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00:47 < fenn> /system/bin/rft "This is UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE of MMC Technology, Inc.; the contents of this file may not be disclosed to third parties, copied, or duplicated in any form blah blah blah" so what's this supposedly unpublished source code doing hanging out on my phone eh?
00:47 < fenn> at least have the decency to obfuscate your "unpublished" code
00:53 <@kanzure> fenn: related, http://www.strazzere.com/blog/2012/03/ops-did-i-publish-that-in-the-aosp/
00:54 <@kanzure> i was reading that earlier today because strazzere committed to a project that i forked
00:54 <@kanzure> erm, i mean commented. he didn't make commits.
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01:21 < fenn> "definitely an interest repository of code to take a look at, if not to see how Google coders work on “internal” code which isn’t released but to see their comments and documentation that is sometimes stripped from AOSP"
01:22 < fenn> do they really strip comments from the source?
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01:48 < fenn> why am i getting spam from a company that manufactures scales and load cells
01:48 < fenn> is this normal?
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02:49 < RebelBunny> They should make slideout mini laptops like tablets with slide out keyboards but mini ones, like samsung galaxy note-sized... that would be swell, wouldn't it?
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03:21 < fenn> they're called tablet computers
03:21 < fenn> uh, nevermind
03:22 < fenn> nokia n810 probably isnt big enough
03:24 < fenn> eee pad slider maybe
03:24 < fenn> someone's a victim of advertising here. i sure hope it isn't me
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03:29 < RebelBunny> fenn: proper OS would be needed for that
03:30 < RebelBunny> (for screen resolution and such)
03:30 < fenn> please elaborate
03:33 < RebelBunny> fenn: pad slider is too big
03:34 < fenn> it's too big, it's too small, wah!
03:34 < fenn> make your own
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07:27 < chris_99> http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2227312/cambridge-university-to-study-threat-to-humanity-from-tech-advances
07:27 < chris_99> that sounds like such a great job
07:35 < Mariu> :o
07:46 < ThomasEgi> getting paid for writing sci-fi? pretty good
07:46 < Mariu> LOL
07:48 < chris_99> heh ThomasEgi this is the FUTURE we're talking about ;)
07:49 < ThomasEgi> technologic dependency, hacked killer drones, collapse of infrastructure.. why do they even do a study about such stuff. it pretty much is obvious
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11:41 <@kanzure> i have no idea what this is http://quadrigy.com/questionsandanswers.html
11:42 <@kanzure> one of their recruiters spammed me
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11:56 < foucist> you know, it pisses me off that we need specific screwdrivers for specific screws.. what a clossal waste
11:56 < foucist> got a t6 torx screw?  need a torx 6 screwdriver!
11:56 < foucist> fuck that shit
11:57 < foucist> i want a screwdriver that changes configuration to fit the smallest or biggest screws
11:57 <@kanzure> foucist it sounds like you need a toolset for christmas
11:57 < foucist> kanzure: nah man, i don't want a zillion screw drivers
11:57 < foucist> i want 1
11:57 < foucist> have you seen those hardware magazines?
11:57 < foucist> like lee valley
11:57 < foucist> or whatever
11:57 < foucist> just a big catalogue of tools?
11:57 < foucist> i look at that and i see a clossal waste
11:58 < foucist> all we need to do is step back
11:58 < foucist> and re-engineer everything
11:58 < foucist> reduce the tools needed to a fraction
11:58 < foucist> OR just fucking get on with nanotechnology
11:59 < foucist> amirite or what!
12:02 < brownies> it seems that buying a screwdriver might be simpler than re-engineering the entire world ;)
12:02 < brownies> you could also invent a screwdriver that reconfigures itself. wouldn't be too hard.
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12:32 < nmz787> fenn http://phys.org/news/2012-11-self-filling-bottle-cues-beetle.html
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13:14 < foucist> brownies: yeah? i don't have any idea of where to start for a screwdriver that reconfigures itself :P
13:14 < foucist> brownies: except some sort of micro or nano tech
13:15 < foucist> or maybe something that's glue-based or gecko-sticky-thingie-based
13:15 < foucist> something the flows to mold, then freezes into shape, using electrical current?
13:15 < foucist> that*
13:15 <@kanzure> foucist: all you really need to do is re-tap everything, so just carry around a drill
13:16 < foucist> kanzure: pfft, overkill! and not everyone has a drill
13:16 <@kanzure> people in thailand don't have drills?
13:16 < foucist> i'm back in canada
13:16 <@kanzure> deep down inside i knew that
13:16 < foucist> and anyways i'm talking about in general
13:17 <@kanzure> ok fine, people in canada don't believe in drills?
13:17 < foucist> wtf bro
13:17 <@kanzure> heh
13:17 < foucist> we're trying to invent new technology
13:17 < Mariu> lol
13:17 < foucist> and you're worrying about hte present
13:17 < foucist> thought this was the future thinking channel, sponsored by the NRA
13:17 < foucist> am i in the wrong place?
13:20 <@kanzure> gaaah a guy who works on yeoman is in diybio and splicer doesn't want me to invite him in here
13:20 <@kanzure> splicer has always hated me
13:23 < nmz787> yeoman is what?
