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06:28 < delinquentme> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffreywarren/6309574755/in/set-72157627998033468/
06:29 < delinquentme> so what functionality does a DVD sans the media part
06:29 < delinquentme> do for a spectrometer?
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06:59 < AlonzoTG> a diffraction grating?
06:59 < AlonzoTG> (poor man's prism).
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07:13 < delinquentme_> AlonzoTG, Ohhhhhh check!
07:13 < delinquentme_> much appreciated <3
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07:31 < ThomasEgi> they are also useful for art.  like this one http://www.geekologie.com/2012/06/shiny-dragon-sculpture-made-from-shatter.php
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10:23 < delinquentme_> jmil, is this orbital shaker yours?
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10:40 < kanzure> http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Energy_Group_Meetings#Recruiting_Modern_Steam_Power_Project_Manager
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10:40 < kanzure> unfortunately they are only willing to pay $2000/mo
10:42 < kanzure> yikes "We are open to remote work after a 2 week unpaid orientation stay at Factor e Farm to build rapport."
10:42 < ThomasEgi> 2k for a hobby. nice payment if you ask me
10:43 < ThomasEgi> building a steam-engine isn't exactly rocket science
10:44 < kanzure> "stipend up to $2,000/month + full time commitment (no outside jobs or telecommuting unless specifically negotiated)"
10:45 < kanzure> ugh "Daily Scrum Session from noon to 6 at the FeF workshop, with Daily Standup at noon."
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10:47 < ThomasEgi> really i can't imagine what should be so difficult about it.
10:47 < eudoxia> what's a daily scrum session?
10:47 < eudoxia> oh wait nvm
10:47 < ThomasEgi> bending copper pipes , put above a fire, let someone with a nc-mill cut out some parts for a tesla turbine for you. done.
10:47 < eudoxia> when i was a kid i tried making a steam engine out of cardboard
10:48 < ThomasEgi> might not be the most efficient steam engine ever. but can be build in a couple of days and scales pretty well
10:48 < ThomasEgi> cardboard is a bad choice. wood would work tho.
10:48 < kanzure> eudoxia: to answer your question, cad is sort of a stumbling block in skdb
10:49 < eudoxia> seems to be a central concern of the OSE people too
10:49 < kanzure> so i went to work on the cad problem, but ran into some walls that i haven't solved yet
10:49 < kanzure> sort of
10:49 < kanzure> except every time i talked with marcin he'd say he liked the concept, but places no priority on it
10:49 < eudoxia> lolcad?
10:49 < kanzure> lolcad doesn't work :p
10:50 < eudoxia> what about their CAD project?
10:50 < kanzure> they just use other software
10:50 < kanzure> and don't post cad files
10:51 < eudoxia> I thought they were going to hire some people to work on that
10:51 < kanzure> hmm that sounds like a thing they might plan to do
10:51 < kanzure> dunno if they actually did it
10:52 < kanzure> you can't really get good CAD-programming talent for $2000/mo otherwise i would have hired them already
10:53 < eudoxia> I remember hearing something about it, but can't seem to find it again
10:54 < eudoxia> "and $1/2M for deploying the fully-featured, open source CAD/CAM solution"
10:54 < eudoxia> from the Civ Starter Kit
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11:26 < ParahSailin_> ose is interesting, what are they up to now
11:27 < ParahSailin_> ah steam engine
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13:19 < delinquentme_> Id be super curious to take a look at this: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428403/single-molecule-sequencing-gets-a-crucial-fix/
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13:56 < kanzure> "(Science News, Vol. 182, No. 3, p.16, Aug. 11, 2012) --  The banana genome has been unpeeled. The genetic makeup of Musa acuminata, a fertile banana species that gave rise to the seedless Cavendish and other clonal varieties people eat today, sheds light on the plant’s evolutionary history and ripening process. This information may also help researchers boost the crop’s resistance to fungal and viral pathogens threatening its survival. M. acum
13:57 < kanzure> what is the thing in bananas that people are allergic to?
13:59 < delinquentme_> peels on the floor
13:59 < delinquentme_> *nods*
14:00 < delinquentme_> someone posted something to FB about some kind of anti necrotic element in brown bananna?
14:00 < delinquentme_> IDK
14:01 < kanzure> stop reading facebook
14:01 < kanzure> weren't you going cold turkey or something
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16:12 < jrayhawk> http://cavemanforum.com/research/cordain-on-bananas-part-ii/ cordain covers all the suspected problem chemicals here, but most of it's speculative
16:16 < jrayhawk> saponins and lectins, for instance, are classes of chemicals that he treats as being inherently suspicious when they actually have a fairly low likelihood of causing problems
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16:24 < jrayhawk> he's a scientist archetype; he loves opening up problemspaces for himself to explore and seems to resent being restricted to verifiable evidence
16:24 < jrayhawk> unfortunately people keep asking him practical questions and he keeps trying to answer them
16:26 < ParahSailin> cordain had some magical believes on saturated fats
16:26 < ParahSailin> beliefs
16:26 < jrayhawk> he finally changed his mind on those
16:32 < ParahSailin> i saw that he kinda recanted at one point
16:42 < jrayhawk> raw bananas do have the undesirable property of sometimes making me ragey above and beyond what I'd expect from that sort of glycemic hit, though, so i guess some subset of the fearmongering is justified
16:42 < kanzure> huh, you mean we don't know what people are allergic to about bananas?
16:46 < jrayhawk> autoimmunity is complex and multi-factorial
16:47 < kanzure> banana immunity seems like one of the basic things those nazi scientists should've figured out in their death camps
16:48 < kanzure> i guess that was a little early for good immunology research
16:48 < jrayhawk> and research subjects rarely have uncompromised immune systems, so we can't really study this crap in isolation
16:48 < kanzure> hmmm
16:49 < jrayhawk> thankfully we're dumping giant piles of money into intestinal permeability research nowadays, so that might change
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21:30 < delinquentme> kanzure, https://github.com/BaltoRouberol/TesseractTrainer
21:30 < delinquentme> thought of youuuuu <3 hahah
21:33 < kanzure> oh was i supposed to train tesseract when i used it last time?
21:33 < kanzure> i recall not training it at all..
21:33 < kanzure> maybe this is why it sucked.
21:39 < delinquentme> =p
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23:41 < kanzure> "scent-carrying skin cells that drop off living humans at a rate of about 40,000 cells per minute"
23:43 < kanzure> Steel2: why are you so against diyhpl.us/wiki :(
23:44 < kanzure> like why does this need a whole separate wiki http://wiki.transhumani.com/index.php?title=Bryan_Bishop
23:45 < kanzure> oh it's eudoxia
23:45 < kanzure> eudoxia: wtf mate?
23:48 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i think this is just further evidence that nobody tolerates anything other than mediawiki :(
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23:56 < kanzure> nmz787: yo.
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