--- Log opened Sat Aug 04 00:00:28 2012
00:00 < klafka> brownies cool, i live in east oakland
00:04 < brownies> oh word
00:04 < brownies> you go to school?
00:12 < klafka> nah
00:12 < klafka> i work in tech
00:13 < brownies> startup?
00:15 < klafka> yeah
00:15 < klafka> right now in menlo park but soon to one in soma
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00:36 < nmz787> skorket: yeah
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01:08 < brownies> that's a rough commute man
01:08 < brownies> klafka: which startup?
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01:09 < klafka> yeah i know that's part of my leaving :P
01:09 < klafka> right now i work at badgeville and i'm moving to playhaven
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10:18 < kanzure> hrrm
10:23 < kanzure> https://tindie.com/
10:23 < kanzure> esty for.. meh nevermind
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10:26 < klafka> hahaha
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11:55 < brownies> ah, modern technology. https://tindie.com/hugs/robot-that-plays-angry-birds/
11:58 < Hasp> lawl
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12:23 < klafka> truly what a world to live in
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17:35 < kanzure> poke
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17:41 < kanzure> sylph_mako: just be sure to take your blood thinners
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18:37 < delinquentme> whats the hardware that you guys were hacking a while back that is a really cool looking head .. almost wreath like structure
18:37 < delinquentme> or monitor brain activity /
18:37 < delinquentme> mind / computer bridge
18:37 < delinquentme> ... there was also a ted talk on it
18:38 < kanzure> there is no such thing as a "mind computer bridge" except your hands
18:39 < delinquentme> kanz you did the work on it
18:39 < kanzure> that's how i know it sucks
18:39 < delinquentme> yeah whats it called
18:39 < kanzure> are you talking about eeg things?
18:39 < delinquentme> i just want to show it to someone
18:40 < kanzure> openeeg
18:40 < kanzure> emotiv
18:40 < delinquentme> I think... there was a ted talk on it
18:40 < kanzure> neurosky
18:40 < delinquentme> emotiv!
19:02 < kanzure> http://17startup.com/
19:02 < kanzure> what is it with the chinese and naming websites with numbers?
19:20 < augur> kanzure: is it some trend thats more common with chinese websites than with american ones?
19:20 < ParahSailin> yi qi also means together
19:20 < augur> because i havent noticed this
19:20 < ParahSailin> so its kind of a pun
19:21 < ParahSailin> 1 7 = yi qi = together
19:57 < ybit> probably because it's the easiest way to get a dotcom with a relatively easy word to memorize
19:57 < ybit> re: 19:02 < kanzure> what is it with the chinese and naming websites with numbers?
20:01 < ParahSailin> i just gave the answer
20:01 < ParahSailin> chinese like to make lots of puns with arabic numerals
20:02 < ParahSailin> 88 = good bye
20:02 < ParahSailin> "ba ba" ~ bye bye
20:02 < kanzure> augur: 164 is another popular one
20:05 < augur> yi liu si
20:05 < augur> hmm
20:05 < augur> ParahSailin: does that mean anything interesting?
20:06 < ParahSailin> 一路死 go to death
20:06 < augur> :X
20:06 < ParahSailin> that wouldnt be a very auspicious web site
20:06 < ParahSailin> in general 4 is a bad number for chinese
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20:27 < ybit> so 4444 would be doom
20:31 < ybit> i kind of envision ParahSailin facepalming right now :)
20:40 < augur> ybit: what about a 4-dimensional cube of 4's
20:40 < augur> instead of a lin
20:40 < augur> e
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21:18 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 4035b43 
21:20 < kanzure> jrayhawk: where did rmuser or deluser go in pinyhelp?
21:21 < kanzure> oh you probably just want me using userdel
21:22 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 61f75b8 Revert "(no commit message)".
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21:39 < kanzure> nmz787: hi
21:40 < sheena> nmz787: did you get your FNA figuredout?
21:42 < nmz787> FNA?
21:43 < sheena> Fine Needle Aspirate?
21:43 < nmz787> oh, no
21:43 < sheena> I can't help any on the where, but it's a pretty simple procedure to do.
21:44 < nmz787> have you done it?
21:45 < sheena> on animals
21:46 < sheena> i've done a few, and looked at slides for some
21:46 < nmz787> where are you?
21:46 < sheena> cell ID can be tricky though, if you're not terribly familiar with it
21:46 < nmz787> wanna try me?
21:46 < sheena> the interior of British Columbia, Canada
21:46 < nmz787> oh
21:46 < sheena> sorry
21:50 < sheena> but, i bet there's good how-to's on youtube
21:50 < nmz787> kinda far to go
21:50 < sheena> you can't go too wrong if you have a discrete mass
21:50 < nmz787> i could have my mom do it probably
21:50 < sheena> you're in the states somewhere.. NY?
