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02:19 < Stee|> is late.
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03:56 < rkos> good series for you  biology hating physicists: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z__BHVFP0Lk :P
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04:48 < utopiah_> Reconstructing Speech from Human Auditory Cortex http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001251
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07:57 < kanzure> utopiah_: neat
07:59 < klafka> kanzure
08:00 < kanzure> klafka: are you dead yet
08:00 < klafka> been at the ER all night
08:00 < klafka> just got back
08:00 < klafka> so turns out i had 'abdominal pain'
08:01 < klafka> shock
08:01 < kanzure> did they tell you that you had gas
08:01 < klafka> they told me i probably had an inflamed colon
08:01 < klafka> i mean my side still hurts
08:02 < klafka> anyway need to pass out!
08:02 < klafka> ttyl
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08:39 < kanzure> hi gene_hacker
08:43 < kanzure> looks like dan heeks is recommending people move on to freecad?
08:43 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/heekscad-devel/browse_thread/thread/7c3a0ba4c09efa25#
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12:10 < bkero> O_o
12:11 < bkero> must not bode well for heekscad
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16:00 < delinquentme> aww yeahh WB klafka
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18:18 < kanzure> hi eudoxia , Juul
18:18 < eudoxia> yo
18:18 < kanzure> Juul: apparently lbl has a good microfluidics lab?
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18:20 < Juul> kanzure, i was not aware? i am in an external lab building some miles away
18:23 < kanzure> that's not fun
18:23 < kanzure> you should go raid them
18:23 < kanzure> what's the deal anyway? they're keeping you away from the exciting stuff?
18:27 < delinquentme> kanzure, lbl?
18:27 < delinquentme> you applying for my job??
18:28 < delinquentme> they've got a bunch of openings I think
18:28 < delinquentme> bioinformatics programmers and web kids for a project called Kbase
18:29 < Urchin> what's the project about?
18:30 < Urchin> I know some bioinformatics programmers
18:32 < klafka> me too
18:32 < klafka> lawrence berkeley?
18:39 < kanzure> delinquentme: no, juul works at lbl
18:40 < kanzure> delinquentme: sorry but that startup you linked to didn't look that exciting (snp diagnostics?)
18:45 < Juul> kanzure, i'm at JBEI which is where there was room for the BIOFAB
18:45 < Juul> BIOFAB is shutting down though
18:45 < Juul> not sure if a new zero, one or more new BIOFABs will take its place
18:52 < Juul> yeah kbase is looking for programmers
18:52 < Juul> word is they're having a hard time finding programmers with bio knowledge
18:54 < delinquentme> Juul, @_@
18:54 < delinquentme> really!
18:55 < Juul> delinquentme, yup
18:55 < delinquentme> I've emailed them back and forth a few times but they've not picked out which framework they're wanting to use
18:55 < Juul> ok
18:55 < Juul> "Candidates at all levels of experience, including recent college graduates, are being considered."
18:55 < Juul> http://genomics.lbl.gov/wp/?page_id=250
18:55 < delinquentme> Any chance I could get an introduction to some of the guys who are working on that currently?
18:56 < Juul> i haven't spoken to them myself yet
18:56 < Juul> it's on my todo for next week to talk to some of the people involved though
18:57 < delinquentme> they've also got another opening for a bioinformatics programmer
18:57 < delinquentme> but I think Kbase is what I'd tweak over
18:57 < Juul> ok
18:57 < delinquentme> but yeah if you run into anyone i'd love a mention
18:57 < Juul> ok
18:58 < Juul> what do you do? what do you want to do? what is your background? where do you live?
18:58 < delinquentme> Live in pittsburgh and im a programmer / wannabe bioinformaticist
18:58 < delinquentme> and a lucky past with mathematics
18:59 < Juul> ok
18:59 < kanzure> Juul: nate mccorkle is also working with jbei, btw
18:59 < Juul> kanzure, wasn't that only a summer project? or am i mixing him up with someone else?
18:59 < delinquentme> Juul, i could shoot you my resume if it would help .. but yeah I'm comfy w machine learning and i've got all the web application background
18:59 < kanzure> Juul: possibly
18:59 < Juul> yeah i just image googled him
19:00 < Juul> i did meet up with him once
19:00 < Juul> at jbei
19:00 < Juul> but i don't think he's still there
19:00 < kanzure> ah. he's on the diybio group / in here
19:00 < Juul> delinquentme, ok, i'm not sure i can be of any help, but feel free
19:00 < kanzure> wait i'm sure you know him..
