--- Log opened Mon Feb 27 00:00:28 2012 00:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-38.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-38.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 00:09 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:15 -!- vrs [vrs@unaffiliated/vrs] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:32 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-47-187.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:14 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-47.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-47.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:37 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-38.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:12 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-38.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:12 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:17 -!- d3nd3 [~dende@cpc10-croy17-2-0-cust245.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:17 -!- d3nd3 [~dende@cpc10-croy17-2-0-cust245.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:25 -!- marainein [~marainein@220-253-24-72.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:32 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- strages [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:16 -!- strages_work [~qwebirc@dev.throwthemind.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-71-59-241-82.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:49 -!- bkero [~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number] 07:50 -!- bkero [~bkero2@li280-127.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:50 -!- bkero [~bkero2@li280-127.members.linode.com] has quit [Changing host] 07:50 -!- bkero [~bkero2@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:02 < kanzure> boop 08:05 < ThomasEgi> kazong 08:06 < kanzure> vrs: hi 08:10 < strangewarp> blog posts about "robot ethics" are tiresome 08:10 < strangewarp> you can get some comedy, or accidental insight, if you mentally replace every instance of the word "robot" with "human", though 08:11 < strangewarp> like so: 08:11 < strangewarp> If a human malfunctions and harms someone, who is responsible — the human's owner, its manufacturer, or the human itself? Under what circumstances can humans be put in positions of authority, with human beings required to obey them? Is it ethically wrong for humans to prey upon our emotional sensitivities — should they be required to remind us, explicitly or implicitly, that they are only machines? 08:11 < strangewarp> How safe do humans need to be before they’re deployed in society at large? Should cyborgs — human beings with human parts — have a special legal status if their parts malfunction and hurt someone? If a police human uses its sensors to perform a surveillance operation, does that constitute a search? (And can the human decide if there is probable cause?) 08:13 < kanzure> "Should cyborgs — human beings with human parts" hehe 08:21 < chris_99> anyone done any experiments with plants and r,g,b leds 08:23 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:28 < vrs> strangewarp: is that from thatdrone ethics post? 08:29 < strangewarp> it was something on Ethical Technology, I think a short exerpt from a book called Robot Ethics 08:30 < delinquentme> EUREKA! 08:30 < delinquentme> jus realized 08:31 < delinquentme> i could probably run two heroku instances ... one cRoR and one JRuby 08:31 < delinquentme> and NOT need ec2 08:31 < delinquentme> dis sounds possibu 08:36 -!- nsh_ [~nsh@cpc21-broo7-2-0-cust83.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-12.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-12.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:38 < chris_99> ec2 is really expensive for me 08:38 < chris_99> i use linode instead mainly 08:39 < kanzure> i (ab)use jrayhawk 08:40 < chris_99> jrayhawk? 08:40 < kanzure> jrayhawk: hi! 08:41 < chris_99> ah heh 08:46 -!- zacharycohn [~zacharyco@c-98-247-247-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 < audy> human beings with human parts 08:48 < audy> delinquentme: watchya makin? 08:49 < delinquentme> audy, this chem parser : 08:49 < delinquentme> :D 08:49 < delinquentme> sooo close 08:49 < delinquentme> When making API calls ... specifically in sinatra .. I've seen the instances where args are simply placed in the URL ... what happens when they're packaged up with something like curl? I'm guessing those args go into the header? 08:50 < audy> delinquentme: get or post? 08:50 * delinquentme isnt flooding multiple channels or anything 08:50 < delinquentme> posts 08:50 < audy> delinquentme: they're in the header. available to the controller as params 08:50 < audy> delinquentme: in get, they're in the URL like this /uri/to/thing?keys=values&more_keys=more_values 08:50 < audy> or you can make it part of the URI but then you can't use forms 08:53 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:53 < delinquentme> ok so the header is actually packed into the uri 08:59 < kanzure> what? 08:59 < kanzure> it's against the http spec but you could theoretically include a POST-like payload with GET 09:00 < delinquentme> so I'd like to setup a jRuby heroku instance to *ONLY* parse java libs 09:00 < audy> yeah that works. 