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eudoxia is going to be pissed 04:41 < kanzure> ybit: what's work? 04:45 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 04:49 < ybit> kanzure: http://isotope11.com 04:49 < ybit> everyone here uses linux \o/ 04:49 < ybit> and the boss man is driving to southeast linuxfest 04:49 < ybit> driving +me 04:52 < ybit> they also run this annually: http://www.incubatebang.com/ 04:54 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:54 * ybit waves hi to kvltist 04:54 < kanzure> ybit: do you own isotope11? 04:54 < ybit> heh, nope 04:55 < kanzure> the number of projects they have listed is pretty low 04:55 < kanzure> are they new? 04:56 * ybit was afk 04:56 < kanzure> waaay too many people for so few projects: http://isotope11.com/about 04:56 < ybit> they are relatively new i suppose, ~7 years 04:56 < ybit> they also hosts http://www.incubatebang.com/ 04:56 < ybit> er... 04:57 < ybit> http://www.meetup.com/bhamboss/ 04:58 < kanzure> seven years and all they have are two insurance projects, and two mobile projects? i don't understand 04:59 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-59.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:59 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-59.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:59 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:06 < ybit> kanzure: they have worked on a lot more than that, and they are working with huge organizations right now 05:06 < ybit> stuff i can't say because of nda :\ 05:07 < kanzure> ybit: see pm 05:28 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 05:28 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:32 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 < kanzure> http://reprap.org/wiki/MetalicaRap 06:05 < kanzure> "One of the goals is a solar cell production plant design that MetalicaRap will be able to print, that will utilize MetalicaRap's vacuum chamber and beam for the solar cell manufacturing processes." 06:05 < kanzure> "It should be possible to use a process that creates thin film solar cells at a vacuum of 10-4 Torr by directly co-evaporating copper, gallium, indium and selenium onto a heated substrate[3]. Other precursor choices should also be possible[4]. The CIGS manufacturing process will consist of electron beam physical vapor deposition[5] (EBPVD summary by material [6]) and DC sputtering in the vacuum chamber(DC sputter animation [7])." 06:10 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: epitron, OldCoder, thyla, AlonzoTG 06:10 -!- epitron [~epitron@bito.ponzo.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:10 -!- epitron [~epitron@bito.ponzo.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:10 -!- epitron [~epitron@unaffiliated/epitron] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: thyla, OldCoder, AlonzoTG 06:49 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- _F7_ [~forrestfl@safekick-americas-2.consolidated.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:10 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:13 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit 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-!- jennicde [jenze@ec2-107-21-75-189.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- jennicde is now known as jenzebubble 09:32 -!- jenzebubble is now known as jennicide 09:32 < jennicide> WHAT IT SO 09:37 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 < kanzure> hi klafka 09:41 < kanzure> jennicide: ? 09:42 < jennicide> what? 09:42 < kanzure> klafka: have you used eureqa before? i don't know why i held out for so long 09:42 < jennicide> it wasnt me 09:42 < jennicide> oh 09:42 < jennicide> i said that to the wrong channel 09:42 < jennicide> oops 09:42 < jennicide> it was me :( 09:47 -!- augur [~augur@206.196.186.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:55 < chris_99> what are you using it for kanzure? 09:55 < kanzure> chris_99: i was using it to figure out the formulas for some maps in pokemon crystal, heh 09:56 < chris_99> really?! 09:57 < kanzure> chris_99: yeah, scroll down.. https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/commit/5e37b9a97fc2b2054d35ce36575dd0fd204bb2bf.diff 09:57 < kanzure> "dw ($C703 + 253 + ((ROUTE_39_HEIGHT + 3) * (ROUTE_39_WIDTH + 6))) ; strip destination" 09:57 < kanzure> stuff like that. 09:57 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58 < chris_99> what's that the source from? 09:58 < kanzure> chris_99: me. 09:58 < chris_99> yeah but what is it 09:58 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 < kanzure> chris_99: asm. 09:58 < kanzure> chris_99: https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal#readme 09:58 < kanzure> and also: https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/tree/master/extras#readme 09:59 < chris_99> no i didn't mean what language i meant what is it for 09:59 < chris_99> oh you disassembled it 09:59 < kanzure> right. just me having some fun. 09:59 < kanzure> so it's for entertainment. 