--- Log opened Mon Jan 16 00:00:17 2012 00:09 -!- Stee| [~Steel@cpe-67-246-36-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:40 -!- dopklop [7248f6d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.72.246.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:41 < dopklop> good evening 00:42 < dopklop> this is a transhumanism channel? 00:53 <@kanzure> yep 00:53 <@kanzure> dopklop: what's up? 00:58 < dopklop> just saw a link to this channel on reddit and was wondering why its named #hplusroadmap 00:58 < dopklop> are people here working on a roadmap? 00:59 <@kanzure> well, yes 00:59 <@kanzure> there was a transhumanist technical roadmap 01:00 <@kanzure> some combination of do-it-yourself biohacking and other projects 01:00 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by ChanServ 01:02 < dopklop> *was* a roadmap? 01:02 < dopklop> is it current? 01:02 < kanzure> nope 01:02 < kanzure> i've been busy being busy 01:02 < kanzure> and we're all too lazy to change the channel name 01:03 < dopklop> I cannot help but think governments would hate the idea of citizens biohacking 01:03 < kanzure> yeh, the fbi has had me (and others of us) in as consultants on .. policy issues 01:04 < dopklop> biohackers might go the way of Iranian nuclear scientists 01:04 < kanzure> the two primary fbi peeps assigned to us are agent edward you (yes, agent you) and agent nathan head.. 01:04 < kanzure> http://bit.ly/diybionews2 01:05 < dopklop> great link, thanks! 01:12 < foucist> agent you give yourself great agent head! 01:13 < kanzure> http://web.archive.org/web/20080708235522/http://www.fbi.gov/hq/nsb/wmd/images/hrtppe.jpg 01:15 < dopklop> What is that, zombie apocalypse cosplay? 01:15 < kanzure> that image used to be on their 'bioterrorism task force' webpage 01:16 < kanzure> dopklop: http://www.amazon.com/Biopunk-Scientists-Hack-Software-Life/dp/1617230022 01:22 < dopklop> just wait till biohackers violate some corporations IP. They'll lobby to outlaw and criminalize it :( 01:23 < kanzure> ah, but then only the outlaws will know biology.. 01:24 < dopklop> we're all outlaws in the eyes of a good government proesecuter 01:26 < kanzure> alright, i need to sleep 01:26 < kanzure> good night 01:27 < dopklop> night 01:38 -!- dopklop [7248f6d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.72.246.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:54 -!- marainein [~marainein@114-198-110-145.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:07 -!- strages_1ome [~strages@adsl-98-67-172-85.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strages_home 02:12 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-28-125.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-174-49.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-174-49.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 02:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined 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< kanzure> oh god :( http://test.humanityplus.org/ 12:04 < ybit> what about it? 12:04 < kanzure> ybit: http://test.humanityplus.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PeopleMosaic_with-text.png 12:05 < kanzure> that's what's wrong with it. 12:05 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:05 < ybit> hah, yeah... 12:06 < ybit> de grey and goertzel seem to be doing things 12:06 < ybit> i mihgt be wrong 12:06 < kanzure> goertzel's busy ostricizing me or something 12:07 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:07 < ybit> hrm, why? 12:07 < ybit> legal stuff? 12:07 < kanzure> yeah.. 12:07 < kanzure> whatever :P 12:08 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:08 < kanzure> hah "I was writing this more in the sense that kids at BioCurious (and the DIY Bio Movement in general) are doing electrophoresis to transfer DNA from glowing jellyfish to bacteria. This is just a few (two?) years after someone got a Nobel prize for that." 12:08 < kanzure> that's a little unfair- the noble prize process can be very slow sometimes 12:09 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:12 < delinquentme> the nobel prize was also given to obama 12:13 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:13 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:14 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:14 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:14 < ybit> kanzure: if you are no longer associted with h+, why are you still listed here: http://humanityplus.org/projects/gadaprize/ 12:14 < ybit> "Questions and comments should be directed to Bryan Bishop (Asst. Director of R&D, Humanity+) or by phone at +1-512-203-0507." 12:15 < kanzure> because they don't know how to edit websites 12:15 < kanzure> it's been like that for almost a year 12:15 < delinquentme> @_@ 12:15 < delinquentme> who doesnt know how to website?? 12:15 < kanzure> the people at humanity+ 12:15 < delinquentme> my 15 year old brother does SQL injections 12:15 < ybit> yeah, now that i think of it, this has been brought up before 12:15 < delinquentme> they're not .. advancing ? 12:15 < kanzure> delinquentme: you have no idea how fucked up they are 12:16 < kanzure> they are all talk 12:16 < kanzure> btw, i'd like to meet your brother 12:16 < delinquentme> well sometimes talking is ok 12:16 < delinquentme> its better than doing nothing 12:16 < delinquentme> but doing sheet is le gosu 12:16 * delinquentme sees what he did there 12:16 < kanzure> delinquentme: these are people who have been in the "transhumanist community" for 30+ years and still haven't bothered to learn molecular biology 12:18 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:18 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:19 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:20 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:22 < Urchin> humanity+ draws a lot of members from philosophers and such, who are predictably not good in computer stuff 12:22 < Urchin> I've seen some poets in my time there 12:23 < Urchin> I'd say technical competence is not a norm there 12:23 < kanzure> i tried to inject some technical projects into their organization 12:23 < kanzure> so that's how gadaprize.org happened.. 