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21:50 < nmz787> yes
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21:51 < sheena> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kFaHoq5WCg this is pretty good. I've only done it with the syringe for aspirating, but just-needle should work also.
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21:54 < sheena> i dunno what the laws are in NY, or elsewhere, but you might be able to make the slides and send them out to be looked at.. maybe
22:00 < ParahSailin> fine needle aspirate?
22:00 < ParahSailin> i tried to do that to get some subcutaneous tissue once
22:01 < nmz787> how'd it go?
22:01 < ParahSailin> couldnt really get anything
22:01 < ParahSailin> i was probably trying to do it all wrong
22:03 < nmz787> looks pretty simple, except there's a nerve that runs right around there, so it may need more finesse
22:03 < nmz787> the site that i want to look at is only the size of maybe a peppercorn
22:03 < ParahSailin> oh shit what are you doing
22:03 < nmz787> or popcorn kernel
22:04 < nmz787> extracting adrenochrome from myself
22:04 < nmz787> j/k
22:05 < nmz787> i've got a little mass on my http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parotid_gland#Innervation
22:05 < nmz787> it could be infection, a stone in the salivary tube, or tumor
22:06 < nmz787> but i think i've had the mass there for a few years, always thinking it was some ingrown hair causing the inflammation... or a really subsurface pimple or something
22:07 < nmz787> kanzure: do you think we should manually approve all first comments or something for the wiki?
22:07 < nmz787> if all you need to do is that link to get an account
22:08 < kanzure> well, it's easy to revert edits
22:08 < kanzure> very easy to fix things when they screw up
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22:09 < kanzure> but, it would be nice to have a branch where we have an 'official' version or something
22:09 < kanzure> so approved edits get put into the official version or something
22:09 < kanzure> and then we can have a separate wiki showing the 'official' version?
22:09 < kanzure> jrayhawk: what's the right way to handle this?
22:11 < nmz787> i just dont want shit getting spammed to hell
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22:14 < kanzure> nmz787: understandable
22:15 < kanzure> so this looks like an interesting way to graph data.. http://chartulo.us/ so you just pipe csv over http to them i guess
22:15 < kanzure> and then they spit out a pastebin-esque link to a graph
22:15 < kanzure> i don't see why they don't just ask you to use curl
22:16 < kanzure> curl -X post -whatever data.csv http://chartulo.us/ and get back a pastebin-esque link
22:17 < nmz787> whats the advantage over R or the openoffice type things
22:17 < kanzure> presumably this is a link you can paste to someone
22:18 < nmz787> i guess if you don't like google docs
22:18 < kanzure> i dunno, it's like pastebin or httpbin.org
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22:38 < sheena> if you're concious, you should be able to know if you're hitting a nerve.. go slow, use a smallish guage needle, and you should feel it in time to not.. yaknow.. break anything :)
22:47 < nmz787> hmm
22:47 < nmz787> feedback is a pretty good thing
22:47 < nmz787> i suppose i could convince myself to do it
22:48 < nmz787> what about dyes and fixatives?
22:49 < sheena> shoudl be pretty easy to get from a basic chem supplier?
22:51 < sheena> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff-Quick that's what I'm familiar with, mostly
22:51 < sheena> its pretty easy
22:54 < sheena> http://www.thermoscientific.com/ecomm/servlet/productsdetail_11152___12983279_-1 ?
22:59 < nmz787> to check for cancer wouldn't you want to stain the DNA
22:59 < nmz787> to check for chromosomal abnormalities?
22:59 < nmz787> translocations and such
22:59 < nmz787> or breakage
23:00 < nmz787> i wonder how the diff-quick is for DNA over traditional giemsa
23:00 < sheena> you're going much higher zoom than i ever have, if you're looking at the DNA..
23:01 < nmz787> oh
23:01 < nmz787> it was just what the wiki page said for giemsa
23:02 < sheena> if you're putting cells on a slide, to examine them, you will want to fix and stain them
23:02 < sheena> that's the extent of my familiarity. i've not done any electrophoresis or dna analysis at all..
23:02 < nmz787> i could try to grow them... if they stay alive, they're not normal cells anymore :P
23:02 < sheena> lmao
23:02 < sheena> good luck with that
23:23 < sheena> so bryan seems to think you might know about blood chemistry tests..
23:23 < kanzure> spectral things.
23:36 < kanzure> ParahSailin: did you know about this? http://lorenzosbrain.blogspot.com/
23:38 < ParahSailin> 'neuroradiology'
23:41 < ParahSailin> didnt know he was epileptic
23:41 < kanzure> i think the point is he used to be
23:41 < ParahSailin> sucks that hes back in italy
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