09:00 < delinquentme> when i post a formula 09:01 < delinquentme> i want that shit to come right back 09:01 < delinquentme> (the parsed version) 09:01 < delinquentme> i want to do that w/o storing it to a DB on the parsing server 09:03 < kanzure> are you asking a question 09:06 < delinquentme> yeah can a POST return something 09:06 < kanzure> yes.. 09:06 < delinquentme> ok cool i think thats all I need 09:20 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-47-187.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- yottabit [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:18 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:27 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:31 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:41 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:54 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 < kanzure> 'antibiotics' is such a horrible name :( 11:36 < kanzure> project gutenberg seems to have problems keeping track of compilable assets http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3638917 11:43 -!- Lucas_ [81317815@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.49.120.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 < delinquentme> http://blooming-night-9861.herokuapp.com/parse 11:48 < delinquentme> kanzure, i feel like im missing something here 11:49 < kanzure> delinquentme: does it run locally? 11:49 < kanzure> without heroku 11:49 < delinquentme> well a version of it does 11:50 < delinquentme> I havn't tried to setup it up w a server though 11:50 < delinquentme> trinidad is what i think ill run it w 11:50 < kanzure> ok. how did you fix the import error on your local instance ? 11:55 -!- Lucas_ [81317815@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.49.120.21] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:13 < delinquentme> was just talking to recruiters 12:13 < delinquentme> ok umm so there wasn't an error 12:13 < kanzure> how are you loading the classfile when you run it locally? 12:17 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-47-187.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:28 < delinquentme> GOT IT! 12:28 < delinquentme> well the local server at least jruby -S trinidad --config /etc/default/trinidad/config.yml 12:32 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 < kanzure> hi Reid_Berryman 12:34 < kanzure> how did the pitch go 12:43 < delinquentme> love me some simple soln 12:43 < delinquentme> we've got pitchers?? 12:43 < delinquentme> Reid_Berryman, hablamos! 12:43 < delinquentme> let the rythm take you over... 12:43 * delinquentme ceases 12:55 -!- augur [~augur@129.2.129.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02 < uniqanomaly_> http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1083/electroo.jpg :> 13:03 < uniqanomaly_> how bad are those? 13:03 < uniqanomaly_> tDCS electrodes x) 13:07 < uniqanomaly_> these* 13:11 < kanzure> $4k tiny arm http://robai.com 13:18 < ThomasEgi> 4k for a bunch of servos with 3mm accuracy? 13:18 -!- d3nd3 [~dende@cpc10-croy17-2-0-cust245.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 -!- d3nd3 [~dende@cpc10-croy17-2-0-cust245.croy.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:22 < kanzure> ThomasEgi: yeah i'm not sure what they are thinking 13:24 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:29 < delinquentme> FOUND ERROR 13:29 < delinquentme> so I've got this file which looks like shell scripts with classpath vars in it ... 13:29 < delinquentme> http://pastie.org/3475141 13:30 < delinquentme> is that shell scripts? 13:30 < kanzure> yes 13:30 < kanzure> the first line tells you this :x 13:30 < delinquentme> hA 13:31 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 < delinquentme> CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/path/to/other/jars:/path/to/other/classes 13:31 < delinquentme> this resets it though ... i need to append 13:32 < kanzure> CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH does not reset it.. 13:33 < delinquentme> OHHHH 13:47 < delinquentme> what are "shell scripts" 13:47 < delinquentme> like googling doesnt get quite the "language-centric" results I'm expecting 13:57 < kanzure> um. 13:57 < kanzure> alright 13:58 < kanzure> well, shell scripts are just your normal bash scripts.. 13:58 < kanzure> your default system shell is probably bash 13:58 < kanzure> so when you are cd'ing around on your computer, you are using the bash language 13:59 < kanzure> a shell script is just like any other script 14:21 -!- archels [~foo@unaffiliated/archels] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:30 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:39 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:41 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 < delinquentme> kanzure, shell scripting would be the same language in linux and unix .. not windows though right? 15:13 -!- yottabit [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:13 < kanzure> delinquentme: well, you can install bash on windows if you want 15:13 < kanzure> lots of people do this with e.g. cygwin 15:13 < delinquentme> ahh ok 15:16 < kanzure> pro tip: stop using windows 15:25 < delinquentme> lololol 15:25 < delinquentme> im not 15:25 < delinquentme> im just trying to figure out how to make this shit work:D 15:26 < delinquentme> im on ubuerntu 15:53 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:06 -!