12:23 < kanzure> but yeah, it's just not worth it 12:25 < Urchin> I've been mostly absent from the transhumanist movement for a few years now 12:25 < kanzure> Urchin: do you have an skills/background? 12:25 < Urchin> I'm a physics student 12:25 < Urchin> with some computer science education 12:25 < kanzure> Urchin: have you caught up with diybio? 12:26 < kanzure> http://bit.ly/diybionews2 12:26 < Urchin> I know it exists, and has made ground in the time that I was absent 12:26 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/diybio 12:26 < Urchin> but I'm not particularly interested 12:26 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/ 12:26 < kanzure> ah i see 12:26 < kanzure> and what's your interest in transhumanism then? 12:26 < Urchin> I was looking at nanotech when I was really enthusiastic 12:27 < kanzure> Urchin: did you see that i acquired the cvs repository for nanoengineer? 12:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/nanoengineer 12:27 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev 12:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/nanotech/ 12:27 < kanzure> i figured it was better than letting nanorex die a quiet death 12:28 < Urchin> it's a fork of nanorex? 12:29 -!- |Omega| [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:29 -!- |Omega| [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:29 < Urchin> like I said, I'm not current in what's happening 12:29 < kanzure> nanorex was a company that was developing nanoengineer 12:30 < kanzure> but then mark decided to close nanorex 12:30 < kanzure> nanoengineer was "open source" but not the code repository 12:32 -!- Guest1154 [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- Guest1154 [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:32 < Urchin> well, great that you kept it alive 12:35 < Urchin> I was recently wondering what happened to that project, though I forgot it's name 12:37 < kanzure> maybe you will contribute patches/commits 12:38 < Urchin> perhaps, if I get into it 12:38 < Urchin> or when I get into it 12:40 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:41 < Urchin> it's written in C? 12:41 < kanzure> python 12:41 < kanzure> mostly python 12:42 < Urchin> I can live with that combination 12:43 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:43 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:46 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:47 < Urchin> now to wait for omega to get to his client 12:50 < Urchin> lol, now that you mention it, my own chapter's website is in old dated html and hasn't been updated in years 12:51 -!- Hasp [~Hasp@c-98-229-98-154.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 < kanzure> hi hasp 12:52 < Hasp> Hello 12:52 < Urchin> and that was a typo fix 12:52 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:52 < Hasp> How's it going? 12:52 < Urchin> the last update I mean 12:53 < Urchin> I just realized how ancient the website for my chapter of humanity+ really is 12:53 < kanzure> html4.1 heck yeah 12:53 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:53 < kanzure> leading butt of technology 12:54 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:54 < Urchin> it even features a blurry WTA logo, lol 12:54 < Urchin> I mean, look at it: http://transhumanizam.fizika.org 12:54 < kanzure> haha .jpg 12:55 < Hasp> Haha it looks like it's been there for a little while 12:55 < kanzure> and your forum links to... http://www.phpbbplanet.com/ 12:55 < kanzure> i'm not impressed 12:56 < Urchin> it was made in 2007, with a typo fix in 2009 12:56 < Urchin> lol 12:57 < Hasp> lol 12:57 < kanzure> Hasp: what brings you around here? 12:57 < ybit> ideas for making money with a reprap? 12:57 < Hasp> Kanzure, an interest in transhumanism. Looking to get my feet wet with amateur biology 12:57 < Urchin> links are in the sorryest state 12:59 < kanzure> Hasp: alright, cool 12:59 < kanzure> Hasp: do you have any biology training 13:00 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:00 < Hasp> Kanzure: I wish. I'm a highschool student who knows a bit about comp sci, but I haven't had the chance to get further into bio 13:00 < kanzure> um.. why are you in high school? 13:00 < kanzure> that's a very peculiar life choice 13:01 < Hasp> What do you mean? 13:01 < kanzure> it's just not that useful if you're actually interested in amateur biology or comp sci 13:01 < kanzure> they rarely tend to have somenoe around that knows about either of those things; rarely both 13:01 < kanzure> *even more rarely both 13:02 < Hasp> Well, dropping out of school certainly wouldn't help 13:02 < kanzure> uh 13:02 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:02 < kanzure> well anyway, let's overlook that 13:02 < Urchin> lol 13:02 < kanzure> Hasp: what sort of compsci do you know 13:02 < Hasp> You're suggesting I don't graduate? : P 13:03 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:03 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:03 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:03 < kanzure> if you really value a high school diploma, GEDs are pretty easy to grab 13:03 < kanzure> but honestly, nobody has ever asked to see whether or not i have a diploma from a high school 13:03 < Hasp> Going onto college certainly helps, though 13:03 < kanzure> only if you want to get a college degree, 13:03 < kanzure> they can't really stop you from registering for classes 13:03 < kanzure> just like any other adult 13:04 < Hasp> I would like a college degree, though 13:04 < kanzure> but yeah, what sorta compsci stuff do you know 13:04 < Hasp> Scripting, and I'm learning robotics programming at the moment as well 13:05 < kanzure> what sorta scripting if i may sk 13:05 < kanzure> *ask 13:05 < Hasp> Which language or for what purpose? 