09:59 < chris_99> gotcha 09:59 < kanzure> i am allowed to have at least one hobby that doesn't involve neurophysics or something :P 09:59 < chris_99> heh 10:00 < chris_99> do you do comp. neuro stuff? 10:00 < kanzure> sometimes. 10:00 < kanzure> chris_99: i was playing around with this recently http://github.com/kanzure/netmorph 10:00 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/netmorph/ 10:01 < chris_99> interesting not heard of that before 10:01 < kanzure> it's one of randal koene's projects. 10:02 < kanzure> it was sorta "hidden" so i figured it should have a git repo. 10:02 < chris_99> ah 10:02 < chris_99> i just got a graham condenser :) 10:05 < kanzure> hrmm i wonder when this showed up http://diybio.org/safety/biosafety-advisory/ 10:09 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28 -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 < Mokbortolan_> probably after that flap about the weasel-bird flu 10:37 < Mokbortolan_> ferrets, weasels, same difference 10:37 -!- lichen|2 [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:44 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-59.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-59.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:44 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- lichen|2 is now known as lichen 10:49 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 < nmz787> kanzurino: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2916174/ 10:49 < nmz787> kanzure: ^ 10:50 < nmz787> kinda old http://www.micromanufacturing.com/content/scaled-micro 10:50 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:54 -!- augur [~augur@206.196.186.24] has quit 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These expanded access program rules were amended in 2009 by the FDA to ensure “broad and equitable access to investigational drugs for treatment.”" 14:18 -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18 -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-5-109.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:21 < Mokbortolan_> ohhh, and that's why the federal government supplies people with marijuana. 14:36 < skorket> kanzure, is there any freely available and cheap acrylate or epoxy polymers used in SLA? 14:38 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-5-109.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 -!- NonFish[ [lurking@adsl-99-111-153-229.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 -!- chillyvanilly__ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 < kanzure> skorket: i'm not the best source for materials knowledge, heh. i don't know. 14:40 -!- chillyvanilly__ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 14:42 -!- compcube [~compcube@c-68-43-48-46.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:42 -!- compcube [~compcube@c-68-43-48-46.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:42 -!- compcube [~compcube@pdpc/supporter/student/compcube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:42 -!- chillyvanilly_ [~chillyvan@207.178.197.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:42 -!- NonFish_ [lurking@adsl-99-111-153-229.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:42 -!- NonFish[ is now known as NonFish_ 14:45 -!- SDr [~SDr@5400EA90.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:02 -!- OldCoder [~OldCoder@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- OldCoder [~OldCoder@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:13 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 < nmz787> has anyone attempted a DIY 2PP (2 photon polymerization) stereolithography setup? 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i would kind of like to hear todd huffman talk but it looks like he'll only get like 20 min 17:34 < roksprok> also anyone know what an 'expert led workshop' entails? 17:35 < roksprok> is it like a panel? or mini-hacking session? 17:35 < roksprok> or just themed discussion 17:35 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 < kanzure> roksprok: i'll be there.. it's joseph jackson's thing 17:38 < kanzure> plus, if it sucks, all the hplusroadmappers can fart and storm out 17:39 < kanzure> we could also potentially do something crazy like release 500 GB of scraped journals 17:39 < nmz787> i'll be there 17:40 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:42 -!- Steel2 [43f624a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.246.36.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53 -!- _sol_ [Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:54 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-11.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:54 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-11.