzure> so if you pull or tug with your mouse in other directions the original model does not change its dimensions 19:42 <@kanzure> or relations between dimensions between multiple models 19:42 < superkuh> Ah. Yes. It is contstrained. 19:42 < ybit> https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapid=S312038BGfA 19:42 < ybit> i wasted time making that 19:43 < superkuh> Later I will be using it to model the mechanical design of the integration of my vacuum pump and chamber. 19:43 -!- marainein [~marainein@114-198-77-10.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:43 < superkuh> And crystallizer racks. 19:44 < ybit> the data: http://sprunge.us/FiZJ 19:44 < superkuh> I found a great patent and article from 1963 and 1944 respectively for growing near infrared birefringent beam splitters. 19:44 < superkuh> From sodium nitrate. 19:44 < superkuh> And it just requires a hot plate and some mica. 19:45 < superkuh> Freshly cleaved mica acting as a template for the single crystal. 19:45 < superkuh> Ordered the parts... have to for arrival. 19:46 < superkuh> +wait 19:52 < ybit> it confirms what i already know, and superkuh, how dare you talk about more interesting topics than me 19:53 < ybit> i don't know how you squeeze between your bed and bookshelf 19:53 < superkuh> I only go to the bathroom a few times a day. 19:58 <@kanzure> it surprised me to learn that women, on average, go to the bathroom 8x a day 19:58 < ybit> and guys tend to just it float in the air around them? 19:58 < ybit> +let 19:59 < ybit> that's a tmi moment worthy of booting someone from the channel 19:59 -!- ybit was kicked from ##hplusroadmap by kanzure [ybit] 19:59 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:59 < ybit> weee 19:59 < superkuh> It is a squishy squeeze past the bed. That's nearly a foot off blankets and sheets. 19:59 < superkuh> s/off/of/ 19:59 <@kanzure> superkuh: so you got rid of your roommates? 20:00 < superkuh> He broke the lease. I moved home, those issues I mentioned to you. I moved back out Oct 18th. 20:00 < superkuh> Yes, it's just me. 20:28 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.134.64.123] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:41 < fenn> apparently sacha chua does nothing but sleep on weekends http://home.sachachua.com/time/graph 20:48 < fenn> ybit: there's something wrong with your graph. we all know that visual basic is the most popular programming language :( 20:49 < fenn> diy epitaxy, sweet 20:56 < fenn> hm. personal clothing inventory http://home.sachachua.com/clothing/76 20:59 < fenn> http://home.sachachua.com/clothing_logs 21:01 <@kanzure> you're being shamed 21:03 < fenn> i have a clothing inventory also, it's just not complete yet because people keep dumping shit everywhere 21:03 < fenn> i'm sure if i lived in canada i'd have a complete inventory by now 21:04 < fenn> so, chlorella does some weird stuff to you 21:05 < fenn> very pleasant feeling in the belly, makes it almost impossible to feel sad about any particular thing 21:08 < fenn> feeling the lure of org mode but still wary of emacs 21:09 <@kanzure> that's not a good excuse 21:43 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:09 -!- falmot [~root@69-196-170-85.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:11 -!- falmot [~root@69-196-131-12.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:18 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] --- Log closed Mon Nov 07 00:00:31 2011