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05:15 < delinquentme> ahhhhh! ICE COFFEH morning all :D
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05:35 < kanzure> http://owni.eu/2012/05/03/china-hackerspaces-hacking-diy-shenzhen/
05:44 < ParahSailin> cool
05:57 < delinquentme> state funded nice
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06:56  * bkero waves from cph
07:02 < AlonzoTG1> 2045.com
07:06 < delinquentme> has anyone else thought about a buzword bingo bullshti generator for getting new ideas?
07:07 < kanzure> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer
07:07 < kanzure> "We utilize a powerful Deformable Mirror Device (DMD) projector to shine a 1024 x 768 pixel image onto a layer of photo-initiated polymer resin.  The result is a quick solid cure of the entire layer in one operation.  The layer thickness is typically 100 microns but your model can be sliced even thinner if you need even higher resolution."
07:07 < delinquentme> I mean like throw a bunch of buzz word bullshit in a pool and randomly cut through it
07:07 < kanzure> delinquentme: no, i think that is a bad idea
07:07 < kanzure> you shouldn't have that much trouble coming up with new ideas.
07:07 < delinquentme> kanzure, theres a startup already doing that
07:07 < delinquentme> kanzure, new ideas IMHO are about novelty in inputs
07:07 < delinquentme> change up the inputs get different yields no?
07:07 < kanzure> ok but i don't see how bingo would make it better
07:07 < kanzure> sounds useless to me
07:08 < kanzure> just write a program to combinatorially generate the arrangements. fuck bingo
07:09 < delinquentme> kanzure, yes you're well suited for science
07:09 < delinquentme> you took what i said, obfuscated it
07:10 < delinquentme> restated it
07:10 < delinquentme> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iorodeo-colorimeter/educational-colorimeter-kit
07:10 < delinquentme> THIS
07:10 < kanzure> you said "buzwrod bingo generator for generating new ideas"
07:10 < delinquentme> could be used for ELISA right?
07:10 < kanzure> delinquentme: i think openspectrometer.com's kickstarter was more robust than that colorimeter
07:11 < delinquentme> well they're using these little rectangular cube things
07:11 < delinquentme> wtf are those lol
07:16 < delinquentme> im sorry i was just watching nathan washing his ass on youtube
07:19 < delinquentme> that b9 res is fucking impressive!
07:22 < delinquentme> id love some chemical impregnated anti hand gunk stuff for my keyboard an mouse
07:22 < delinquentme> HATE sticking to things
07:22 < delinquentme> #cyborgProblems
07:26 < kanzure> what the hell is "#cyborgProblems"
07:26 < kanzure> stop putting hashes in front of things
07:35 < delinquentme> ZOMGGGGG
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08:35 < delinquentme> kanzure, have you ever hit a max on pubmed searched?
08:35 < delinquentme> searches*
08:35 <@kanzure> not yet
08:36 < delinquentme> =]
08:36 < delinquentme> good answer ha
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08:38 < delinquentme> hey is it just me being nuts...
08:38 < delinquentme> but couldn't an algo be designed to route electrical components on a PCB?
08:39 < delinquentme> like all you need is the form factor of each component
08:40 <@kanzure> many layout algorithms already exist
08:40 <@kanzure> some take netlists, like in vhdl/verilog
08:40 <@kanzure> but other systems like geda/kicad implement it for larger components
08:42 < delinquentme> sweet!
08:42 < delinquentme> go humans!
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09:12 < Mokbortolan_1> delinquentme: yeah, otherwise it'd be real tough to manage all those traces, not to mention trace length
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09:15 <@kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQ_q3wI1ak "transmission laserwelding of a microfluidic chip"
09:16 <@kanzure> that looks like 0.5 mm channels?
09:19 < delinquentme> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3953342
09:19 < delinquentme> What the fuck
09:19 < delinquentme> Why cant I upvote this?
09:19 <@kanzure> why would you upvote anything in the first place
09:19 <@kanzure> ieet is worth ignoring
09:20 < delinquentme> no seriously
09:20 < delinquentme> i've seen 2 decent articles on HN about life extension
09:20 < delinquentme> and BOTH I could not fucking upvote
09:20 <@kanzure> ok. try logging in first.
09:20 <@kanzure> i still don't see why you should upvote things?
09:20 < delinquentme> I am logged in!
09:20 <@kanzure> you could just bookmark them
09:20 < delinquentme> kanzure seriously
09:21 < ybit> this looks nice: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer
09:21 <@kanzure> ybit: lemoncurry?