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 17:54 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 < roksprok> cool i'll sign up for it 17:56 < yashgaroth> do they really want me to print the ticket? it's like the 90s all over again 17:57 < roksprok> kanzure and nmz787 : are you speaking? 17:57 < kanzure> haven't decided yet 17:58 < kanzure> yashgaroth: there's no way they want the tickets printed. if you are anxious about it, just email it to me and we can use super phones to show the ticket. 17:58 < yashgaroth> I think my phone has enough resolution to show the QR code, but it's the principle of the thing 17:58 < yashgaroth> I don't even own a printer 17:58 < kanzure> aww yeah. scanning a phone showing an image of a picture of a qr code. yeees. 17:59 < roksprok> kanzure: can you briefly say what a workshop is? i get kind of conflicting answers on googling 17:59 < yashgaroth> and they'll probably be using a phone to scan it 17:59 < kanzure> roksprok: it's joseph jackson organizing an event for us and our friends 18:00 < roksprok> no like a talk is a guy getting up and showing slides and speaking on a theme 18:00 < roksprok> a panel discussion is a moderater asking several people questions 18:00 < kanzure> roksprok: btw, lots of us will be in that area for that whole preceeding week. myself, fenn, juul, possibly bkero, yashgaroth, F7, nmz787, etc. 18:00 < roksprok> a workshop is.... 18:00 < yashgaroth> so is the 'hackathon' part of this event, or separate 18:00 < kanzure> it may or may not be an actual hackathon, i dunno, joseph isn't a coder 18:01 < yashgaroth> hence the single quotes, but whatever the biocurious thing will be called 18:01 < kanzure> that's this thing 18:01 < yashgaroth> ah okay cool 18:01 < bkero> kanzure: what week? 18:01 < roksprok> when is the hackathon/ is joseph organizing that too? 18:01 < kanzure> there's also the biocurious thing as part of the fbi thing 18:01 < kanzure> roksprok: that's the startupscience thing 18:01 < kanzure> the biocurious/fbi thing is just "make gfp" probably 18:01 < kanzure> joseph hasn't put anything together yet because he's lame like that 18:01 < kanzure> so it could be anything 18:02 < kanzure> possibly "color some coloring books!" 18:02 < bkero> kanzure: I'm planning on being in the bay for a week in July, not sure which week yet 18:02 < kanzure> with your favorite agent 18:02 < kanzure> bkero: june. 18:02 < kanzure> bkero: see the email. 18:02 < yashgaroth> also I doubt I'll be there that whole week since you guys will be locked up with the FBI during the day 18:02 < kanzure> yashgaroth: i thought you got in to the fbi event? 18:02 < roksprok> kanzure: ah....would the biocurious thing be something i can email joseph to get in on? 18:02 < kanzure> roksprok: yeah, for sure 18:02 < yashgaroth> not sure, but no confirmation sooooo 18:03 < kanzure> roksprok: let me cook up an email 18:03 < kanzure> yashgaroth: send another email, damn 18:03 < yashgaroth> I thought he said they were full, but then it got all vague...yeah I'll send one now 18:03 < bkero> kanzure: let me see about june 18:03 < kanzure> yashgaroth: hold on, i'll send it 18:03 < yashgaroth> <3 18:03 < roksprok> cool...i had actually emailed him a few times, so no need to do a nice to meet you thing 18:04 < kanzure> yashgaroth: sent 18:04 < kanzure> roksprok: yeah i know, but i'm in control freak mode 18:05 < roksprok> kanzure: that is probably a good idea with me 18:05 < yashgaroth> heh me too 18:07 < roksprok> yashgaroth: do you life in sf? 18:07 < yashgaroth> hell no, san diego 18:07 < kanzure> yashgaroth: email sent 18:07 < kanzure> roksprok: email sent 18:08 < roksprok> kanzure: email recieved, thanks a lot 18:08 < kanzure> bkero: "I'll look into traveling down for this. The timing might actually be fortuitous." 18:08 < kanzure> bkero: i'm pretty sure you wrote this :P 18:08 < yashgaroth> damn jojack replies fast 18:09 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:09 < kanzure> jojack, hahah 18:09 < roksprok> kanzure: random interview question: should you say you have an offer when you are interviewing 18:09 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-5-109.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:10 < kanzure> roksprok: never say you have no offers 18:10 < kanzure> you always have the option to deflect that question ("wait, i don't think you should be asking that, i'm not comfortable with that") 18:11 < kanzure> whether or not you should say "yes, i do have other offers" depends on a lot of contextual factors 18:11 < kanzure> and also on your delivery. 18:11 < roksprok> so don't bring it up, but if asked you can say you do 18:11 < kanzure> yeah 18:12 < kanzure> but, if you suck at saying you have a few offers etc., you can really bomb the entire interview with that :P 18:12 < roksprok> ok cool...i will hope its not brought up 18:12 < kanzure> "do you have any other offers?" "there are a few calculating pay numbers, but i'm not sure about their fit" 18:12 < kanzure> or "but i'm not sure they are the best fit for me" 18:13 < kanzure> i.e. if you just say "yeah, i have tons of other offers bro, LOL" you sound like a douchebag :) but that might be your style. 