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00:29 < kanzure> brownies: alas, typing on two keyboards at once is not yet a skill i have
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01:09 < foucist> i have mastered dvorak-right and dvorak-left
01:11 < foucist> i also separated my left and right brains...  half of me designs, the other half codes..  it works great!
01:14 < sylph_mako> You did this by corpus collosum excision, I presume?
01:15 < sylph_mako> nobody needs that thing.
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06:52 < audy> http://www.technologyreview.com/files/87345/SynthBio-Ax616%25202.jpg#.png
06:52 < audy> boo!
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07:48 < kanzure> "The Google+ Hangouts are better than IRC for some things.  Being able to have multiple simultaneous video feeds from multiple people would let the community share techniques, educate people, or just video chat"
07:49 < kanzure> :o ok guys we're not allowed to educate each other
07:49 < kanzure> audy: what's the point of the #.png in that url?
07:49 < kanzure> like, are they trying to fool us?
07:51 < superkuh> You can cut it off at, http://www.technologyreview.com/files/87345/SynthBio-Ax616
07:52 < superkuh> Oh. Even further. After the file # ID.
07:52 < superkuh> 'needs the / though.
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08:09 < kanzure> there was a 'genetic superpowers' thread on diybio the other day (just a list of interesting mutations): https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/diybio/sTw7AXt-NaQ
08:09 < kanzure> Norovirus resistance and FUT2 W154X
08:09 < kanzure> Extra strong bones and LRP5
08:09 < kanzure> Lean muscle and MSTN double null
08:09 < kanzure> Greatly reduced heart disease and PCSK9
08:10 < kanzure> CCR5-delta32 to increase resistance to HIV
08:10 < kanzure> hDEC2-P385R transcriptional repressor associated with short sleep phenotype
08:10 < kanzure> i can't remember the hang-over-resistance gene :(
08:11 < kanzure> s/gene/allele
08:15 < chido> is being able to detect the smell of cyanide a superpower?
08:15 < kanzure> sure why not
08:16 < kanzure> there's also that mutation in TASR38 that allows people to taste PTC... perhaps not a power at all :)
08:17 < chido> I'm not sure the gene that makes you smell cyanide is identified
08:17 < chido> I just read that today morning :) nature has a cool special on taste
08:18 < kanzure> ah. genspace/diybio-nyc did a few projects related to TASR38 as "public outreach".
08:21 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/gene_doping_for_sports_enhancement.png
08:21 < kanzure> i suppose i need a better list than this.
08:23 < chido> did you catch that Springstein affair in Germany?
08:24 < chido> but it was years ago I think
08:24 < kanzure> no?
08:24 < chido> coach accused of gene therapy doping
08:24 < kanzure> oh neat
08:25 < kanzure> it wasn't blood doping?
08:25 < chido> it was Repoxygen
08:25 < kanzure> ah epo
08:26 < kanzure> hehehe "World Anti-Doping Code 2006 Prohibited List"
08:26 < kanzure> let's see what's on the 12 list..
08:26 < kanzure> *2012
08:27 < kanzure> hrm.. 2009? http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WADP-The-Code/WADA_Anti-Doping_CODE_2009_EN.pdf
08:29 < kanzure> aha here's 2012 http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WADP-Prohibited-list/2012/WADA_Prohibited_List_2012_EN.pdf
08:30 < kanzure> damn, modafinil is prohibited
08:31 < kanzure> "The following, with the potential to enhance sports performance, are prohibited: 1) the transfer of nucleic acids or nucleic acid sequences; 2) the use of normal or genetically modified cells." say whaat.
08:32 < chido> yeah I was just about to wonder about the vague-ness of that one
08:33 < chido> so if yash succeeds he will never be able to do any sports, ever?
08:33 < foucist> you guys are aware of doping with your own cells rihgt?
08:33 < kanzure> well, this org doesn't seem to be a government body.. i dunno who listens to them
08:33 < foucist> for instance some athletes have extracted blood cells and then injected that back in later
08:34 < foucist> for extra oxgen
08:34 < chido> mind you, the mind sports olympics use the code too so he can't play go or chess there either :D
08:34 < foucist> nevermind, i need to read the backlog more often
08:35 < foucist> kanzure: which part are you saying what to
08:35 < kanzure> chido: so if you take anabolic steroids, build up tons of muscle mass.. you can't play chess? :(
08:35 < kanzure> foucist: what?