09:21 < ybit> eh?http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/b9creations/b9creator-a-high-resolution-3d-printer
09:21 < ybit> ignore second pasted link
09:22 <@kanzure> ybit: http://code.google.com/p/lemoncurry/
09:22 < ybit> is this what he is using?
09:22 <@kanzure> don't think so.
09:23 < delinquentme> is there some kind of time decay on the upvote ?
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09:29 < delinquentme> kanzure, http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pellissier20120509
09:29 < delinquentme> i need to test something out
09:29 < delinquentme> would you submit that to HN for me?
09:30 < delinquentme> its already been posted so I'm just seeing if a duplicate submission automatically upvotes
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09:33 <@kanzure> delinquentme: yes dupe submissions will cause an upvote
09:33 <@kanzure> unless the url is different
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10:08 < delinquentme> http://medgadget.com/2012/05/microfluidic-device-filters-blood.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Medgadget+%28Medgadget%29&utm_content=FaceBook
10:24 < delinquentme> I've got this pubmed page: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Creation%20of%20a%20Bacterial%20Cell%20Controlled%20by%20a%20Chemically%20Synthesized%20Genome%22   and I click the display setting .. select XML and click apply ... I end up looking at the XML ...
10:25 < delinquentme> im looking at chrome and the network tab and looking at the code thats being called .. SO the URL thats being hit to generate and return that XML .. should be in there
10:25 < delinquentme> right?
10:27 <@kanzure> not necessarily, it might be a form that calls some url, or some javascript, etc.
10:32 < delinquentme> alright i gotta hop around a bit ... and then ill hack through that :D
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11:59 < delinquentme> okaaaaaa
11:59 < delinquentme> feel better .. little moar awake =]
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12:46 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: hey
12:46 < yashgaroth> yo
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12:59 < delinquentme> kanzure,  talk to me a little bit about how these request can be ruted
13:00 < delinquentme> routed* if you don't mind .. so im looking at the request .. theres 4 going on .. 2 of which get no response .. and then 2 that actually have stuff in the headers
13:00 <@kanzure> show me
13:03 < delinquentme> http://imgur.com/a/SeXPf#0
13:04 <@kanzure> well preferably with copy/paste
13:04 <@kanzure> what the heck am i looking at
13:04 < delinquentme> this is what happens when i click a radio button and apply changes
13:04 <@kanzure> is this a post or a get
13:04 < delinquentme> magic happens then im rerouted to a XML page
13:04 < delinquentme> well there is a post and a get
13:05 <@kanzure> ok. so what is your question?
13:05 < delinquentme> no actually just a post
13:05 < delinquentme> so on that action called 'pubmed"
13:05 < delinquentme> the response is the XML im after
13:05 < delinquentme> OHhhhh
13:06 < delinquentme> wait so if i just make a post to that particular url with those headers
13:06 < delinquentme> it should give me what I want
13:06 <@kanzure> import requests; response = r.get("http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Creation%20of%20a%20Bacterial%20Cell%20Controlled%20by%20a%20Chemically%20Synthesized%20Genome%22", allow_redirects=True)
13:06 <@kanzure> from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup; html = BeautifulSoup(response.content)
13:07 <@kanzure> or you should probably use lxml if you are playing around with..xml..
13:10 < delinquentme> lxml is python :D
13:10 < delinquentme> this is all rubeh
13:11 <@kanzure> ruby/python.. doesn't matter
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13:31 <@kanzure> nsh: what's up ?
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14:31 <@kanzure> i wonder if i can get the fbi to rename the workshop to 'weapons of self destruction'
14:39 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, the fbi always makes me smile
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14:39 < ThomasEgi> not long ago they raided a mailserver which, mainly, served encrypted mails.
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14:39 <@kanzure> ThomasEgi: in the "i like getting butt raped" way or the "i am genuinely happy" smiling way?
14:39 < ThomasEgi> so the actual owner installed a tiny camera in the server rack
14:39 < ThomasEgi> and the fbi guys came back, adding the machine back into it's slot and they wired it up again
14:40 < ThomasEgi> end of the day, fbi agents got caught on tape my armateurs^
14:42 < ThomasEgi> so.. yeah. a genuinely happy smile^
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16:14 < gnusha_> laser_etcher.git: 48eb253 outline of todo list
16:15 <@kanzure> hooray
16:15 <@kanzure> gnusha_: i should make you sms my pocket
16:19 < gnusha_> laser_etcher.git: a314425 need to ship the parts
16:19 <@kanzure> fenn: ^poke
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16:28 <@kanzure> Juul: hey
16:28 < Juul> kanzure, heya
16:33 < jrayhawk_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways if you aren't already aware
16:34 <@kanzure> jrayhawk_: i just use twilio.com or tropo.cmo
16:34 <@kanzure> *tropo.com
16:34 <@kanzure> the email gateways tend to be unreliable
16:35 < fenn> Juul: hey, you are coming to my house this summer? (langton labs)
16:36 < Juul> fenn, hehe, sure! is there an event or are you just asking in general?