18:13 < roksprok> well i am not a brogrammer 18:14 < roksprok> so i will try to avoid sounding like a douchebag 18:14 < fenn> there's no such thing as a brogrammer 18:15 < fenn> hey maybe you should go work for these real estate guys 18:15 < kanzure> pah 18:15 < kanzure> my estimates were "too high" 18:15 < fenn> they keep trying to hire me 18:15 < kanzure> i estimated <$20k, i dunno what they were thinking 18:15 < fenn> i'm like, can't you see i'm busy doing dishes?!! 18:16 < kanzure> "i have data to prove it" 18:16 < fenn> data to prove what? 18:17 < kanzure> dishes 18:17 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 < kanzure> i was making a joke about your dishlog 18:19 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:20 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 18:20 < kanzure> roksprok: jojack replied but he didn't include you. i've remailed it to you. 18:22 < roksprok> cool...i'll sign up for the openscience thing...is that a maybe for the biocurious thing? if i'm going to be out there all summer would it be better to just go other days when its less crowded? 18:22 < kanzure> you should definitely hang out with biocurious 18:22 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [] 18:22 < kanzure> http://groups.google.com/group/biocurious 18:22 < kanzure> you should also hang out with fenn and bug him about things 18:22 < kanzure> or write code for brownies 18:22 < roksprok> i like bugging people 18:23 < roksprok> i have some money now, so it will be a net gain as long as rent isn't too high 18:24 < roksprok> but i am taking brownies advice and started looking for a place 18:26 < fenn> i suggest buying a box truck and living in it 18:27 < fenn> nobody listens to me :( 18:27 < roksprok> do they make box trucks with showers 18:29 < roksprok> or rent them for a few months? otherwise i think i'm going to have to join the nobody's and not listen to you 18:30 < fenn> yes you can rent a box truck 18:31 < fenn> the real problem is toilets. despite being invented over 90 years ago, one still cannot buy a packaging toilet in this day and age 18:32 < kanzure> showers are overrated, you can do that at the gym 18:33 < kanzure> and more importantly, if you are at a gym, you *should* do that at the gym 18:35 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEAS400.wlan.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 18:35 < bkero> kanzure: correct 18:41 < roksprok> kanzure: re joseph email, is his 60 people comment a yes or no? should i offer to help in some way? 18:43 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:43 < roksprok> not really sure what it means/what i should say 18:45 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 < kanzure> roksprok: there are two things he's talking about 18:50 < kanzure> "the lab portion" is some hands-on activities with fbi agents at biocurious, probably a molecular biology project 18:50 < kanzure> that's the 60 people thing he's mentioning. 18:51 < kanzure> then the other thing is the startupscience eventbrite thinger 18:53 < yashgaroth> if I don't get in the hands-on, someone else needs to spill something on an agent and exclaim "oh no, the virus!" 18:54 < kanzure> yeah, we need more hilarious prank ideas 18:55 < yashgaroth> receive phone call, answer in angry arabic 18:56 < kanzure> how does one make sure it sounds angry? 18:56 < kanzure> i will totally take arabic lessons to make that work 18:56 < yashgaroth> the angry part pretty much takes care of itself with arabic 18:56 < kanzure> what should i say in arabic? 18:57 < kanzure> "THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS NUCLEAR LAUNCH CODES" 18:57 < yashgaroth> man arabic is hella easy to make up stuff in, though yeah some of them probably actually speak it 18:57 < kanzure> لا لم يتم نشر الفيروس حتى الآن 18:58 < kanzure> نشر is probably the wrong word 18:58 < kanzure> i suck at this 18:59 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B157B81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:00 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:00 < roksprok> kanzure: yes and i get that the startupscience thing is open and i just sign up 19:00 < kanzure> yashgaroth: it could also be a nonsense message, like "BUY ALL THE PANCAKES" 19:01 < roksprok> but what about "the lab portion" - is it open? already full? needs volunteers? 19:01 < kanzure> it's not "open" per-se. you will definitely have to confirm your participation with jojack. 