--- Log opened Sun Sep 09 00:00:21 2012 00:23 -!- nsh [~nsh@host86-137-13-64.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:52 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- EnLilaSko- [~Nattzor@m90-129-20-98.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:46 -!- _0bitcount [~ulises11@213.37.53.136.dyn.user.ono.com] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 04:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:17 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:25 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@76-14-130-152.rk.wavecable.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:28 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@76-14-130-152.rk.wavecable.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:34 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-212-80.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:44 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:55 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 04:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:19 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:10 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:18 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr.inka-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr.inka-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 < chris_99> i'm just looking @ http://openwetware.org/wiki/DIYbio/FAQ/Projects and i notice the laser shutter one, what would that be used for out of interest 08:04 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 < kanzure> chris_99: or see http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/projects 08:26 < kanzure> i think that might be an optical trap thing 08:27 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_tweezers 08:27 < kanzure> "Optical tweezers (originally called "single-beam gradient force trap") are scientific instruments that use a highly focused laser beam to provide an attractive or repulsive force (typically on the order of piconewtons), depending on the refractive index mismatch to physically hold and move microscopic dielectric objects." 08:27 < chris_99> oh right cool 08:30 < chris_99> i was thinking you could mod. one of those shutter glasses 08:30 < chris_99> for that 08:32 < ThomasEgi> shutterglasses are very low copared to lasers. 08:32 < ThomasEgi> *slow 08:33 < chris_99> i was thinking the actual crystal would be fast? maybe not 08:33 < chris_99> actually i guess they're like 100Hz tops 08:34 < ThomasEgi> if that's good enough. 08:34 < ThomasEgi> i woludn't know. was just mentioning it. 08:35 < chris_99> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPmP0u1HuUM 08:36 < chris_99> ^ photopolymer 3D printer 08:42 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- Guest87811 [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39 < kanzure> have there been any mysql man-in-the-middle attacks out in the wild? 09:40 < chris_99> i don't know much about how mysql works but is it even encrypted 09:41 < chris_99> oh it uses SSL 09:42 < chris_99> did you here about the ridiculous mysql vulnerability though 09:42 < chris_99> recently 09:50 < kanzure> no 09:50 < kanzure> um, so, it's ssl but i rarely see people setting up certs properly 09:52 < chris_99> http://www.darknet.org.uk/2012/06/mysql-1-liner-hack-gives-root-access-without-password/ 09:53 < chris_99> also mysql shouldn't really be publicly accessible anyway 09:56 < kanzure> hey thanks for that 09:57 < chris_99> interestingly debian wasn't affected afaik 09:57 < chris_99> guess they used a diff. version 09:57 < kanzure> i'm pretty sure most people don't run ubuntu in production, it seems to be ubuntu "only"? 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17:59 < eudoxia> lesswrong 18:00 * kanzure nods 18:00 < joshcryer> Wait what? 18:00 < joshcryer> Lesswrong invented MLP fandom? 