08:35 < foucist> kanzure: "say whaat." which part
08:35 < foucist> the nucleic acids? the normal cells?
08:36 < chido> it was a bit of an affair here because the srongest go players here in CZ almost couldn't participate in the mind sports olympics because of weed
08:36 < kanzure> foucist: the whole thing :( i was hoping they would outline some useful things for me.
08:37 < kanzure> but instead, they just say no to everything.
08:37 < chido> kanzure: I assume the "regular" events like league games and local championship don't give a damn about doping, at least in go, not sure about chess
08:37 < chido> kanzure: welcome to europe and its take on genetic modification :D
08:38 < kanzure> huh? i thought you guys hate GMO
08:38 < chido> "no to everything" is standard policy
08:38 < audy> kanzure so my irc client displays the image inline
08:39 < kanzure> yikes why would you want that
08:39 < chido> easier than sorting through the details
08:39 < kanzure> like what if i link to pain3.jpg?
08:39 < kanzure> or whatever that file is. supergoatse.
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09:59 < kanzure> http://angel.co/cambrian-genomics
10:00 < kanzure> peeps: anselm levskaya, reese jones, george church, john mulligan, sagar indurkhya, austen heinz
10:00 < kanzure> oh and lukman winoto
10:02 < kanzure> SCOTUS ruling re: obamacare http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-393c3a2.pdf
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10:38 < delinquentme> What is the string search algo thats really german sounding and has "distance" in its name??
10:38 < delinquentme> its a string comparison operation
10:38 < kanzure> levenshtein?
10:39 < kanzure> but that's russia
10:39 < kanzure> *russian
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10:40 < archels> oh wow, this guy is claiming that "if I were an upload, I would never again have to sleep"
10:41 < delinquentme> YES
10:41 < delinquentme> LEVENSHTEIN
10:41 < delinquentme> kanzure, damn you're good
10:41 < kanzure> aren't most processes spending most of their time in zombie state in the linux kernel?
10:41 < kanzure> i guess that's not sleeping exactly
10:41 < kanzure> (e.g. waiting for input)
10:41 < kanzure> erm, wait.. zombie != waiting for input. don't listen to me.
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10:43 < delinquentme> http://www.warpdrivebio.com/engine.php
10:43 < delinquentme> oh lulz
10:43 < delinquentme> php
10:43 < delinquentme> well lets hope the hardware is on something a little better
10:43 < delinquentme> anyways " CHEMOMEMES "
10:43 < delinquentme> and geo church
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10:52 < kanzure> yashgaroth: today we're ashamed that we don't have a longer list of 'easy alleles for genetic improvements'
10:52 < kanzure> do you have a list somewhere? i know that's my job and all, but uh apparently i don't
10:52 < yashgaroth> define 'easy'
10:52 < kanzure> 'known alleles that provide interesting changes'
10:52 < kanzure> http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/I3003626
10:53 < yashgaroth> get all those weird ashkenazi recessive brain disorders, give people one copy of the normal and one copy of the bad, with 50% expression on both
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10:53 < yashgaroth> actually you could apply that to a lot of persistent recessive disorders, sickle cell for example
10:55 < yashgaroth> SNPs are good but they're almost always just associated with the gene...but yeah delta-CCR5 would be good
10:55 < yashgaroth> I think it makes you slightly more susceptible to some exotic viruses, but it's probably worth it for resistance to HIV and the plague
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10:56 < yashgaroth> you can get a couple of inducible genes in with tetracycline-response elements, just gotta pick the most useful
10:57 < yashgaroth> that WADA document is annoying - they get all specific on steroids, but myostatin is just "all drugs which inhibit myostatin"
10:58 < yashgaroth> oh and extra p53 expression couldn't hurt
10:59 < kanzure> this is an interesting one: http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs314263
10:59 < kanzure> "faster rate of growth at age 10 and about a tenth of an inch less in adult height"
11:00 < kanzure> http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Height
11:00 < yashgaroth> is there a link which shows you what gene they're near? it's doubtless some hormone regulator
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11:02 < yashgaroth> oooh that pepck-c overexpression would be a good one
11:03 < yashgaroth> oh and alpha-galactosidase in the digestive tract
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11:03 < yashgaroth> I probably should make a list huh
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11:05  * chido would appreciate a list
11:07 < kanzure> yashgaroth: can you dump that into a text file for us?
