--- Log opened Sat Oct 20 00:00:01 2012
00:47 < archels> kanzure: thanks for the forward
00:47 < archels> can't say this is all very exciting, except maybe for OpenWorm
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08:08 < archels> on speed limits http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4526639
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08:29 <@kanzure> http://fora.tv/conference/open_science_summit_2012
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09:29 < nmz787> Jrayhawk, is there a place on your property where I could camp for a few days after reaching portland?
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09:51 < archels> http://browser.openworm.org
10:13 < archels> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2655718/table/pcbi-1000334-t001/
10:13 <@kanzure> what is it?
10:13 < archels> Databases and datasets containing information about neuroanatomical connections.
10:16 <@kanzure> fbi passwords http://pastebin.com/BjZMZV63
10:19 <@kanzure> damn, none of our agents are in there
10:21 <@kanzure> yikes REPORTBRIBES@ic.fbi.gov
10:21 < ThomasEgi> ctsecuritiesfraud@ic.fbi.gov - fraudadmin
10:21 < ThomasEgi> i like that one best^
10:21 < ThomasEgi> so much bout picking strong passwords
10:26 <@kanzure> nice http://leakster.net/leaks/
10:27 < curt1s> hi
10:29 < yashgaroth> I think 'akron.cv@ic.fbi.gov - akron.cv' wins
10:30 <@kanzure> none of these match any of the agents that i know about who are assigned to biohackers
10:30 <@kanzure> i am highly disappointed
10:32 < curt1s> (who you know about)
10:32 <@kanzure> well i have a list of about 20 agents
10:32 <@kanzure> some that i met in person at the fbi events and others that i know from random emails that were carbon copied to random agents
10:32 < jrayhawk> > Shit happens. Speeding makes it much worse when it does.
10:32 < jrayhawk> > Statistics repeatedly fail to bear out your assertion. Promised increases in death rates that accompany increased highway speed limits essentially never materialize. Modeling drivers as ideal gas particles whose collision rate is proportional to speed is simply wrong.
10:32 < jrayhawk> hee
10:33 <@kanzure> yeah, the severity of your death is not going to matter at higher or lower speeds
10:34 <@kanzure> "speeding makes it much worse when it does" pfft. 100 mph vs 200 mph you're still dead.
10:35 < curt1s> death at 200mph could be somewhat "better" from certain perspective
10:36 <@kanzure> it's definitely way cooler
10:36 < curt1s> quicker and less deathy
10:36 < curt1s> at 100mph you could feel more of the less desirable death-related symptoms
10:39 < jrayhawk> People routinely driving 100mph typically get rollcages.
10:40 <@kanzure> are rollcages good things?
10:41 < jrayhawk> Yep. Significant passenger cell reinforcement.
10:44 < jrayhawk> As a side effect, they usually increase torsional regidity, too.
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10:56 <@kanzure> yes, well, this would all be solved if everyone just admitted that my catapult plan is the best option
11:03 < exiff> Ey? A catapult?
11:04 <@kanzure> indeed. you can just launch people to where they need to go.
11:05 < ThomasEgi> good luck hitting the toilet.
11:06 < curt1s> do you drive to your toilet
11:06 < ThomasEgi> when i'm lazy i roll into the direction wiht my office chair
11:07 < ThomasEgi> if that counts as driving.
11:07 < curt1s> clearly there are situations where walking is best
11:07 < ThomasEgi> true
11:07 < ThomasEgi> but there are also situations where walking is the worst
11:07 < Urchin> http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3700/grunf.jpg
11:08 < curt1s> i prefer to take public transportation to the nearest restroom
11:08 < Urchin> I can translate if anybody wants, but it's fairly self-evident form the picture
11:09 < curt1s> translation please
11:10 < ThomasEgi> hm.. now that you mention catapults.
11:10 < Urchin> Grunf says: "Ready for take-off agent Rock?", Bob Rock responds: "What kind of veichle is this about? Doesn't this look a bit like a sling?"
11:10 < ThomasEgi> i've seen videos of some frensh guy who catapultet himself into the sky and pulled the chute for the way down
11:11 <@kanzure> i think parachutes would be too slow
11:12 <@kanzure> if you could somehow land on water at the right direction, you could just slow the water flow down
11:12 <@kanzure> maybe.
11:14 < Urchin> water does not deform much on impact
11:14 <@kanzure> hmm.
11:15 < Urchin> you're often better off hitting concrete than water
11:15 < Urchin> past a certain speed of impact
11:15 < yashgaroth> if you do a pencil dive and cover your nose and balls with your hands, you might only break a spine or two
11:19 <@kanzure> are there parrots that speak chinese?
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11:40 < curt1s> kanzure: definitely
11:41 < curt1s> i had a parakeet who would mimick all kinds of funny sounds
11:41 < curt1s> answering machine, old cable box changing channels, humans
11:41 <@kanzure> dialup modem?
