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01:35 < nmz787> huh, this looks pretty cool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Optical_Engineering_Software
01:35 < nmz787> I was also looking at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TracePro
01:35 < nmz787> and also found this http://www.lambdares.com/education/oslo_edu/
01:36 < nmz787> hmm, the free 'edu' version is windows only, i wonder if they make tracepro for unix
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10:22 <@kanzure> ThePot: hi
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15:42 <@kanzure> there should be a "detect what sort of shitty project this is" tool like "file" except for looking at a code repo
15:43 <@kanzure> eg to detect ant/mvn/scons/cmake/whatever
15:45 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: have you called them today?
15:52 < jrayhawk> fenn: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/83/2/456S.full robb wolf pointed out today that CXCR3 was also active in lipid plaque formation
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16:12 < panax> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-03/stem-cell-showdown-celltex-vs-dot-the-fda
16:55 <@fenn> $30k for processing your own cells? what, do they bathe them in caviar extract?
16:56 <@fenn> gah i can't read this stupid article, too much crap on the screen
17:18 <@kanzure> chrome verticaltabs https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimolldggofidcmfdkcffpjcgaggoaf/
17:18 <@kanzure> not quite a fix but it makes chrome less awful
17:22 < superkuh> I had to give up on Opera this year. It was sad. But anything >12k bookmarks and it's unusable.
17:23 <@kanzure> it's not like any other browser handles high bookmark load either though
17:23 < superkuh> Firefox 17 seems to handle it fine.
17:23 <@kanzure> i think it was after firefox 3.0 that they switched to storing bookmarks in sqlite?
17:24  * superkuh shrugs.
17:27 <@kanzure> i would probably be on firefox full time if firebug wasn't so slow
17:34 <@kanzure> i wonder if there's a build of firefox that uses webkit
17:37 <@kanzure> oh that's weird. mozilla uses mediawiki but all of their articles link to github git repos for revisions.
17:38 <@kanzure> "You can fork this specification on github to draft and discuss revisions."
17:40 < nmz787> no one around huh
17:40 < nmz787> oh
17:40 < nmz787> i was scrolled up in my buffer
17:42 < nmz787> kanzure what is the tab storing addon you use for firefox?
17:42 <@kanzure> i don't
17:42 <@kanzure> but i sometimes recommend toomanytabs
17:43 <@kanzure> fenn is supposed to be writing a better version
17:43 < nmz787> for firefox or for chrome?
17:43 <@kanzure> toomanytabs is for both browsers but iirc it was firefox first
17:43 < nmz787> as far as I saw, chrome doesn't expose the tab history or something, at least not in a objectified manner... you might be able to parse the browser history somehow
17:44 < nmz787> isn't there something that actually caches data, and pages tabs?
17:44 <@kanzure> to my knowledge no
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17:49 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: did you call them today?
17:49 < yashgaroth> kanzure: yeah I emailed them about it, and about 30 seconds later they sent me the login & password
17:49 <@kanzure> creepy.
17:50 <@kanzure> i forget the next step, but it's followed by using http://my.pdx.edu/ after logging into odin.
17:50 < yashgaroth> it was almost as if my email triggered it somehow, even though it was automated...indeed
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17:56 < nmz787> yashgaroth: cool!now to see how long your account stays active, since you're presumably not registering for classes
17:56 < nmz787> i read the usage policy and stuff
17:56 < yashgaroth> far as I can tell, they give you 3 terms to sign up for classes
17:56 < nmz787> only mentioned illegal stuff, or tampering
17:56 <@kanzure> firebug 1.10.4 takes 6 seconds to activate on firefox 17
17:56 <@kanzure> and firebug 1.11.1 takes 7 seconds on gmail
17:57 < yashgaroth> and once the 3 terms is up, nothing stops you from re-regging
17:57 < nmz787> ahh
17:57 <@kanzure> wow what, webkit inspector is taking 9 seconds.
17:57 < nmz787> maybe the school year is the kicker
17:57 < yashgaroth> yeah how long is a 'term' there
17:59 < nmz787> i think 10 weeks
17:59 < nmz787> quarters
17:59 < nmz787> http://pdx.edu/registration/calendar
18:00 < yashgaroth> $46.80 a year, approximately
18:01 < superkuh> Now I just have to wait for them to accept bitcoins.
18:01 <@kanzure> superkuh: bitcoin mastercard https://www.xmlgold.eu/en/site/cardInfo.html
18:02 < nmz787> kanzure: if you could find more schools like this, you could act as an intermediary and resell journal packages based on the schools'.... but since each person would have their own login you could just pass their requests through your server, to the schools, but using their creds for that school
18:02 < nmz787> so legally it'd all be legit i think
18:02 < nmz787> but the cust wouldn't know anything about the school
18:02 < nmz787> so you could mark up the price a bit
18:02 <@kanzure> so far pdx.edu is the only one that does this from what i've found
18:02 <@kanzure> other schools require things like transcripts
18:02 < nmz787> where else have you looked?