13:05 < kanzure> tools, and i guess whatever you've built :) 13:06 < kanzure> yeah 13:07 < Hasp> For robotics I'm using C/C++, for my general scripting I use Perl 13:07 < kanzure> ah okay. cool. 13:07 < kanzure> there's some amateur biology stuff people have contributed to CPAN 13:07 < Urchin> perl is used by biologists a lot 13:07 < kanzure> from the diybio group.. let's see.. 13:07 < kanzure> http://search.cpan.org/~jcline/Robotics-0.23/ 13:07 < Hasp> Sweet. I've been checking out the BioPerl page too 13:07 < kanzure> bioperl is more about bioinformatics 13:08 < Hasp> Ah, I'll have a look 13:08 < kanzure> this is for lab automation ;) 13:08 < Hasp> Excellent! Thank you 13:08 < kanzure> delinquentme can also rant about his liquid handling robot he built 13:08 < Hasp> I'd love to hear about it 13:08 < kanzure> delinquentme: test test 13:09 < delinquentme> true @ urchin 13:09 < delinquentme> reading the thread :D 13:09 < delinquentme> jcline is a good dude 13:10 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:10 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:10 < delinquentme> yeah Hasp this is a cool place .. have a robot! https://github.com/delinquentme/LH002/raw/master/images/LH002_full_01.png 13:10 < Hasp> Oooh... purdy 13:11 < delinquentme> Oh and this is VERY VERY sexy: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/emergingtech/robotic-surgeons-get-open-source-boost/3101 13:11 < delinquentme> they've actually got it prototyped and everything 13:11 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- Omega- [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:12 < delinquentme> and right now I'm bugtesting some BioPython code via modEncodes API 13:12 < delinquentme> #hot 13:13 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:13 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:13 < Hasp> *clap* 13:14 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:14 < delinquentme> Hasp but yeah welcome to the future we're building things 13:14 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:14 < delinquentme> You got things you're interested in working on? 13:15 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:15 < kanzure> delinquentme: he seems to have some python/c skill, so we could probably throw him at ..something 13:15 < delinquentme> Umm i second kanzure's statement about college but finishing highschool might be OK 13:16 < delinquentme> well what does he want to do 13:16 < delinquentme> PS did i mention that Pitt has an Anton cluster kanzure ? 13:16 < Hasp> Biochem, most likely 13:16 < delinquentme> found out about it ... they keep this shit really locked down .. wont even respond to my emails 13:16 < delinquentme> Hasp, good focus 13:16 < delinquentme> Biochem and programming = hotness for sure 13:17 < Hasp> I was thinking Biochem major, comp sci minor 13:17 < kanzure> why are you getting a degree? 13:18 < delinquentme> like 13:18 < delinquentme> school isnt bad 13:18 < delinquentme> but if you dont want to spend the cash you dont have to 13:18 -!- Omega [~Omega@started.the.rvlution.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 < kanzure> Hasp: if it's to get a job, you should just get an internship during your first or second semester, use that and call it quits on college 13:18 < delinquentme> disclaimer: it might also ruin your love of science 13:19 < kanzure> delinquentme: and most of the time, high school students don't have that cash anyway 13:19 < Hasp> So I can continue to higher education. The reason for that is twofold: personally that I love learning, practically that it will allow higher positions in employment 13:19 < delinquentme> umm 13:19 < kanzure> ok, so if you just want employment then you should go do an internship asap 13:19 < delinquentme> it DID 13:19 < Hasp> Well, I sort of "cheat" in that I come from a well-off family 13:19 < delinquentme> for your parents yes 13:19 < kanzure> degrees don't mean much anymore 13:19 < delinquentme> but you're not getting a job in anything high right off the bat 13:19 < Hasp> I've been looking for internships 13:19 < delinquentme> and better yet you can get someone ELSE to pay for your college 13:19 < kanzure> except maybe programming 13:19 < delinquentme> esp if you're @ and edu inst 13:20 < kanzure> anyway, 13:20 < delinquentme> you can go the route of college and only use it so you can ask profs questions 13:20 < kanzure> consider spending cash on your projects instead 13:21 < kanzure> (especially if you're careful about the project scope) 13:21 < Hasp> I live near Cambrige, so there are a lot of businesses which snipe college students 13:22 < kanzure> Hasp: what sort of projects would be interested in doing in amateur biology? 13:22 < kanzure> are you more into dna synthesis, watching birds, biohacking, molecular stuff.. 13:22 < Hasp> Anything molecular, usually 13:22 < Hasp> I'm not really into macroscopic biology 13:23 < delinquentme> well being a chemist mol bio is your thing 13:23 < delinquentme> but molecular bio is 13:23 < delinquentme> um 13:23 < delinquentme> HUGE 13:24 < Hasp> I know 13:24 < delinquentme> any interests more niche? 