11:41 < curt1s> he incorporated those things into his songs
11:42 < curt1s> heh im sure he wouldve done the modem too but he wasnt in a room with computer
11:42 <@kanzure> http://www.rockethub.com/projects/11106-crowdsourcing-discovery
11:42 <@kanzure> "But that’s where the trail starts to go cold. We believe that by using a powerful, proven technique called autoradiography, we can significantly move amphetamine research forward."
11:43 <@kanzure> "Our experimental strategy centers on using radioactive versions of amphetamine and methamphetamine, which can be detected using an electron microscope"
11:43 <@kanzure> "for example, the radioactive amphetamines we need will cost several thousand dollars."
11:44 <@kanzure> http://www.perlsteinlab.com/featured/distribution-and-marketing
11:45 <@kanzure> "The meth-treated cells showed evi­dence of “vac­uo­la­tion,” or an increase in the num­ber of intra­cel­lu­lar com­part­ments (those tiny bub­bles)."
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11:46 <@kanzure> the fonts on their site suck. it reloads the page after 5 seconds.
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11:52 < AdrienG> kanzure: and whats the surprise about vacuolation
11:53 <@kanzure> none
11:53 <@kanzure> i wonder where they are buying radiolabelled amphetamines
11:53 < AdrienG> idk
11:53 < AdrienG> sigma aldrich?
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12:14 < AdrienG> so basically
12:14 < AdrienG> with rockethub, you pay someone to obtain lucrative IP
12:14 < AdrienG> and get fuck all in return?
12:15 < yashgaroth> probably buying a radioactive precursor and synthesizing it with that
12:15 <@kanzure> yeah i'm not really sure i would want to fund this academic study. what exactly are they hoping for? to see some stuff in micrographs in certain clusters or areas?
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12:18 < AdrienG> i guess they are trying to elucidate effects of amphetamines on membranes.
12:18 < AdrienG> yashgaroth: u can buy C14 chemicals easily,
12:18 <@kanzure> i'm glad someone thinks it's worth studying, but i'm not convinced this is the next experiment they need?
12:19 < yashgaroth> adrieng are you asking or telling
12:20 < AdrienG> telling
12:20 < yashgaroth> ok then
12:20 < AdrienG> kanzure: what do they need
12:21 <@kanzure> money apparently
12:36 < ParahSailin> i think parrots would have an easier time "speaking" chinese than english
12:38 < ParahSailin> you get the tones and rhyme correctly, and a bird would probably be about as easy to understand as any given chinese from a distant dialect group
12:58 < strangewarp> AAAHHH
12:58 < strangewarp> Have you ever had an uncontrollable urge to pin someone against the wall, and yell in their face, "CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT REQUIRED TO COLLAPSE A QUANTUM WAVEFORM"
12:58 < strangewarp> ???
12:58 < strangewarp> x_x
13:00 < strangewarp> Because an intellectual I otherwise respect just discovered some sort of new-age essay about consciousness and quantum mechanics, and seems to have been duped by it
13:00 < AdrienG> kanzure: what do they need in terms of experiments
13:00 < strangewarp> blah
13:00 < AdrienG> strangewarp: wats his name
13:07 < jrayhawk> i read that sentence and was briefly worried delinquentme was back
13:08 < strangewarp> oh it's just some blogger who I tolerate because he tends to linkdump interesting things sometimes...
13:09 < strangewarp> jrayhawk: hmmm. I like that delinquentme has tried to monopolize wigging out :p
13:10 < AdrienG> strangewarp: what is your opinion of henry stapp
13:10  * strangewarp tries to recall who Henry Stapp is...
13:11 < strangewarp> from a quick wiki'ing, he may be a quack
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13:13 < AdrienG> yes a quack student of pauli and heisenberg.
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15:30 < eudoxia> so strangewarp your set of acceptable bloggers has been shrinking geometrically for the better part of the past six months
15:31 < eudoxia> what are you going to do when you run out of blogs?
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15:33 <@kanzure> eudoxia: maybe he just has a blacklist, and not a whitelist
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16:22 < strangewarp> eudoxia: I have no idea, maybe write a book and get fat
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18:18 < ParahSailin> i think solar pv is at the point where it's useful to buy for a house
18:19 < ParahSailin> 6-7% annual return, relatively risk-free
18:21 <@kanzure> you mean, it's worth buying a house just to generate electricity?
18:24 < ParahSailin> no, to buy as an addition to a house
19:17 <@kanzure> http://implicitcad.org/
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19:28 < bkero> kanzure: build 3d objects in haskell?
19:52 <@kanzure> bkero: yes it's in haskell
19:52 <@kanzure> it's just some implicit geometry stuff
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