18:03 <@kanzure> rit, mit, duke, princeton
18:03 < yashgaroth> lower your standards a little
18:03 <@kanzure> no-name universities are less likely to have subscriptions
18:03 < yashgaroth> but far more likely to let anyone register
18:04 < yashgaroth> I doubt even the ivy leagues have real-time subscriptions to Current Gene Therapy
18:04 <@kanzure> then who does?
18:05 < yashgaroth> excellent question
18:06 < nmz787> https://www.umn.edu/dirtools/guestaccounts?desturl=https%3A%2F%2Fidp2.shib.umn.edu%3A443%2Fidp%2Fumn%2Fauthn
18:06 < nmz787> http://onestop.umn.edu/non-degree/registration/index.html
18:06 < nmz787> http://www.umb.edu/registrar/registration_courses/register_for_courses/non_degree_students/
18:07 <@kanzure> umn requires an existing student id
18:07 <@kanzure> "You must have your student ID number available to begin the initiation process."
18:08 < nmz787> UMB is letting me in
18:08 < nmz787> lets see where it goes
18:08 < nmz787> kanzure no you get the ID with the first UMN link
18:08 <@kanzure> i guess you can create an account here https://idp2.shib.umn.edu/idp/umn/getaccount.jsp
18:11 <@kanzure> and then it directs you to https://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/registration/initializeCurrentEnrollment.do which seems to not work
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18:13 <@kanzure> so that doesn't seem to work
18:13 < nmz787> New non-degree students or Inactive non-degree students must fill out our online free Non-Degree Undergraduate Application Form (only available Dec. 3 - Jan. 21).
18:13 < nmz787> Once we create your new student record and UMS number (your student ID number), we will email you a confirmation and instructions on how to enroll. Filling out this application form will allow you to enroll online one week prior to the walk-in registration period.
18:13 < nmz787> so I guess I have to wait til tomorrow?
18:13 <@kanzure> umb redirects to https://secure.visualzen.com/VZCollegeApp/UMB/
18:13 < nmz787> yeah
18:14 <@kanzure> i suspect that visualzen is a separate registration system
18:14 < nmz787> do they have ezproxy?
18:15 < nmz787> hmm https://login.ezproxy.lib.umb.edu/login?qurl=http%3a%2f%2fovidsp.ovid.com%2fovidweb.cgi%3fT%3dJS%26NEWS%3dn%26CSC%3dY%26PAGE%3dtoc%26D%3dovft%26AN%3d00044067-000000000-00000
18:15 <@kanzure> all of the university libraries participate in oclc (the library monopoly) which is the author of the ezproxy system
18:15 <@kanzure> so in almost all cases yes there's ezproxy
18:16 < nmz787> A Healey Library barcode is your access key to the library's rich assortment of resources.
18:16 < nmz787> How do I get a library barcode?
18:16 < nmz787> but...
18:16 < nmz787> Online students or students taking classes off campus, may call the Circulation Desk at 617.287.5900 to be assigned a barcode over the phone. They may also email library.circulation@umb.edu.Please be sure to include your first and last name, and your UMS number so we can properly identify you in our system. A barcode number will be e-mailed to you. All online and off-campus classes will be verified by the circulation staff.
18:17 < nmz787> sooo
18:17 < nmz787> let's see if I get a UMS # tomorrow
18:18 < nmz787> i see lots of potential results on google though
18:18 < nmz787> just searching "non-degree" registration university
18:19 <@kanzure> having to send an email is not autoamtic
18:19 <@kanzure> *automatic
18:19 < nmz787> http://www.cmu.edu/hub/registration/non-degree/index.html
18:20 < nmz787> http://www.cmu.edu/hub/registration/non-degree/non-degree-guide.pdf
18:20 < nmz787>   Complete a Non-Degree Student Registration Form, attached to this guide. This must be completed each semester you wish
18:20 < nmz787> to enroll. Return this form to The HUB, along with a one-time non-refundable application fee of $25. (This fee is waived for
18:20 < nmz787> Carnegie Mellon faculty and staff).
18:20 < nmz787>   After we have processed your registration form, you will be sent an email to the address on your registration form that
18:20 < nmz787> will give you your Student ID as well instructions of how to find your Andrew User ID and set your password. For more
18:20 < nmz787> information regarding your Andrew User ID and password visit Computing Services at http://www.cmu.edu/computing/
18:20 < nmz787> new-user/guests/accounts.html. (See page 7.)
18:21 <@kanzure> is this a web form or a pdf that you email?
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18:22 < nmz787> As a Carnegie Mellon student, you will be assigned an Andrew User ID and password. This will grant you access to the university
18:22 < nmz787> computing facilities and services including e-mail, Internet access, computer clusters and the Library Information System. For
18:22 < nmz787> more information, please visit the Computing Services website at www.cmu.edu/computing. Questions may also be directed
18:22 < nmz787> to the Computing Services Help Center at 412-268-4357.
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18:22 < nmz787> kanzure: which?
18:22 < nmz787> the CMU thing or the UMB?