19:01 < yashgaroth> code words are essential - oh I can totally volunteer for the lab portion too, done whatever they're doing a hundred times 19:02 < kanzure> they are coloring inside the lines i bet 19:02 < roksprok> ok cool...is it actually doing stuff with fbi agents 19:02 < roksprok> like teaching them bio techniques 19:02 < kanzure> yes 19:03 < yashgaroth> "yes sir, pipette this tube into that tube and wait 15 minutes" repeat x20 19:03 < kanzure> like "you and your agent-partner will be transforming ecoli today and we'll email you a picture of it glowing" 19:03 < kanzure> like "today you will learn how to handle anthrax" 19:06 -!- compcube [~compcube@pdpc/supporter/student/compcube] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 19:09 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:18 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:22 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:28 -!- _F7_ [~forrestfl@50.15.211.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:28 < kanzure> _F7_: yo. will you be going to jojack's event thing after the fbi-diybio workshop thing? 19:31 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:33 -!- _F7_ [~forrestfl@50.15.211.25] has quit [Client Quit] 19:58 < jennicide> kanzure: do you game? 19:59 < kanzure> i play pokemon? 20:02 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:06 -!- klafka1 [~klafka@c-24-6-19-91.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:07 < klafka1> hey can anyone get me the paper BAD-Dependent Regulation of Fuel Metabolism and KATP Channel Activity Confers Resistance to Epileptic Seizures in Cell ? 20:07 < klafka1> :) 20:22 -!- tmno [~aalma@MASEEH-TWO-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:22 < tmno> anyone here? 20:22 < kanzure> yep 20:22 < kanzure> your hostname intrigues me 20:22 < kanzure> MASEEH-TWO-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU 20:22 < tmno> kanzure! 20:22 < tmno> yes indeed 20:23 < tmno> graduated senior... watching documentaries all week... 20:23 < tmno> it's been a blast 20:23 < kanzure> cool. 20:23 < kanzure> are you with media lab? 20:23 < tmno> I came upon a talk on diy transhumanism that you did in 2010 I think 20:23 < tmno> nope physics :( 20:23 < kanzure> sounds like a thing i'd do 20:24 < tmno> been reading ol' kurzweil lately... and poking around 20:24 < kanzure> i don't recommend kurzweil 20:24 < tmno> have there been any developments on your end as to the diy transhumanism idea? 20:24 < kanzure> here's an interesting refutation of ray: http://heybryan.org/kurzweil/ 20:24 < kanzure> tmno: sure.. lots of projects/funding 20:25 < tmno> anywhere I could look? I'm kind of curious. btw the link isn't on my server apparently 20:26 < tmno> and I'm not a developer G-d so I wouldn't be able to solve that 20:27 < kanzure> oh woops 20:27 < tmno> and by kind of curious I'm really phukn curious 20:27 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/fernhout/ 20:27 < tmno> :) 20:27 < tmno> huh I'll read this. looks interesting 20:27 < kanzure> also you can find other things here: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/ http://github.com/kanzure http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ 20:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/ 20:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/ 20:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/ 20:27 < tmno> awesome! thanks kanzure 20:28 < tmno> ctrl+D all the tabs 20:28 < yashgaroth> what sorts of physics are you doing/interested in? 20:28 < tmno> it all went by so fast I really don't know 20:28 < tmno> hah 20:28 < yashgaroth> heh fair enough 20:28 < tmno> enjoyed quantum... not so much stat mech... 20:29 < tmno> probably going to be working more engineering stuff or like simulation stuff in real life 20:30 < tmno> worked at some natl labs n such doing some coding projects and moving out of the country for an internship for a while 20:30 -!- dixiebassline [~adam@75.105.14.63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:30 < kanzure> hi dixiebassline 20:30 < dixiebassline> h+ ftw 20:30 < kanzure> tmno: where are you moving to ? 20:30 < tmno> exactly 20:30 < dixiebassline> didnt realis there was a community 20:30 < tmno> Brazil 20:30 < kanzure> tmno: cool. i know a guy doing diy longevity-relatd stem cell projects in brazil. let me know when you get there so i can hook you up. 20:31 < tmno> oh yeah. niiice 20:31 < tmno> sounds good to me. 20:31 < kanzure> but he's like 80 bajillion years old; he probably wont want to travel 20:31 < tmno> cool. 20:31 < tmno> hopefully I'll be in job this summer so I can travel around brazil 20:31 < tmno> são paulo or rio? 20:31 < kanzure> i'm not sure. he likes to pretend to be anonymous. 20:31 < tmno> 80 bajilion 20:32 < kanzure> but it's not hard to figure out the longevity biologist in a community, haha 20:32 < tmno> sounds like a ripe old age to me 20:32 < tmno> yeah they're like astrophysicists 20:32 < kanzure> "who here has a ridiculously through knowledge of oxidation in metabolism? yep there's your guy" 20:32 < kanzure> *thorough 20:32 < tmno> damn. well sweet. 