19:00 < kanzure> it would be impossible for you to not know him already
19:00 < Juul> hehe
19:00 < Juul> yeah i met him once
19:01 < Juul> i'm just bad with names
19:01 < Juul> i'm thinking about being a jobless hacker
19:02 < kanzure> great what do you want to hack on
19:02 < Juul> whichever of my ideas inspire me to hack on it :)
19:03 < Juul> i just started a project for denmark
19:03 < delinquentme> hack on : issues we can throw computation at to get useful stuff out
19:03 < delinquentme> was just talking to klafka about this in #biology
19:03 < kanzure> delinquentme: that sounds like handwaving to me..
19:03 < Juul> to get less people paying ~1% of their wages to the state church by making an simple web app for signing out
19:04 < kanzure> signing out of what
19:04 < Juul> maybe i can convince some of them to donate a bit to a good cause instead
19:04 < Juul> the state church
19:04 < Juul> most people are auto-enrolled
19:04 < Juul> because baptism auto-enrolls you
19:04 < Juul> and getting out is a bit bothersome and bureaucratic
19:05 < Juul> so we're gonna abstract away the bureaucracy
19:05 < Juul> make a nice little website with digital signatures
19:05 < delinquentme> sounds like a brain child I had
19:05 < delinquentme> why do we still need representatives
19:06 < delinquentme> an application could take care of this
19:06 < delinquentme> in addition you could designate people to act as your voting proxy on particular issues
19:06 < kanzure> um, direct democracy is not your brain child
19:06 < kanzure> wtf
19:06 < Juul> yes, replacing the current systems for government with something that takes advantage of technology is an idea many have been / are actively working on
19:06 < delinquentme> say you're not technically savvy but you've got a trusted friend who is.. awesome .. designate them to proxy vote for you on all items which fall under the tech category
19:07 < kanzure> canonizer has been trying to do consensus democracy but it breaks horribly
19:07 < kanzure> i just want to be able to fork if i hate your political decisions
19:07 < delinquentme> well the proxy thing would be hugely powerful
19:07 < JayDugger> Heh, heh...seasteading, kanzure?
19:07 < JayDugger> Want to read Mahan first.
19:07 < kanzure> JayDugger: probably not
19:07 < delinquentme> Juul, could you PM me your email
19:07 < kanzure> delinquentme: he's on diybio, you probably have it
19:08 < JayDugger> Yeah, me neither. I'd love for it to work, but America rules the waves.
19:08 < delinquentme> or if you think im best off just to stick with only the applications thats cool too
19:08 < kanzure> JayDugger: that's not why..
19:09 < Juul> delinquentme, https://labitat.dk/wiki/User:Juul
19:13 < delinquentme> Juul, ^^ this is cool  and embedded stuff is pretty cool as well
19:13 < delinquentme> robotics
19:13 < delinquentme> nom nom
19:13 < Juul> :)
19:14 < Juul> does anyone know anything about a group called "The Next Edge" ?
19:19 < Juul> just logged on to facebook and it came up with: persons you may know: Nathan McCorkle
19:24 < klafka> seasteading
19:24 < klafka> lol
19:28 < kanzure> klafka: still dying?
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19:38 < delinquentme> lolol jbei way
19:39 < klafka> lol
19:39 < klafka> meh
19:39 < klafka> not super dying
19:40 < klafka> i'm reading the big short
19:40 < klafka> i keep getting distracted by things to do
19:40 < klafka> hopefully i'll be asleep soon enoug
19:54 < roksprok> klafka: how do you like the big short? do you feel like you are learning stuff or does it just make you mad
19:54 < klafka> it's an interesting story
19:54 < roksprok> sometimes politics/econ books just make me fed up with how awful things are
19:54 < klafka> it doesnt make me mad yet
19:54 < roksprok> thats good i'll have to pick it up
19:54 < klafka> ithink i've almost become accepting to how terrible they are
19:54 < klafka> i want a more rigorous explanation though
19:55 < klafka> a story is great but umm
19:55 < klafka> i want more info so far
19:55 < klafka> i'm only a bit into it
19:55 < roksprok> hope it gets meatier
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20:36 < delinquentme> serial experiments lain is not working out for me
20:37 < kanzure> it's definitely depressing
20:37 < kanzure> depression isn't hawt
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