13:23 <@kanzure> lousy ui prototyping tool for web developers who hate themselves
13:47 < brownies> foucist: i was envisioning basically a very tightly compacted array of thin "needles" so you could press the screwdriver end onto a screw and a tip would form that conforms to whatever shapes are in the head of the screw
13:47 < brownies> then perhaps a locking mechanism, mechanical or magnetic or whatever, to hold the pins in place while you screw your heart out
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14:01 < foucist> brownies: yeah that's a good idea too
14:01 < foucist> though the needles or pins would definitely need to be super tiny, probably need thousands of needles to get the "resolution" required to mold properly
14:02 < brownies> it wouldn't be trivial, but it would be pretty cool
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14:12 < nmz787> brownies: for what?
14:12 < brownies> nmz787: eh?
14:12 < nmz787> what are you and foucist talking about?
14:13 < nmz787> something nano
14:13 < nmz787> then pins
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14:29 < foucist> nmz787: 1 screwdriver to handle all variations of screws from flat, hex, square, etc, small to big
14:30 < foucist> nmz787: since i think it's frigging retarded to have a million screwdrivers, screw bits, etc to handle all the fricking different screws
14:34 < brownies> nmz787: i was just brainstorming a universal screwdriver
14:35 < brownies> no idea how feasible it is
14:39 < nmz787> http://memegenerator.net/instance/30842441
14:40 < nmz787> brownies: foucist : so 1-upping this huh http://www.endeavorproducts.com/Gator_Grip/page/Gator_Grip.html
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14:48 < foucist> nmz787: nice, that looks like the inverse
14:50 < foucist> goes around the nut/bolt/etc
14:50 < foucist> rather than inside of a screw
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14:55 < nmz787> Microelectronic Engineering @ RIT - Silicon Wafer Preparation https://connect.rit.edu/p60701205/
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15:06 <@kanzure> tls sni testing endpoint https://sni.velox.ch/
15:07 < brownies> 3d printing is totally mainstream now http://dilbert.com/2012-11-05/
15:07 <@kanzure> I don't really like all those verify=False in all requests calls, but it seems that it complains when switched to True. Indeed, urllib3 doesn't handle SNI so the SSL connection on android.clients.google.com falls back to google.com. There are already 2 pull requests for SNI support in urllib (here and here, let's hope one will get through :)
15:07 <@kanzure> oops
15:07 <@kanzure> how did that get pasted
15:08 < brownies> nmz787: heh, actually, yeah. higher resolution and inverted version of that.
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17:39 <@kanzure> some people are claiming a $49 genome sequencing from 23andme today
17:40 <@kanzure> oh is this just their snp kit?
17:40 <@kanzure> that's stupid.
17:43 < brownies> i'm still vaguely uncomfortable sending my DNA into the cloud
17:44 <@kanzure> when you urinate you're sending dna to the sewars. is that also making you uncomfortable?
17:44 <@kanzure> sewers
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18:38 < brownies> kanzure: yes. i demand privacy clauses.
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18:39 <@kanzure> "we'll keep your toilet contents private"?
18:39 <@kanzure> oh are we still talking about 23andme?
18:39 < yashgaroth> https://www.23andme.com/about/privacy/ ?
18:41 < yashgaroth> I would like to see some sort of hyper-paranoid plumbing system that gamma-irradiated all your wastewater
18:41 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: do you poop straight into an autoclave
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18:42 < yashgaroth> depyrogenation oven, actually - whole lotta endotoxin in poop
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18:43 < yashgaroth> I imagine the massive HEPA filter and negative pressure ventilation in the house could get annoying, not to mention the NBC suit for the outdoors
18:43 <@kanzure> obviously, the correct thing to do is to incorporate a radioisotope into your dna with a very short half life
18:44 <@kanzure> also, you have to make sure you're the only source of the radioisotope
18:44 <@kanzure> as soon as it gets out of your system, poof?
18:44 < yashgaroth> oh I thought you mean it would destroy itself by emitting radiation...that works too
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19:40 < fenn> yashgaroth: haven't you seen GATTACA? all you need is a crippled wino and some scrubbie pads for the shower
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19:42 < yashgaroth> fuck that movie, poor mission to jupiter will float off into space when the navigator dies of his heart condition
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19:45 < fenn> meh, the robots will take care of it
19:45 < fenn> why send a human on an exploration mission anyway?
19:46 < yashgaroth> publicity or something
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19:46 < fenn> that's why they had to kill the other mission commander, he kept pointing out the logical inconsistencies
19:47 < yashgaroth> it's hard to make a good space alien horror movie with a robot as the protagonist, though I'd still like to see one
19:47 < fenn> come on, aliens 2? hello?
19:48 < fenn> bishop saved everyone's ass multiple times over while they were fucking around with their own personal issues
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19:48 < yashgaroth> sure, but he's not the main character; we expect robots to help out, not be the center of the story...unless it's a pixar thing or whatever wall-e was
19:49 < yashgaroth> ok I suppose there's been a few others so I'll withdraw the point
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22:14 <@kanzure> so uh rfid tags are $0.07/each now
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23:11 < ParahSailin> nmz787, carbonate is not redox active in aqueous solution
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