20:33 < tmno> still haven't figured out what way to go for grad school 20:33 < kanzure> why would you do that 20:33 < tmno> which is kind of why i came to the irc (what I always do when my britches are bunched) 20:34 < tmno> because all the research infrastructure is already made so it'd just be a matter of joining a team rather than striking out alone 20:34 < tmno> plus college went by so damn quick... hah 20:34 < kanzure> you might be interested in these: 20:34 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us:9001/random 20:34 < yashgaroth> have you considered biophysics? consider biophysics 20:34 < kanzure> give it a few seconds to load. they are various videos. there's also a text non-thumbnail index. 20:35 < tmno> ok 20:36 < tmno> have considered 20:36 < tmno> one of my friends is in biophysics at UChicago 20:36 < tmno> he's loving it 20:37 < yashgaroth> well there you go 20:37 < yashgaroth> (I'm biased though, ignore me and follow your heart etc) 20:37 < tmno> hah one person's experience alone should not inform my decision 20:38 < tmno> lol I will do just that except without all the bloody syrup 20:38 < tmno> dixiebassline what brings ye hither? 20:38 < dixiebassline> noots 20:38 < tmno> of course 20:39 < dixiebassline> lol 20:39 < tmno> i tried some alpha brain... 20:40 < tmno> it was pretty interesting... dreams feel so much more tangible and it's like... real interactions with real folk 20:40 < tmno> but what is reality? yes what is it Morpheus? 20:40 < kanzure> what? 20:41 < tmno> this nootropic that I've tried 20:41 < kanzure> you called it morpheus? 20:41 < kanzure> that's confusing 20:41 < tmno> AlphaBrain by onnit labs 20:41 < tmno> no just a matrix ref that's all 20:42 < tmno> dreams... reality... the big white room? 20:42 < tmno> :) 20:42 < kanzure> sounds like a load of crap to me 20:42 < tmno> yeah it's not really that effective except for general wakefulness and fascinating dreams 20:43 < tmno> pretty much just like a bunch of herbies packed in a pill 20:43 < tmno> nothin much to it 20:43 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 20:43 < tmno> thought about modafanil... remarks? 20:43 < Mokbortolan_> awesome stuff 20:44 < Mokbortolan_> freedom from tiredness 20:44 < kanzure> modafinil 20:44 < tmno> cheap/"legal"/ 20:44 < tmno> ... 20:44 < tmno> right modafinil 20:44 < yashgaroth> it's pretty good, get some before the DEA cracks down on it more 20:44 < tmno> huh 20:44 < tmno> ok 20:45 < tmno> cheap? 20:45 < yashgaroth> 2 a pill, less in bulk 20:45 < tmno> ok... 20:46 < yashgaroth> if you have something to do while one it, it's cost-effective 20:46 < tmno> huh understood 20:46 < yashgaroth> on* 20:46 < tmno> who's CIA-132? 20:46 < kanzure> we have an open relationship with the FBI and CIA 20:47 < tmno> good to know I'm in good hands 20:47 < yashgaroth> haha 20:47 < kanzure> CIA-132 is http://cia.vc/ 20:47 < kanzure> it tweets commits to our git repos 20:47 < tmno> hah 20:47 < kanzure> so stuff on http://github.com/kanzure and http://diyhpl.us/cgit/ shows up in the channel 20:47 -!- Steel2 [43f624a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.246.36.165] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:48 < tmno> nice 20:48 < klafka1> modafinil is not cheap 20:48 < klafka1> :( 20:48 < tmno> yeah :( 20:50 < tmno> well I'm gonna go read some of the stuff kanzure provided 20:50 < tmno> y'all be good now 20:51 < tmno> kanzure: pleasure to meet you 20:51 < tmno> and the rest as well 20:52 -!- tmno [~aalma@MASEEH-TWO-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52 < kanzure> aw don't leave me 20:52 < Mokbortolan_> I think it just went generic 21:00 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:02 < kanzure> roksprok: thx for the follow-up email 21:09 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@cpe-67-242-177-23.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:49 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50 -!- nathaniel_ [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51 -!- nathaniel_ [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:06 < jrayhawk> "The requested URL /kurzweil/ was not found on this server." 22:17 < kanzure> yes, well, i corrected myself just after 22:17 < kanzure> :'( 22:18 < jrayhawk> oh, sorry, i am bad at reading 22:19 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:42 -!- Guest57243 [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:45 -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:46 -!- Charlie is now known as Guest87026 22:47 < Steel2> so, who's around that I don't know? :) 22:56 < jrayhawk> CIA-132. You can get to know CIA-132. 22:56 < Steel2> Bah, I'm already moving to McLean :P 23:19 -!- nathaniel [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:22 -!- nathaniel_ [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:26 -!- nathaniel [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Wed May 30 00:00:25 2012