18:22 <@kanzure> "After we have processed your registration form,"
18:23 < nmz787> probably online
18:23 <@kanzure> well, go look?
18:23 < nmz787> oh, no its in that pdf
18:23 <@kanzure> ah.
18:23 <@kanzure> well.. we could automate filling it out i guess
18:23 <@kanzure> what's in the form?
18:24 < nmz787> aww, we can't get visas
18:24 < nmz787> ". Students who register as non-degree students at
18:24 < nmz787> Carnegie Mellon are not eligible to receive visa documents including the I-20 and DS-2019 forms"
18:24 < nmz787> "Complete and return this form with a one-time $25 application fee to the University Registrars Office"
18:25 < nmz787> name, email, white/latino, address, course of interest, phone, signature
18:27 < brownies> do you have to take classes? or can you just register and avail yourself of their library forever for all of $25?
18:28 < nmz787> i had lib access before i registered for classes at pdx.edu
18:28 < nmz787> and only until the school year ends
18:28 < nmz787> then you have to pay another $25
18:28 < nmz787> (actually $27 since their processor charges $2)
18:29 < nmz787> i think the first thing to do would be scrape all the journal lists from the google search hits universities
18:29 < nmz787> then find the two or three biggest contributors to having a complete journal access profile
18:30 < nmz787> or at least being able to find Current Gene Therapy
18:36 < brownies> well, as long as you go with a sufficiently large/fancy school, it shouldn't be an issue
18:36 < brownies> CMU would meet that criterion, surely
18:37 < nmz787> i don't have Current Gene Therapy through RIT
18:38 < yashgaroth> like, at all? UW had a 6-month delay
18:39 < nmz787> oh, i only checked the latest issue
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20:06 <@kanzure> "A research prototype using Java for scietific information display. This shows a port of Guidon, a specialized client for viewing journal articles. This version downloaded its own fonts in a unique (US patent #5,910,805) way that allowed easy zooming and grey scale display"
20:06 <@kanzure> http://staff.oclc.org/~hickey/JavaGuidon.gif
20:07 <@kanzure> gah.
21:11 <@kanzure> it's weird how all of the libraries are in on it
21:11 <@kanzure> http://sled.idm.oclc.org
21:11 <@kanzure> whole state of alaska
21:11 <@kanzure> "digital pipeline".. yeehaw alaska, gotta drill for those bits.
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22:10 < delinquentme> " 3D reactionware matrix "
22:10 < delinquentme> http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v4/n5/full/nchem.1313.html  what does it mean?
22:12 < nmz787> for doing reactions in
22:12 < nmz787> macrofluidics
22:15 < nmz787> jrayhawk:  http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5744/2
22:15 < nmz787> it lists an inflammation factor
22:18 < delinquentme> so they're printing up lab ware to do reactions in ... and then keeping it in version control?
22:19 < nmz787> delinquentme: it's been a while since i read it, but i think that's basically it
22:20 < nmz787> delinquentme: i want to make similar things, but with microfluidics, not macro
22:20 < delinquentme> nmz787, is that significant or just novel?
22:20 < delinquentme> do the mixing vessles matter that much?
22:20 < nmz787> if things stay sterile, i think it's a step in the right direction
22:21 < nmz787> 3D printers are very prevalent today, no one can really do microfluidics
22:21 < nmz787> outside big labs
22:21 < nmz787> there are the homecmos guys i guess
22:22 < nmz787> but i think they have pro or academic connections too, at least for their day jobs
22:22 < nmz787> so they aren't amateurs
22:25 < delinquentme> cool find nmz787
22:28 < nmz787> http://nathanmccorkle.com/pdf/A%20maskless%20photolithographic%20prototyping%20system%20using%20a%20low-cost%20consumer%20projector%20and%20a%20microscope.pdf
22:28 < nmz787> http://nathanmccorkle.com/pdf/Direct%20projection%20on%20dry-film%20photoresist%20(DP2)__do-it-yourself%20three-dimensional%20polymer%20microfluidics.pdf
22:28 < nmz787> http://nathanmccorkle.com/pdf/Direct%20projection%20on%20dry-film%20photoresist%20(DP2)__do-it-yourself%20three-dimensional%20polymer%20microfluidics__supplementary.pdf
22:29 < nmz787> that's the state of the at-home art IMO
22:31 < jrayhawk> huh, that inflammation thing is kinda cool, though it seems a bit arbitrary
22:32 < nmz787> http://digitalcommons.linfield.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1041&context=studsymp_sci
22:32 < nmz787> that last one is "building and testing a photolithography system"
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22:35 < yashgaroth> whatup ia- oh
22:37 < nmz787> yo
22:43 <@kanzure> "OCLC acquired the trademark and copyrights associated with the Dewey Decimal Classification System when it bought Forest Press in 1988."
22:44 <@kanzure> pure evil right there
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23:08 <@kanzure> aaronsw wrote up some stuff about oclc: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/oclcscam
23:17 <@kanzure> oclc price sheet http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/library/libraries/OCLC/pdfs/oclcpricing.pdf
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