18:00 < kanzure> eudoxia: this knowledge is a terrible burdon 18:00 < kanzure> burden 18:03 < eudoxia> and the karma system is disgustingly addictive 18:03 < kanzure> oh you participate? stop that 18:03 < ParahSailin_> i didnt see any mlp stuff on lw 18:03 < ParahSailin_> link? 18:03 < kanzure> pony rationality fanfic is everywhere 18:03 < kanzure> and then it turns into.. uh. 18:03 < eudoxia> I should just download a couple programming language references and blow up my modem and move to a bug out hut (built with OSE machinery of course) 18:04 < kanzure> eudoxia: what you use a modem? 18:04 < kanzure> i think programming is more fun with an internet connection 18:04 < eudoxia> kanzure: well i don't know how else to connect to the internet 18:04 < eudoxia> i got this wifi thing that hooks up with the router and that's that 18:05 < eudoxia> is github part of the fun of programming with an internet connection? 18:05 < eudoxia> i heard it "gamifies" it 18:06 < kanzure> github hosts a lot of software 18:06 < kanzure> and without the internet it is hard to download software 18:25 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 < joshcryer> http://lesswrong.com/lw/5oc/rationality_exercise_my_little_pony/ omg 18:32 < eudoxia> it's so hard to take anything they write seriously anymore 18:33 < joshcryer> I don't even know what I'm reading. 18:38 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:40 < delinquentme> kanzure, thoughts on a python API / webserver running on raspberry pi ... to control machines? 18:42 < kanzure> i'm not sure why it needs http? 18:43 < kanzure> what machines are you controlling? 18:43 < kanzure> and what are the operations/commands 19:09 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-235-247.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:11 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:18 < delinquentme> hmm this is true 19:18 < delinquentme> jmil, A4984 19:18 < jmil> delinquentme: ? 19:18 < delinquentme> thats the driver on the rambo 19:19 < delinquentme> you're saying that the code you had here: https://github.com/jmil/Marlin/tree/komodo_dev 19:19 < delinquentme> runs some kind of breakout board for the A4984? 19:19 < jmil> rambo firmware 19:21 < jmil> delinquentme ah! a4984 has overcurrent protection unlike a4983: http://www.allegromicro.com/Products/Motor-Driver-And-Interface-ICs/Bipolar-Stepper-Motor-Drivers/A4984.aspx 19:23 < jmil> delinquentme: a4988 is better: http://www.allegromicro.com/Products/Motor-Driver-And-Interface-ICs/Bipolar-Stepper-Motor-Drivers/A4988.aspx 19:24 < jmil> this was original choice for RAMBo but they were backordered and he had to ship 19:28 < jmil> i think 19:29 < delinquentme> oh so it wasnt the driver on that pololu chip .. but the design that was busted 19:29 < delinquentme> so the same chip .. with a different board .. preferably one without the physical trimpot? 19:29 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:31 < jrayhawk> MLP:FIM is the sequel to Star Trek TNG 19:31 < jrayhawk> http://victoria.omgwallhack.org/home/jrayhawk/img/dump/picturesforsadchildren-startrek2.png 19:33 < jmil> delinquentme: not sure, i just asked johnnyr though. check back with me next week if i've heard back from him. 19:33 < delinquentme> check. 19:53 < kanzure> jrayhawk: i always thought empathy was a shitty super power to get 19:53 < kanzure> kind of like heart in captain planet 19:55 < ParahSailin_> empathy is a very good dark arts superpower 19:55 < yashgaroth> just play poker with it 19:55 < kanzure> only robots play poker 19:55 < kanzure> poker bot 9000 19:55 < yashgaroth> whoa dude what if like robots had super powers man 19:55 < jrayhawk> well the point is that it is a super power only to people who have stunted social development 19:56 < jrayhawk> fortunately star trek TNG knew its audience! 19:56 < kanzure> empathy isn't the same thing as telepathy 19:56 < jrayhawk> as does MLP:FIM 19:56 < yashgaroth> yeah, but if it's at superpower level, then why not 20:01 < kanzure> FINE. geeze. 20:02 < yashgaroth> yay! 20:04 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:23 < kanzure> hmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorak_(slang) 20:42 < tashoutang> excuse me, is there any IRC channel having the topics about xoops? 20:43 < kanzure> xoops? 