16:37 <@kanzure> you two should definitely meet
16:37 <@kanzure> also, neither of you have met klafka yet
16:37 < fenn> it seems you emailed tristan ursell last week regarding staying as a guest
16:38 < fenn> are you currently in the bay area?
16:39 < Juul> fenn, that must've been someone else?
16:39 < Juul> could it have been Malthe?
16:39 < Juul> from biologigaragen?
16:39 < fenn> er, you are marc dusselier, correct?
16:39 <@kanzure> hehehe
16:39 < fenn> sorry i misspelled the name
16:39 < Juul> nope Marc Juul
16:40 <@kanzure> you got the marc part right.. but the other part seems harder to get wrong!
16:40 < fenn> ah. nevermind then :)
16:41 <@kanzure> have you two met yet?
16:41 < Juul> nope
16:41 < Juul> we should
16:41 < Juul> i live in west oakland
16:41 <@kanzure> who else lives in the bay? bkero, brownies, fenn, juul, klafka?
16:42 < Juul> fenn, whatcha doing this weekend?
16:42 < fenn> no plans
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16:43 < fenn> oh, maybe looking at a house in berkeley
16:43 < Juul> cool
16:44 < fenn> what is "biofab database"?
16:44 < fenn> biofab.org seems to be down
16:45 <@kanzure> biofab was drew endy's synthetic biology org
16:45 <@kanzure> juul used to work there
16:46 < Juul> wtf
16:46 < Juul> fenn, thanks
16:51 < fenn> ah finally someone has implemented a connector standard for a variety of electronic sensors http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=grovefamily
16:56 < fenn> kinda weird that they exclusively use star topology, as i2c works fine as a bus
16:58 < Juul> fenn, http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-i2c-hub-p-851.html?cPath=178_191
16:58 < fenn> system requirements are "dumb-proof, damn cheap, Not need 5 different types of cable"
16:59 < fenn> oh i see, you can solder the bricks together
16:59 < fenn> no cables needed
16:59 < fenn> neat
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17:52 < brownies> jrayhawk: eh just use Twilio
17:57 < jrayhawk> no u
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18:45 < nmz787> kanzure: you there?
18:46 <@kanzure> nmz787: yes
18:46 <@kanzure> hey
18:52 < nmz787> so we are figuring if we don't hear about SF jobs by end of month we need to plan on NYC
18:52 <@kanzure> what about jbei?
18:53 < nmz787> they won't give me a pay increase unless i have a b.s., which I still need 3 credits to get
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19:06 <@kanzure> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/210251816/usb-based-variable-power-supply-for-small-projects-0
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19:16 < fenn> jesus christ you don't need $14k to make a circuit board
19:16 <@kanzure> then you should go yell at mitch altman
19:16 <@kanzure> it's your civic duity as a noisebridge member.
19:17 <@kanzure> *duty
19:18 < brownies> which noisebridge member has the civic duty of cleaning the damn place?
19:18 < fenn> noisebridge has no members
19:18 <@kanzure> mr. body, no body
19:18 < brownies> figured
19:19 < fenn> it's pretty "clean" from a dirt standpoint
19:19 < fenn> the real issue is apathy towards putting things back where you got them
19:20 < fenn> if i knew how to fix that, i wouldn't be spending all day cleaning my own "hacked space"
19:20 < fenn> maybe if it cost money to get things out of storage, and you only got the money back when you returned them
19:21 < fenn> that way at least mess would be generating income
19:27 <@kanzure> it could just be reputation, and you have to positively impact reputation of the space to stay
19:28 <@kanzure> i guess that wont work because people can then play social games rather than keeping things organized
19:28 < fenn> the other problem is nobody seems to do anything
19:29 <@kanzure> projects?
19:29 < fenn> i'd rather have mess being generated than not, if it meant projects were being accomplished
19:29 < fenn> but it seems most of the mess is just churn
19:29 <@kanzure> is there a "planet planet" aggregator for noisebridge?
19:29 < fenn> eh?
19:29 <@kanzure> "planet" is a popular blog aggregator
19:29 <@kanzure> installable aggregator that shows posts about what's going on in a community, usually
19:30 <@kanzure> i know there's a mailing list, but that's not the same thing as seeing projects
19:30 < fenn> yeah i don't read the mailing list
19:30 < fenn> wiki/recent changes seems to be the closest
19:32 < fenn> ah spoke too soon: https://www.noisebridge.net/planet/
19:36 <@kanzure> want to take a stab at nanoengineer?
