--- Log opened Mon Nov 07 00:00:31 2011 00:55 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-27-185.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:33 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: drazak_, augur, poptire, pasky 03:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: poptire 03:36 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- drazak [~ahdfadkfa@drazak.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- pasky [pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:40 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:45 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-101-068.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:32 < antipragmatist> hi 05:32 < antipragmatist> hi kanzure 05:33 < antipragmatist> kanzure, do you know anything about micrometer construction? 06:01 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-101-068.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:11 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: drazak 06:14 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: CIA-8 06:14 -!- ybit [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:14 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:14 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-67-171-214-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:14 -!- Stee| [~Steel@cpe-67-246-36-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:14 -!- foucist [~foucist@ps14150.dreamhost.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:14 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:14 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:19 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: http://gnusha.org/skdb/ http://groups.google.com/group/diybio http://bit.ly/diybionews http://gitduino.com/ http://gadaprize.org/ | logs: http://gnusha.org/logs/ 06:19 -!- Topic set by kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] [Thu Jan 20 10:44:20 2011] 06:19 [Users ##hplusroadmap] 06:19 [ AlonzoTG] [ drazak ] [ foucist ] [ marainein ] [ saurik ] [ wrldpc] 06:19 [ augur ] [ elmom ] [ gedankenstuecke] [ Mariu ] [ splicer ] [ ybit ] 06:19 [ bkero ] [ epitron ] [ gnusha ] [ milkshakes] [ strangewarp ] 06:19 [ CapNemo ] [ falmot ] [ ivan` ] [ nuba ] [ superkuh ] 06:19 [ cryptic ] [ fenn ] [ jrayhawk ] [ pasky ] [ uniqanomaly__] 06:19 [ dbolser ] [ ferrouswheel] [ kanzure ] [ poptire ] [ Utopiah ] 06:19 -!- Irssi: ##hplusroadmap: Total of 32 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal] 06:19 -!- Channel ##hplusroadmap created Thu Feb 25 23:40:30 2010 06:19 -!- Irssi: Join to ##hplusroadmap was synced in 6 secs 06:21 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-67-171-214-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- klafka [~textual@74.74.157.63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- Stee| [~Steel@cpe-67-246-36-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- CIA-8 [~CIA@cia.atheme.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:24 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:19 -!- Stee|_ [81a12471@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.161.36.113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:19 < Stee|_> kanzure, is there a good hplus online journal in the style of an academic journal? 07:19 < Stee|_> ie requiring a specific LaTeX format, citations, etc.? 07:32 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:16 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- Stee|_ [81a12471@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.161.36.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:17 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- Steel_ [8071f7dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.113.247.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-47-237.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:17 < kanzure> " 09:17 < kanzure> The mythical “$1,000 genome” will be here next year, said Jonathan Rothberg, CEO of sequencing technology company Ion Torrent, at MIT’s Emerging Technology conference," 09:17 < kanzure> welp, time to start collecting hair samples from celebrities 09:18 < kanzure> or professors 09:19 < Steel_> kanzure: Utility level of an open publishing online journal for diy/not so diy hplus stuff, with original authors pointing out areas that further work could be developed? 09:21 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22 < eudoxia> H+ arxic 09:22 < eudoxia> arxiv* 09:22 < eudoxia> I'm not sure why but it sounds hilarious 09:29 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 < kanzure> Steel_: rightn ow we call that blogs 09:30 < Steel_> yeah 09:30 < Steel_> those are terrible, disjointed, and don't require citations 09:31 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-47-237.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 -!- Steel_ [8071f7dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.113.247.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:21 < kanzure> so the p16 surface marker antagonist looks a little peculiar.. 10:21 < kanzure> it's in the news this week for "pausing" aging 10:21 < kanzure> by killing senescent cells 10:22 < kanzure> but this seems suspect because aging isn't necessarily caused by non-dividing cells 10:26 < kanzure> "I wonder if it would be possible to produce a humanized monoclonal antibody against p16-INK4a and via regular infusions, eliminate senescent cells immunologically. These cells already are cleared by the immune system within reason, however they still manage to make up 5-10% of the cell population." 