11:07 < yashgaroth> blaaaaahokay
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11:20 < kanzure> rs1265507 looks possibly interesting
11:34 < yashgaroth> k http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82637557/germline%20genetic%20modification.txt
11:34 < yashgaroth> I'm forgetting at least a half-dozen but it's my birthday so deal with it
11:35 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 9a80e1c germline genetic modifications via yashgaroth
11:35 < yashgaroth> argh where the hell is a euro 2012 stream
11:38 < yashgaroth> nm
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12:04 < kanzure> haha the fbi trading cards have an iphone app.. http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/bioagents-education/id520691350?mt=8
12:05 < chido> I've been trying to find a source of the cards online
12:06 < kanzure> so, with george church being an "advisor" to anything, i wonder if you can just slap his name on things and expect people to believe it
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12:08  * yashgaroth throws money at the channel
12:08 <@kanzure> maybe we can find some guy named george church to make that legitimate
12:09 < nmz787> ?
12:09 < nmz787> along with NRA
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12:12 <@kanzure> i've learned of at least three new things today advised by george
12:13 <@kanzure> that new cambridge x-risk group,
12:13 <@kanzure> cambrian genomics (via angel.co),
12:13 <@kanzure> and i don't even remember the third one.
12:13 <@kanzure> i should make a list and sell it back to him or something
12:14 < nmz787> lol
12:14 < nmz787> thta cambrian genomics is the gene laser company right?
12:14 < nmz787> DNA laser sounds ever so bogus
12:15 <@kanzure> anselm told us that he was doing sequencing of dna to improve the reliability
12:15 < nmz787> its a horrible hack to use several $150k machines to get cheap DNA
12:15 <@kanzure> i don't recall him mentioning lasers
12:15 < nmz787> yeah
12:15 < nmz787> http://angel.co/cambrian-genomics
12:15 < nmz787> DNA laser printing
12:16 < nmz787> ""
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12:18 < chido> so is the NRA thing a thing? any progress?
12:18 < yashgaroth> about as much as george church is
12:19 <@kanzure> haha
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12:28 < nmz787> chido, did you get to eat any of these while you were here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheetos
12:31 < chido> nmz787: no, I didn't
12:32 < chido> I didn't eat a burrito either
12:32 < nmz787> wait, weren't you at the taco place after noisebridge the very first night before the workshop started?
12:32 < chido> even though yash made it clear to me that leaving California without ever having eaten Mexican is a sacrilege
12:32 < chido> no
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12:33 < chido> I wasn't at noisebridge until the day the BART fire
12:33 < nmz787> ooo
12:33 < chido> we met there for the first time
12:34 < nmz787> yeah burritos are sacrilicious
12:36 < chido> "Cheetos have been found in shapes which resembled the appearance of popular or historical figures"
12:36 < nmz787> like that jesus toast that sold on ebay years ago
12:37 < yashgaroth> cheetos are arguably more important than mexican food tbh
12:37 < chido> apparently a Michael Jackson Cheeto sold too
12:37 < chido> I seemed to have missed out on an important cultural aspect here
12:38 < nmz787> problem today is you can forge jesus toast with a laser cutter
12:38 < yashgaroth> cheetos and mountain dew are like the nerd eucharist
12:38 < nmz787> i bet catholics hate lasers now
12:38 < chido> I read an article on how jetlag is linked to permament memory damage so I am not sure if I am ever coming back for the Cheetos
12:38 < nmz787> hah
12:38 < nmz787> just take a bunch of sleeping pills to avoid the lag
12:39 < nmz787> then its not jet lag, its hangover lag
12:39 < nmz787> benzodiazapenes are really handy for international trips
12:39 < nmz787> as well as my bugs bunny full-size bedroom pillow
12:39 < yashgaroth> xanax is the only way to fly
12:39 < nmz787> any benzos really
12:40 < nmz787> i've really only had restoril
12:41 < nmz787> so i think i'm gonna apply to a security consulting firm
12:41 < nmz787> fuck biotech bitch work
12:41 < yashgaroth> like biosecurity or what
12:41 < nmz787> get a high paying job coding, work on opensource projects with that practice
12:41 < nmz787> nah application security, chipsets, protocols, etc...