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19:47 < nmz787> kanzure: so I say we build 2 gantries in June, and I take one back to NYC... I can owe you the cost if our plans don't pan out i.e. company happens
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19:50 <@kanzure> nmz787: i don't even know what the actual cost is yet
19:53 < nmz787> google docs spreadsheet says gantry is at $557.70
19:53 < nmz787> not including laser related stuff
19:57 < gnusha_> laser_etcher.git: ad7e459 first draft of bearing block
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20:59 <@kanzure> hahah http://twitter.com/cookbook
20:59 <@kanzure> "Shroom Burgers: steam8portobelo9m; patdry. Mix c grtdcheddr&edam,form4disc; seal btwn shrooms. Dip+2btnegg,c flr&panko; rpt. Deepfry2m/side."
21:00 <@kanzure> parsable!
21:00 <@kanzure> "Mosaic Tea Eggs: China. Happy Easter! Tap,crack ovr6boildegg. Simmr h+c soya/staranise&cinnstick/2T dryblktea/t sug&pep/h2o to cvr. Steep>h."
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21:33 < Volis> what is this place?
21:33 < chevbird> earth
21:33 <@kanzure> a fortress of solitude
21:35 < Volis> i am so lonely #YOLO
21:35 <@kanzure> what the hell is "#YOLO"
21:35 < chevbird> hey all--  anyone from the boston area?  i just sent out an email to the bosslab diy guys and was hoping to learn a little more
21:36 < chevbird> you only live once....kids today...
21:36 < yashgaroth> it's some dumb facebook shit
21:36 < Volis> You Obviously Lack Onions
21:36 <@kanzure> lemme think. who oh who is in boston..
21:36 < Volis> YOLO
21:37 < yashgaroth> david, I would think
21:37 < Volis> David Blaine isn't in Boston.
21:37 <@kanzure> oh, yes, definitely
21:37 <@kanzure> but he's not online at the moment
21:37 < Volis> David Copperfield is dead.
21:37 < yashgaroth> don't know if he's boss enough for bosslab
21:37 <@kanzure> david dalrymple
21:38 < chevbird> David Hasselhoff obviously
21:38 <@kanzure> he probably hasn't gone yet.. he has CBA, what would he need bosslab for :/
21:38 < Volis> Why he isn't on the beach?
21:40 < bkero> kanzure: got/responded to your email
21:40 <@kanzure> bkero: i saw it, thanks
21:40 < bkero> kanzure: I live in Portland, but that's close enough :)
21:43 < chevbird> kanzure: is this who you're talking about? http://esp.mit.edu/teach/teachers/davidad/bio.html
21:47 <@kanzure> bkero: doh. i don't know why i put you in the 'sf' pile.
21:47 <@kanzure> bkero: take jrayhawk with you when you come over
21:47 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: you will go with bkero
21:47 <@kanzure> chevbird: yes
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21:53 < bkero> kanzure: is jrayhawk in pdx?
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21:53 < bkero> I got some of my college buddies internships down in the bay area, so I have to come down this summer to visit them.
21:53 <@kanzure> bkero: he is in portland, yes
21:54 < jrayhawk> I was planning on heading down to visit the bay area and yosemite in late June.
21:54 < bkero> right on
21:56 < jrayhawk> I would offer to help carpool, but even if you were a legless dwarf I don't think you'd survive the confines of my back seat for twelve hours.
21:57 < jrayhawk> maaaaaybe a legless dwarf in a vegetative state would do okay
21:58 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: you should time it so that you can hang out with us. june 12-16ish
21:58 < jrayhawk> What's the occasion?
21:58 < chevbird> picturing a legless dwarf
21:59 < delinquentme_> NIGHTEH all!
21:59 < delinquentme_> <3
21:59 < jrayhawk> that's a good occasion
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21:59 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: fbi/diybio workshop, then some hackathon thing
21:59 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: the fbi is flying in a lot of ##hplusroadmappers, so i figure it's an okay reason to get together
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22:05 < jrayhawk> Interesting. It's within the realm of possibility, but not really motivating enough to happen.
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22:05 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: what about for the sake of proving that you aren't steve
22:07 < jrayhawk> i suspect he'll be back up in portland by that time, so we'll have failed to prove anything
22:09 <@kanzure> why is he migrating?
22:10 < jrayhawk> You'd best ask him. I think he ran out of things to do in the bay area.
22:10 <@kanzure> that sounds very hard to do
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22:41 < chevbird> night all
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