10:26 < kanzure> "A problem is p16-INK4a is intracellular so antibodies may not get to them. Need to find a senescent-cell specific surface receptor." 10:27 < kanzure> "Another key finding -- only shown in the supplements and barely mentioned in the paper -- is that clearing senescent cells had no effect on lifespan. They say this is due to these mice dying primarily of heart disease which is not affected by the treatment. So while the study shows that senescent cells can cause age-related phenotypes they seem to only contribute to a subset of these." 12:14 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.33] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:34 < antipragmatist> hi people. 15:34 < antipragmatist> hey kanzure. 15:34 < antipragmatist> how are doing this eveni 15:35 < antipragmatist> i'm setting micrometer screws on my stm 15:35 < kanzure> okay. 15:37 < antipragmatist> that is great, im fine too. i'm setting up micrometer screws have you done this before? I need to insure it is accurate 15:42 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- klafka [~textual@74.74.157.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:52 < antipragmatist> micrometer calibration is difficult 15:53 < antipragmatist> thinking about creating myself a laser interferometer to facilitate 15:59 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:28 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- antipragmatist [~yaaic@mobile-166-147-102-024.mycingular.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:20 < kanzure> http://www.gaite-lyrique.net/les-conferences/evenement/do-it-yourself-biology#.TrKt8EPcSDo.twitter 17:20 < kanzure> hrm why don't i get to be in france 17:37 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: No rescuer hath the rescuer, no lord hath the champion, no mother and no father, only nothingness.] 17:41 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:54 * ybit just read logs of conversations with an ex-gf 17:54 < ybit> girlfriends are such a blissful hell 17:55 < ybit> and a terribly inefficient use of one's time 17:55 < ybit> and i state the obvious too often 18:00 -!- strangewarp [~christian@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:00 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:25 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:31 -!- Semeiotike [~Semeiotik@111.sub-174-254-87.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:36 -!- Semeiotike [~Semeiotik@111.sub-174-254-87.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: -a-] 18:37 -!- Semeiotike [~Semeiotik@111.sub-174-254-87.myvzw.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:59 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-67-171-214-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 19:14 -!- nchaimov [~nchaimov@c-67-171-214-94.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:18 < Stee|> kanzure, I told you about shapiro's papers on nanoparticle control in fluidic systems right? 19:24 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:37 < kanzure> uhh possibly 19:37 < kanzure> i've read lots of shapiro stuff, i think 19:38 < Stee|> has anyone in the diybio community implemented? 19:43 < kanzure> no- can you link to the paper again? 19:44 < Stee|> yeah 19:45 < Stee|> http://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/1903/9437/1/ChaudharyShapiro_SteeringOfMultipleParticesByEOF_IEEECST_Jul06.pdf 19:45 < Stee|> http://web.mit.edu/andrew3/Public/Papers/2005/Armani/2005_Int%20J%20Robust%20Nonlin_Control%20of%20microfluidic%20systems%20two_Armani.pdf 19:45 < Stee|> there's some other literature as well 20:23 -!- klafka1 [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 -!- klafka [~textual@cpe-74-74-157-63.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:36 -!- convivial [~convivial@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 < convivial> hi kanzure 20:36 -!- convivial [~convivial@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 20:36 -!- Detergentizer [~whossus@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 < Detergentizer> Hi kanzure 20:38 < kanzure> hi Detergentizer 20:38 < Detergentizer> hi. 20:38 < Detergentizer> I had a queestion but forgot. 20:38 < Detergentizer> :( 20:39 < Detergentizer> do u know anyone selling a CNC cheap? 20:39 < Stee|> 'cheap' 20:39 < Detergentizer> that url about molding ones own safm from plastic is more expensive than buying one. 20:40 < Detergentizer> you need some kind of ijection modling system 20:40 < Mariu> see you guys 20:40 < Detergentizer> so if I can find a cheap CNC I can make one from steal 20:41 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Quit: Damn it, Cam ! Solar flare. We've got a shock wave headed straight for us.] 20:42 < Detergentizer> oh that is the question. 20:42 < Detergentizer> kanzure: do you hafe cnc so how much do you chaerge to make part 20:57 -!- Detergentizer [~whossus@c-98-226-61-242.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:13 < kanzure> yeah make one from steal 21:40 < foucist> kanzure: so, you are not aware of any cheap CNCs? 21:51 < kanzure> http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/948/29316400025966429506346.jpg 21:51 < kanzure> foucist: yeah, there's tons 22:14 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 22:19 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:41 -!- wrldpc [~wrldpc@p1222-ipad206yamaguchi.yamaguchi.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 22:44 -!- Fiohnel [~r3idslash@111.94.244.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] --- Log closed Tue Nov 08 00:00:32 2011