20:44 < tashoutang> yeah 20:44 < Mokbortolan_1> what's a xoop? 20:44 < delinquentme> OK heres a brain teaser: 20:45 < tashoutang> a modulated tool based on linux used to constract a website 20:45 < delinquentme> if you had to guess which process would result in better vibration dampening for a metal rod sunk into concrete 20:45 < Mokbortolan_1> kanzure: oh! that explains the armor of the same name in the old BBS game "Usurper" 20:45 < kanzure> tashoutang: ah, it's written in PHP. i think xoops is very bad. 20:45 < kanzure> tashoutang: please do not use xoops. 20:45 < delinquentme> which process would be better suited: casting the metal rod into the concrete ... IE pour concrete around the rod 20:45 < delinquentme> or pouring a solid block .. then drilling in holes 20:46 < Mokbortolan_1> then securing it with epoxy? 20:48 < kanzure> holy hell i swear this is lorenzo albanello in this trekkie documentary 20:48 < kanzure> was lorenzo bald before his seizures started? say, in 2004? 20:53 < kanzure> oh good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stovokor_(band) "Stovokor is an American death metal band from Portland, Oregon. The band is solely based on the Klingon characters that appear in the Star Trek franchise." 20:53 < kanzure> jrayhawk can you get them to play at alcor 21:01 -!- _0bitcount [~ulises11@213.37.53.136.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:06 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:13 < tashoutang> kanzure God, I had used it to setup a website on one old Eee PC....with XOOPS... 21:13 < tashoutang> kanzure do you have any other suggestions? 21:13 < kanzure> tashoutang: yes. what type of website? 21:16 < tashoutang> well, a very rough website, just used as a note... or primary form of note in cloud.... a person hard disk as save datas from elsewhere.... 21:16 < tashoutang> personal 21:18 < kanzure> tashoutang: there are many tools that might help you, but aren't websites. for example, dropbox can help you save data from multiple computers. 21:19 < kanzure> but if you really want a personal website where you can put files, you will have to find a place to host your website. 21:20 < tashoutang> yeah 21:20 < tashoutang> that means to rent a space... in a virtual master? 21:20 < kanzure> there are many free options that do not charge rent 21:21 < tashoutang> ok, mmm. yeah 21:21 < tashoutang> ahd dropbox, has small space... 21:21 < kanzure> 2 GB 21:21 < tashoutang> and 21:21 < tashoutang> mmmm.... 21:21 < kanzure> google gdrive has more i think (5 GB?) 21:22 < tashoutang> My gmail has 10GB space 21:22 < kanzure> yes but it is not a website :) 21:22 < tashoutang> haha 21:22 < tashoutang> right 21:22 < kanzure> gmail gives me 80 GB, btw. 21:23 < tashoutang> wow 21:23 < tashoutang> so you must have used Gmail for at least 6 years.. 21:23 < tashoutang> anyway, in the beginning , I want to mimic dxy.cn 21:24 < tashoutang> however, it is a difficult way.... 21:24 < kanzure> dxy.cn is a big site :) 21:24 < tashoutang> especially for one who does not have the knowlege of programming 21:24 < tashoutang> yeah 21:24 < kanzure> i suggest learning about ruby/rails 21:24 < kanzure> it is a very helpful community 21:24 < tashoutang> ruby is for c language 21:25 < tashoutang> rails for? 21:25 < tashoutang> and can they be set up on win 7 sys? 21:26 < kanzure> rails is a web framework written in ruby 21:26 < tashoutang> ok, I understand... 21:26 < kanzure> yes it can run on windows 7, but most people use linu 21:26 < kanzure> *linux 21:26 < tashoutang> OK, 21:27 < kanzure> i find that development is easier on linux because you can use package managers to install tools, libraries, etc. without lots of effort :) 21:27 < tashoutang> does the sys have the "multiple modes" option now? "windows 3 has this func..." 21:27 < kanzure> sudo apt-get install ruby-rails-3.2 <-- and then it is done :) 21:28 < tashoutang> OK 21:28 < kanzure> what does "multiple modes" mean? 21:28 < tashoutang> starting options 21:28 < tashoutang> with different disk operating sys. 21:28 < kanzure> yes, you can boot different operating systems 21:28 < tashoutang> OK 21:28 < kanzure> but, if you already like windows, you should consider using a virtual machine with virtualbox or bochs or qemu 21:29 < kanzure> then you can run linux while running windows 21:29 < tashoutang> mmmm.... 21:29 < tashoutang> good 21:29 < kanzure> tashoutang: /join #ubuntu-cn 21:29 < kanzure> is a very helpful channel 21:30 < tashoutang> yeah, 21:32 -!