--- Log opened Sun Jul 01 00:00:55 2012 00:06 -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:39 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:41 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:49 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:59 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B15736A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:16 < brownies> seems like they should've spent the $30K on a blender + a PhD to invent a robot that could work the blender... then they could sell the blenderbot... 02:19 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:41 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:58 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:59 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:23 < pasky> kanzure: we have trouble building pokecrystal 05:24 < pasky> i had to modify extras/romstr.py not to look in .. but in ., but make produces just a 32kb pokecrystal.gbc which is mostly empty 05:26 < pasky> oh interesting, make clean; make works fine 05:32 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:25 <@kanzure> pasky: that's very weird. can you show me the diff on romstr.py? 06:28 <@kanzure> "reprap tecan cnc conversion tecrap" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeFJLl5Ee2w 06:31 < pasky> chido is playing now, but I just did s#\.\./#\./# and things got working - make is not changing directory but the romstr.py wants to look for main.asm in parent directory, I'm not sure if you are chdir()ing anywhere along the way 06:34 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:37 <@kanzure> pasky: romstr.py expects to be in the folder called extras/ 06:38 <@kanzure> pokecrystal/main.asm pokecrystal/extras/romstr.py 06:38 <@kanzure> so it finds main.asm via ../ 06:38 <@kanzure> (you run make in pokecrystal/ not pokecrystal/extras) 06:39 <@kanzure> oh weird. you're right. 06:43 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 <@kanzure> pasky: i've pushed a few fixes for this problem ("." instead of ".." is not an optimal solution) 06:46 <@kanzure> pasky: https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal/compare/3359121ba732...58c696cfd3a0 06:49 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:56 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 <@kanzure> an okay patrick stewart bit from extras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M 07:50 < panax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7umupQoy2Uo 08:20 < ParahSailin_> what is this pokecrystal thing 08:23 <@kanzure> ParahSailin_: http://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal 08:24 < ParahSailin_> rom hacks for pokemon? 08:24 <@kanzure> source code to pokemon crystal 08:25 <@kanzure> but if you are interested in rom hacks i highly recommend http://www.rijon.com/prism/ 08:25 <@kanzure> here's a copy: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/pokered/pokemon-prism.gbc 08:40 <@kanzure> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/06/heritability-of-behavioral-traits/ 08:42 <@kanzure> http://mirai-noah.blogspot.fr/2007/06/how-to-watch-gundam.html 08:57 <@kanzure> fenn: iirc you had a thing for vinay gupta? so here's some recent videos http://p2pfoundation.net/Vinay_Gupta_on_P2P_Infrastructure_Theory 09:01 <@kanzure> "the top 10 enhancements i crave" (except, he doesn't seem to know how to make any of them happen) http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/nicholas20120701 09:09 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28 -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- nmz787__ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- nmz787_ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-82-58.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:35 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-82-58.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 09:35 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:46 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-196-204.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:15 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:30 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:30 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 <@kanzure> pirate party position on pharmaceutical patents http://christianengstrom.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/an-alternative-to-pharmaceutical-patents/ 10:44 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:04 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 -!- Utopiah [~utopiah@rps7452.ovh.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:33 -!- Utopiah [~utopiah@unaffiliated/utopiah] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-196-204.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:51 < jmil> kanzure: published!!!!! http://www.nature.com/doifinder/10.1038/nmat3357 and press release here: http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/penn-researchers-improve-living-tissues-3d-printed-vascular-networks-made-sugar 11:55 <@kanzure> awesome 11:55 * kanzure hasn't read it yet 11:57 < Jora> neat 12:01 < jmil> :D:D:D:D:D:D 12:14 -!- nmz787__ [~androirc@107.55.128.93] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 12:46 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 < brownies> jmil: whoa! congrats dude! 13:08 < jmil> :D thanks!!!!!! 13:11 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-196-204.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-153-108.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-153-108.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:45 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:05 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:12 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:24 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-1-67.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 < eudoxia> hey congratulations jmil 14:25 < jmil> eudoxia: thanks!!!! 14:25 < jmil> kanzure: another article: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/07/a-sweet-way-to-grow-blood-vessel.html 14:26 < klafka> wow jmil, that's awesome a nature article 14:27 < jmil> thanks! 14:27 < jmil> using reprap!!! 14:28 -!- Tukotih1 is now known as Tukotih 14:34 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- nathaniel_ [~nathaniel@reddit/operator/nathaniel] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:46 < strangewarp> kk well, Ethical Technology (the blog) has finally become too annoying 14:47 < strangewarp> They're talking about reincarnation - cool! Are they talking about resimulation? Maybe Big Universe brute-force resimulation? Maybe the Boltzmann brain problem? 