12:42 < yashgaroth> less competition for me
12:42 < nmz787> i know enough about a lot of topics in the field, and i think i could hang... tho my coding skills are a bit weak in the webapp stuff, i think i can make up for it with hardware concepts
12:42 < nmz787> exactly
12:43 < nmz787> live birth MRI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W02HgvEVR4
12:44 < nmz787> aww thats not the full vid
12:45 < nmz787> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwNqYwvaAI&feature=player_embedded
12:45 < nmz787> thats actual video, but still not full length
12:48 < nmz787> SOURCE: Bamberg C, Rademacher G, Güttler F, et al. Human birth observed in real-time open magnetic resonance imaging. Am J Obstet Gynecol 2012;206:505.e1-6.
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12:49 < nmz787> http://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(12)00023-3/abstract
12:50 < nmz787> same video in the supplementary content
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13:01 < delinquentme> Today’s consumer electronics are more beautiful than ever. The shininess level is soaring way above nine thousand.
13:01 < delinquentme> http://www.wellsriley.com/blog/2012/stop-shipping-hardware-products-that-are-only-beautifully-designed/
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13:04 < delinquentme> yashgaroth> cheetos and mountain dew are like the nerd eucharist
13:04 < delinquentme> ROFL
13:04  * chido thinks the raspberry pi is beautiful
13:04 < delinquentme> MOTD?
13:04 < chido> tastes vary
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13:56 <@kanzure> "according to a major United Nations report on the Economics of Ecosystems and Biodiversity, the total economic value of pollination by insects worldwide was in the ballpark of $200 billion in 2005"
13:57 < Mokbortolan_> so, basically what they're saying, is that if all the insects stopped pollinating, it would only cost the world 200 billion.
13:57 < Mokbortolan_> seems a little low
13:58 < Mokbortolan_> or are they trying to calculate the hourly wages by respective mass
13:58 < nmz787> or maybe thats how much edibles are produced by pollinators?
13:59 < nmz787> grains, fruits, veggies???
13:59 < nmz787> hmm
13:59 < nmz787> yeah thats a weird statement
13:59 < Mokbortolan_> maybe they figure that they can just send out $200 billion worth of migrant laborers with tiny paintbrushes
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14:35 <@fenn> not sure what the use of "poor man's screw library" is, since bolts are cheaper than the plastic to print plastic bolts
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14:44 < chido> fenn: how's the devious smuggler fish doing?
14:45 <@fenn> seems like the author of the screw thread library knows what he's doing: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8776
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16:15 <@kanzure> hrm
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18:06 <@kanzure> rmcl: hi
18:06 < rmcl> kanzure: howdy. sorry for all the join/leaves
18:07 <@kanzure> how do you do?
18:07 < rmcl> good thanks. hbu?
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19:41 < nmz787> azonenberg: how's the photolith?
19:42 < azonenberg> nmz787: my new roommate is a mechanical engineer and is going to be helping me make a better spin coater
19:42 < azonenberg> ETA on that is a month or two depending on how long it takes us to source components
19:43 < azonenberg> next on the list of improved tooling is a contact mask aligner for 2" wafers complete with vacuum chuck and two adjustable-distance microscopes
19:43 < nmz787> can i buy plans from you someday
19:43 < nmz787> ?
19:44 < nmz787> will be needing a spin coater in about 9 months or so
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23:00 <@kanzure> 2009-07-16.log:19:07 < Smari> essentially what I'm getting at is a machine readable Merck index that can be traversed. I point a piece of software at my personal invent
23:00 <@kanzure> ory and say, "I want to build an airplane", and it searches through this database of processes and finds the shortest path from my inventory to the airplane and tells m
23:00 <@kanzure> e what that path is and what else I'm going to need.
23:01 <@kanzure> so why didn't he do that?
23:01 < yashgaroth> how the hell did you find that
23:05 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: just some old hplusroadmap logs
23:05 < yashgaroth> yeah but still
23:05 <@kanzure> we used to do things in here
23:06 < yashgaroth> except that guy, apparently
23:06 <@kanzure> smari ended up becoming the leader of the icelandic pirate party instead, or something
23:06 <@kanzure> i dunno, it's not my job to track you guys... oh wait
23:47 < yashgaroth> AAV-Directed Persistent Expression of a Gene Encoding Anti-Nicotine Antibody for Smoking Cessation
23:49 < yashgaroth> man this Hicks guy hates drugs but loves gene therapy, I'm not sure what to think: AAVrh.10-Mediated Expression of an Anti-Cocaine Antibody Mediates Persistent Passive Immunization That Suppresses Cocaine-Induced Behavior
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