- _0bitcount [~ulises11@213.37.53.136.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33 -!- MetaCheese [~stephenma@142.176.114.177] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 < kanzure> MetaCheese: hi 21:36 < kanzure> brownies: i dunno how this is supposed to work with commonjs' packaging format :| https://github.com/twitter/bower 21:37 < MetaCheese> hi 21:38 < kanzure> MetaCheese: what brings you here? 21:39 < MetaCheese> saw it in the #reddit-nootropics topic, seemed interesting 21:40 < kanzure> okie dokie 21:44 < MetaCheese> and i happen to work for a pharmaceutical 21:44 < yashgaroth> in what capacity 21:45 < MetaCheese> just as a quality control chemist, no R&D or anything 21:45 < yashgaroth> so, small molecule stuff? 21:46 < MetaCheese> mostly 21:46 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 < yashgaroth> and QC for that would generally be mass spec, hplc stuff I'm guessing? 21:48 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:49 < MetaCheese> not much mass spec, lots of uplc/hplc, GC, and some simpler stuff like UV, IR 21:49 -!- strages_shop [~strages@adsl-98-67-111-237.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:50 < yashgaroth> ah cool 21:59 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:01 -!- strages_shop [~strages@adsl-98-67-111-237.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:03 < Jora> hu 22:11 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 22:25 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-45792f2b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:58 < brownies> kanzure: commonJS has facilities for importing in text and whatnot 23:00 < nmz787> beep 23:07 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18 < kanzure> nmz787: hi 23:18 < nmz787> hi 23:19 < nmz787> kanzure: what's up? 23:19 < nmz787> just finished catching up on the logs 23:19 < nmz787> just finished driving 6 hours 23:19 < kanzure> sleeping. tomorrow i'm writing some python/boto code. 23:19 < nmz787> i calculated, in the past 2 years I've averaged 500 miles a week driving 23:20 < kanzure> i think you had some outlier weeks dude, not gonna lie. 23:20 < nmz787> yes, i did for sure 23:20 < nmz787> 2 round trips from NY to CA 23:21 < nmz787> a few up and down the CA and eastern coasts 23:21 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:22 < kanzure> nmz787: the emails from anselm might be amusing for a few moments, as a way to alleviate boredom 23:22 < kanzure> he was talking about how the "biology is justl ike programming!" hype is hype 23:23 < nmz787> kanzure: yeah I read them while driving on Friday, I believe 23:23 < nmz787> i feel like his comment on things not executing, rather flopping around is a bit.... shortsighted 23:24 < nmz787> since execute is really just an abstract term for doing a bunch of other shit 23:27 < kanzure> oh sure. 23:27 < kanzure> computer technology would take inspiration from biology, if biology wasn't so ridiculous 23:27 < kanzure> but people commonly assume that cells should take inspiration from computers, since computers are something we understand 23:28 * kanzure reads "High Velocity Dispersion in A Rare Grand Design Spiral Galaxy at Redshift z=2.18" 23:28 < kanzure> http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.4196 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.4196v1 23:33 < nmz787> lol 23:33 < nmz787> yeah, cells are worse at taking inspiration than a tired mule 23:36 < brownies> kanzure: so... apparently people want this. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/eallam/try-ios-iphone-app-development-course 23:37 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 23:40 < kanzure> brownies: damn. 23:41 < brownies> i know, right? 23:49 < nmz787> kanzure: have you seen the WiggleZ paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.6812 23:50 < kanzure> no i am sleeping but it looks worth reading when i wake 23:57 < foucist> kanzure: where's your kickstarter project? --- Log closed Mon Sep 10 00:00:22 2012