14:47 < strangewarp> NOPE 14:47 < eudoxia> oh I can see where that's going 14:47 < strangewarp> They're talking about frigging mystical reincarnation, with articles about children who remember past lives and such bullcrap 14:48 < strangewarp> They've taken the low road, and chosen poorly 14:48 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:49 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:49 < strangewarp> eudoxia: Sorry, to clarify, I was hoping they'd talk about resimulation but they're only talking about traditional boring reincarnation mysticism 14:50 < eudoxia> It's okay I understood perfectly 14:50 < strangewarp> ah, kk 14:50 < eudoxia> I'd been seeing those articles on Prisco's pseudoreligion thingee so when you mentioned reincarnation I though they'd just reposted it 14:51 < eudoxia> these nutjobs can't write two words without ensuring they get posted across fifty 'h+' blogs 14:51 < strangewarp> Whatever they're doing, every Ethical Technology article shows up 3 to 6 seperate times in Google Reader, which makes it further annoying 14:55 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 14:56 < eudoxia> oh what do you know it's the same article from the Turing Church blog 14:56 < strangewarp> blurgh 14:56 < eudoxia> are they ACTIVELY trying to paint transhumanism as some kind of bullshit religion? 15:01 < strangewarp> Maybe this is part of whatever feedback loop is causing the Reddit H+ crowd to become paranoiac mystics, hm 15:02 < strangewarp> There must be some way to get regular people to think clearly, without turning them into miniature versions of Yudkowsky.. 15:05 < strangewarp> I watched a documentary on Slavoj Zizek recently, and while I'm bored to tears by his particular philosophical obsessions, the manner he thinks about things at all times is brilliant 15:08 < strangewarp> Constantly critical and subversive, of both himself and others; definitely a useful way to process ideas, and.. I wish there were a way I could point at a given intenet mystic and make them start deconstructing themself in such a manner 15:09 < strangewarp> internet* 15:12 < eudoxia> with "internet mystic" do you mean the SL4 Masters of the Universe or just in general? 15:13 < strangewarp> In general, yeah, but especially that weird quantum-UFO-meme-baggage that's been nibbling at the heels of H+ 15:14 < eudoxia> Just nibbling? 15:14 < eudoxia> Have you taken a look at Terasem? 15:14 < strangewarp> Sort of don't want to :X 15:15 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16 < eudoxia> good choice 15:20 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:20 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 < eudoxia> I guess religious nutjobs & Internet paranoid schizophrenics have been clinging to transhumanism since its inception, we'll just have to ignore them 15:26 < bkero> charlatans 15:27 < eudoxia> and snake oil salesmen 15:27 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-101-180.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:36 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:36 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:37 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-1-67.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:02 -!- augur [~augur@206.196.184.127] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:20 -!- rmcl [~rmcl@99-71-136-35.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:33 <@kanzure> strangewarp: i don't think eliezer is a good role model for anything. no thanks. 16:34 <@kanzure> strangewarp: the other option is to just ban all those jerks 16:38 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: you should reply to this seattle guy.. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/diybio/Gt0uFoIFIPg 16:41 < yashgaroth> looks like most of the good stuff is gone 16:41 < yashgaroth> also no fucking way am I driving up there for a waterbath 16:41 <@kanzure> huh? no i mean, you should tell him which person to talk with 16:41 <@kanzure> or assign a local buddy to steal his stuff 16:42 < yashgaroth> there really aren't any left up there 16:42 <@kanzure> lame 16:43 < yashgaroth> alec was the only other actual biologist, he's gone...one guy was collecting equipment but seems to have died, so no luck there 17:04 -!- augur_ [~augur@206.196.184.127] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:05 < jmil> ok i'll just leave it 17:05 -!- augur [~augur@206.196.184.127] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10 -!- rmcl [~rmcl@99-71-136-35.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] 17:33 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33 -!- augur_ [~augur@206.196.184.127] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:37 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55 -!- kendoka [81ae3765@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.174.55.101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:59 <@kanzure> hi kendoka 18:00 < kendoka> kanzure whats been happening 18:01 < kendoka> i need you to splice a potato and some yeast together for me 18:01 < kendoka> have you heard of amyris? 18:02 < kendoka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnesene 18:35 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:37 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:55 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:07 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:41 < panax> http://www.gizmocrazed.com/2012/07/micro-machines-to-start-making-medicine-inside-our-bodies/ 19:42 -!- fuztt [~fuztt@67.137.24.114] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:43 -!- kendoka [81ae3765@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.174.55.101] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:53 -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip-64-134-238-2.public.wayport.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:05 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:21 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:22 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-76-124-101-180.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 20:26 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:03 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:09 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:10 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 21:10 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:24 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:28 -!- fuztt [~fuztt@67.137.24.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41 -!- rmcl [~rmcl@ip-64-134-238-2.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: rmcl] 22:12 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-76-105-164-184.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-166-99.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Jul 02 00:00:56 2012