- uniqanomaly_ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-82-47.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:22 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 < delinquentme> <( '.' )> 16:22 < delinquentme> check it! 16:23 < delinquentme> http://blooming-night-9861.herokuapp.com/parse 16:32 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:34 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:51 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-32-83.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- Reid_Berryman [~Admin@75-134-104-127.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:21 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 17:23 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:23 -!- uniqanomaly__ [~ua@dynamic-78-8-83-114.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 17:29 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:29 < delinquentme> <3 17:31 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:10 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:11 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:23 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:28 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:29 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 < delinquentme> OK application is deployed 18:31 < delinquentme> and is hanging out 18:31 < delinquentme> kanzure, you around? 18:35 < kanzure> no 18:35 < kanzure> what's up 18:38 -!- Etherael [~Eric@r49-2-8-56.cpe.vividwireless.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:38 < kanzure> welcome Etherael 18:39 < Etherael> Hi there. 18:43 < eudoxia> PLU 18:43 < kanzure> hi eudoxia 18:43 < eudoxia> oh nevermind that 18:43 < eudoxia> wrong window lol 18:43 < kanzure> we'll keep your password safe 18:43 < eudoxia> haha 18:43 < eudoxia> I was trying to type "plu" on Chromium so it would autocomplete to "plus.google.com", but my mouse moved and switched focus to this window 18:44 < eudoxia> could have been worse 18:44 < kanzure> chromium's autocomplete isn't very cool. i wish it was more like firefox's autocomplete. 18:44 < eudoxia> I'm satisfied with it, haven't used Firefox in years 18:44 < eudoxia> also hi Etherael 18:45 < Etherael> hi eudoxia 18:50 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-24-94-5-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@203-173-238-133.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 < delinquentme> am I nuts thinking that processing can be throttled? 19:17 < kanzure> heroku definitely sets some limits 19:18 < kanzure> they want you to pay for more power 19:18 < delinquentme> oh for sure 19:18 < delinquentme> but like im SOOOO close 19:18 < kanzure> since they sit on top of ec2 it's cheaper to just pay ec2 instead 19:18 < delinquentme> the parser runs :D 19:18 < delinquentme> might have to do that 19:18 < kanzure> you should use delayed_job 19:18 < delinquentme> O_o 19:18 < delinquentme> java command? 19:19 < kanzure> no. look it up.. 19:19 < delinquentme> kk 19:19 < delinquentme> github? 19:20 < kanzure> no it's not github 19:20 < kanzure> it's a gem 19:22 < delinquentme> lol 19:22 < delinquentme> i mean yeah its on github 19:22 < delinquentme> reading 19:23 < delinquentme> kanzure, but this seems to be something which reorders tasks 19:23 < delinquentme> I've got a single task which is breaking things 19:30 -!- n_bentha [~lolicon@75.111.160.104] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:34 < kanzure> delinquentme: it doesn't reorder them 19:34 < kanzure> delinquentme: it just puts it in another process for you 19:35 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:59 -!- ParahSailin__ [~parahsail@adsl-69-151-144-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-32-83.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-24-94-5-223.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:42 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-24-94-5-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:44 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 20:53 -!- n_bentha [~lolicon@75.111.160.104] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:03 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-71-59-241-82.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:24 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:43 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 22:03 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:19 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-24-3-85-154.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:21 -!- zacharycohn [~zacharyco@c-98-247-247-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: zacharycohn] 22:49 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-71-59-241-82.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:51 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-71-59-241-82.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:01 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 23:04 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:10 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parahsail@adsl-69-151-144-252.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- zacharycohn [~zacharyco@c-98-247-247-157.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:40 < utopiah> Saturday at Stanford https://www.facebook.com/events/176336032479145 --- Log closed Tue Feb 28 00:00:29 2012