13:24 < Hasp> Well, because I don't have much experience in the field, it's hard to say what I'd want to spend a lot of time on 13:24 < delinquentme> disclaimer: we can niche down all day long .. even I've only narrowed it down to : big computers, AI and bioinformatics 13:24 < delinquentme> Hasp, go read 13:24 < delinquentme> fiercebiotech 13:24 < delinquentme> technology review 13:24 < delinquentme> synthetic bio is a hot thing right now 13:25 < delinquentme> anything with drew endy or whats his face 13:25 < delinquentme> venter 13:25 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us:9000/random has some review videos 13:25 < Hasp> Syntheic bio is quite interesting 13:25 < Hasp> Sweet, thanks 13:25 < Mariu> like DARPA creating synthetic soldiers ? 13:26 < Mariu> or is that a rumour ? 13:26 < delinquentme> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328475.100-gold-nano-ears-set-to-listen-in-on-cells.html 13:26 < delinquentme> this is cool too 13:26 < delinquentme> nanotech "speakers" 13:26 < Hasp> Nice 13:27 < Hasp> (I have to go soon) 13:27 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 13:30 < Hasp> Thanks a bunch for all of your guys help in here so far 13:36 < delinquentme> WOWWWWW 13:36 < delinquentme> this is awesome 13:36 < delinquentme> Hasp, have a good one 13:36 < delinquentme> this script works 13:37 < Hasp> See you all later. 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This contract violation then meant that the license to acquire or use the software was violated, and Lynn was using a copyrighted work (the software) without the consent of the copyright holder -- thus a copyright violation -- which gets Cisco into federal court rather than state court" 16:04 < uniqanomaly> from http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/349 16:04 < kanzure> i was giong to dump 16:04 < kanzure> dfjdfjdk 16:04 < kanzure> ignore that 16:11 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@203.173.244.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- SDr [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- SDr [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:45 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-67-249.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 < epitron> uniqanomaly: jesus 18:05 < kanzure> hi epitron 18:05 < uniqanomaly> epitron: yes? 18:05 < epitron> hi kanzure 18:06 < epitron> uniqanomaly: i was reacting to the link 18:08 < uniqanomaly> ;) 18:12 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-64-67-249.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:16 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:36 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 18:37 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-116.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 18:41 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-116.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- _sol_ [Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:51 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:51 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-174-49.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@c-24-118-174-49.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:51 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 19:00 < ybit> g'day JayDugger 19:08 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:11 < uniqanomaly> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/opinion/research-bought-then-paid-for.html?_r=1 wtf 19:21 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mbwdgoxhyzfgvsih] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxdjaeludpdqwxfg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxdjaeludpdqwxfg] has quit [Changing host] 19:53 -!- ziyadb [u4806@unaffiliated/ziyadb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- ziyadb [u4806@unaffiliated/ziyadb] has quit [Changing host] 19:53 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kxdjaeludpdqwxfg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:28 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:30 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:30 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 20:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-67-171-66-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:39 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@DSLPool-net208-2.wctc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- NightFury [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:09 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@DSLPool-net208-2.wctc.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:09 -!- klafka [~textual@c-71-204-150-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:32 -!- _sol_ [Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:14 -!- uniqanomaly [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-116.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Quit: uniqanomaly] 22:22 < kanzure> http://total-impact.org/ "Create a collection of research objects you want to track. We'll provide you a report of the total impact of this collection." 22:23 < kanzure> hrm.. 22:23 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:23 < kanzure> hi ziyadb 22:29 < Mariu> later everyone 22:29 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:39 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-73-196.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:15 -!- AgentGoodHead [2af17173@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.113.115] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 < AgentGoodHead> AgentGoodhead is in the house 23:20 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 < kanzure> hi agent good head.. 23:22 < AgentGoodHead> hello kanzure 23:48 -!- AgentGoodHead [2af17173@gateway/web/freenode/ip.42.241.113.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:55 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Jan 17 00:00:19 2012