--- Log opened Sat Jan 07 00:00:03 2012
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03:34 < bkero> I am a transhumanist bootcamp.
03:36 < sylph_mako> Who here would sign up for a one on one bootcamp.
03:38 < sylph_mako> There is no rest when you train with Pai Mei.
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06:38 < klafka> ooy
06:38 < klafka> anyone awake?
06:55 < archels> 'lo
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07:27 <@kanzure> sylph: i guess i would have to run it
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14:49 < ybit> let's just have it online
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14:57 <@kanzure> ybit: people wouldn't pay for that
14:57 <@kanzure> look at singularityu
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15:29 < foucist> kanzure: fuck payment.. i'll beat you up so you can beat me up
15:29 < foucist> transhumanist fightcamp
15:30 < ybit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmH6C3ZGNQU&feature=player_embedded
15:30 < ybit> this commencement speech makes me think they are in a church
16:03 <@kanzure> foucist: me spending thousands of bucks on each person isn't a sustainable plan
16:03 < foucist> kanzure: well i have no idea what your plan is, so i have no idea why it would cost thousands of bucks
16:09 < eudoxia> you could always use that DIYbio thingee to create bacteria that turn waste into cocaine and pay for it
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18:00 < klafka> kanzure you suggested i use backbone right?
18:00 <@kanzure> yes, you should try it
18:01 < klafka> yeah i'm playing with it now
18:01 < klafka> i wish it was documented a bit better
18:01 < klafka> well it kind of is but i believe there are lots of underlying things i don't understand
18:03 <@kanzure> you have to basically look at the example apps
18:03 < klafka> yeah that's what i'm doing now
18:03 <@kanzure> the documentation is okay, but practical things like "how the heck do i do anactual project" not so much
18:03 < klafka> i'm rewriting my front end to use it
18:03 < klafka> that's my goal for 'first weekend in sf'
18:04 <@kanzure> not bad, but that's mroe like a one-night thing
18:04 <@kanzure> :P
18:04 < klafka> eh i'm not that good
18:04 < klafka> shit man i tell you i suvck at  javascript all the time
18:04 < klafka> sort of weird i now have a job doing javascript
18:04 < klafka> let's hope i don't lose it!
18:05 <@kanzure> you should also look up futures and promises
18:06 <@kanzure> in js
18:10 < klafka> hey so can you elucidate something for me
18:10 < klafka> so in http://arturadib.com/hello-backbonejs/docs/5.html and in like https://github.com/sdeleuze/spring-backbone-todo/blob/master/src/main/webapp/todos.js
18:10 < klafka> they are always in the end calling new
18:10 < klafka> but crockford in his javascript book says you should never call new
18:10 < klafka> should i just ignore him pretty much?
18:11 < klafka> his complaint with new seems to be if you forget to use it you're modifying the global object
18:18 <@kanzure> *shrug* i use new in these situations
18:28 < klafka> you know one thing i'm not seeing is can i give a collection a json file and have it populate ?
18:29 <@kanzure> give it a file?
18:29 <@kanzure> erm
18:30 < klafka> well make a RESTful call that returns a JSON object
18:30 < klafka> that has a list of objects that has all the attributes for a bunch of models
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18:30 <@kanzure> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6744569/populating-a-collection-from-a-json-file
18:30 <@kanzure> but the return json doesn't look restul to me ;)
18:30 < klafka> liek [ {foo:1,bar:2} ,{foo:2,bar:3}] makes a collection of models
18:31 <@kanzure> ok, you just mean normal json
18:31 < klafka> yeah
18:31 < klafka> see i thought you could maybe do something like this
18:31 < klafka> but  i find the doc really terse and confusing
18:31 < klafka> also their irc channel isn't very active
18:31 < klafka> -_-
18:31 <@kanzure> oh nevermind, they did a custom "parse" method in that link
18:39 < klafka> i'm just ignoring that
18:42 < Juul> kanzure, du you know a good list of all free/open 3D model resources (for printing)
18:50 < Juul> specifically, i'm looking for simple musical instruments that are 3d printable
18:56 <@kanzure> free/open? thingiverse, basically
18:56 <@kanzure> but there's also crummy commercial providers like 3dpartsstream, traceparts
18:57 < Juul> ok
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20:12 < eudoxia> So the XFF videos are up now
20:13 < eudoxia> I think I'll go to the bathroom and cry while I laugh
20:13 < eudoxia> this is all
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20:34 <@kanzure> i coulda told you that :P
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