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00:17 < cpopell> paperbot http://www.scientific.net/AMR.633.148
00:17 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a7c08b65e66cfee9cf5eacd82af962c1.txt
00:19 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.scientific.net/AMR.633.148.pdf
00:19 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5f3b3f81aa6c737eea7dd5f13fa6ba29.txt
00:19 <@kanzure> no access
00:21 < klafka> <_<
00:21 < klafka> >_>
00:29 < klafka> hey are you familiar with pandas kanzure?
00:30 <@kanzure> panda the 3d gaming framework?
00:30 <@kanzure> panda the video encoding company?
00:31 <@kanzure> panda the R/python thing?
00:31 < klafka> python thing
00:32 <@kanzure> i haven't used it much
00:33 < klafka> trying to figure out if i can make pandas dataframe from sparse matrix
00:34 < klafka> oh i can just check this out
00:35 < klafka> i must admit i hate that it's 'DataFrame'
00:35 < klafka> wtf pandas
00:36 <@kanzure> so is this just a bridge to R?
00:40 < klafka> no
00:40 < klafka> it replicates and expands upon core functionality of R dataframes
00:40 < klafka> using numpy
00:40 < klafka> as its base
00:41 < klafka> looks like the answer is no btw
00:41 < klafka> which sucks :(
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00:43 < klafka> also it sucks you can't directly create a sparse dataframe directly
00:43 < klafka> which doesn't make sense because if you make the sparse dataframe from a non-sparse one oyu already have the non-sparse one in memory
00:43 < klafka> i think i'll make a sparse one and then pickle it
00:43 < klafka> (we can pickle that!0
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00:44 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: pasky: do either of you know a quick way to use filter-branch to prune empty merge commits?
00:44 <@kanzure> i can prune empty commits but empty merges are sticking around.
00:45 < klafka> i wonder if i should just not use pandas at all and just use sparse matrices
00:45 < klafka> hmmm
00:46 < jrayhawk> Do you mean fast forward merges?
00:46 < archels> paperbot: http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=23097501
00:46 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9784810afd70d575302b0cece186e49e.txt
00:46 < jrayhawk> You'd have to reorder the commits in order to get rid of merges; is that what you want?
00:46 < archels> paperbot: http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/10/78/20120669.full.pdf+html
00:47 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8e0e02fa29107d5900b332a6b828c96a.txt
00:47 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: actually, let me look more closely.
00:49 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: i have pruned a repository and deleted lots of files, and i wanted to remove empty commits. there were merge commits that now reference empty commits.
00:49 <@kanzure> for whatever reason, git is smart enough to not delete an empty commit that is referenced by a merge commit.
00:49 < jrayhawk> oh, i see
00:50 <@kanzure> i suppose it would have to transform the merge commit into a regular commit
00:50 <@kanzure> which sounds out-of-scope for normal git things
00:51 < jrayhawk> git-filter-branch --prune-empty
00:51 < jrayhawk> but if it's too late for that, then you'll probably have to programmatically use cherry-pick
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00:53 <@kanzure> oh wait that helped a little
00:53 <@kanzure> 800 commits -> 520 commits
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10:34 <@kanzure> there's lots of questions in the logs about whether or not google scholar supports google alerts
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11:00 < cpopell> finally on multiple monitors
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11:32 < eudoxia> haha
11:32 < eudoxia> oh shit wrong window
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11:35 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10827-012-0431-7
11:35 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20spatial%20pattern%20of%20light%20determines%20the%20kinetics%20and%20modulates%20backpropagation%20of%20optogenetic%20action%20potentials.pdf
11:37 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/1741-2552/9/6/066005
11:37 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Properties%20and%20application%20of%20a%20multichannel%20integrated%20circuit%20for%20low-artifact%2C%20patterned%20electrical%20stimulation%20of%20neural%20tissue.pdf
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11:50 <@kanzure> "Chrome 24 had MathML in it.  But they plan to turn it off in Chrome 25."
11:50 <@kanzure> what.
11:51 <@kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=152430#c32
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12:28 < archels> paperbot: http://jn.physiology.org/content/56/1/184.full.pdf+html
12:28 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Simultaneous%20control%20of%20two%20rhythmical%20behaviors.%20II.%20Hindlimb%20walking%20with%20paw-shake%20response%20in%20spinal%20cat.pdf
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12:46 <@kanzure> "Amazon Glacier is designed to provide average annual durability of 99.999999999% for an archive."
12:46 <@kanzure> i don't think i can count that many 9s
12:48 <@kanzure> 12:47 < rmah> so, if they have 100PB, they lose 1MB of data a year
12:48 < klafka> damn
12:51 < jrayhawk> huh, that's pretty cool
12:51 <@kanzure> "You can retrieve up to 5% of your average monthly storage (pro-rated daily) for free each month."
12:51 <@kanzure> "If you choose to retrieve more than this amount of data in a month, you are charged a retrieval fee starting at $0.01 per gigabyte. Learn more. In addition, there is a pro-rated charge of $0.03 per gigabyte for items deleted prior to 90 days."
12:52 <@kanzure> dropbox charges $60/mo for 1 TB. i'm surprised that there's no especially-cheap bulk file storage solution for consumer use (not companies).
12:55 < ephialtes480> ya, it is unfortunate. Amazon always involves calculations to figure out how much you will actually pay them.
12:55 < ephialtes480> I like secure companies like SpiderOak that have no access to customer data
12:55 <@kanzure> is that better than tarsnap
12:55 < klafka> you could always encrypt it
12:56 < ephialtes480> true, they save me the trouble though, looking at tarsnap now
12:58 < ephialtes480> tarsnap comes out at $30 for 100GB? Versus $10 at Spideroak - no bandwidth costs at Spideroak plus advantages of easy synch across computers and headless command line client
12:58 <@kanzure> "Spider Oak Blue costs $600/TB per month." ... no thanks.
12:59 < ephialtes480> I don't understand teh $0.30 per GB month on tarsnap?
12:59 < klafka> wow that's more expensive than s3
12:59 < ephialtes480> 0.30*1000=$300? no?
13:00 < klafka> yeah
13:00 < ephialtes480> where do you get $600? I have 500GB for $40 per month (but got it back when student)
13:01 < ephialtes480> https://spideroak.com/personal_pricing/
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13:22 < nmz787> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fei_company/
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13:30 < jrayhawk> coooool
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13:37 < juri_> very neat.
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13:39 < nmz787> ttyl
13:39 < nmz787> gotta go teach little kids about SCIENCE for an hour!
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15:43 <@kanzure> jstor watermarks are removable now,
15:43 <@kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/commit/b7b5a4ef65edb51eae2fdf1254e865b489f418b9
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15:49 < Juul> \o/
15:52 < ephialtes480> fantastic kanzure!
15:53 < ephialtes480> I spent some time working on Cambridge journals but it wasn't finding the object "Downloaded by" on the bottom of first page. slightly different structure to the Filter
15:53 <@kanzure> jstor injects the text into each page's content
15:53 <@kanzure> cambridge journals might do something similar
15:56 < Juul> this is off topic, but i have to mention it: the people on the other side of this desk are testing a home-made silicone butt-plug to prevent anal leakage, using a setup that brings to mind the word "contraption" involving two shakers on top of each other, rubber tubing, paper clips and a pig's rectum
15:56 <@kanzure> awesome, you should hang out with those people more
15:56 < Juul> i agree
15:56 < ephialtes480> I got tand journal articles working (deletes watermark at beginning and along each page) but ends up with mostly blank first two pages (removing nice summary of citation on first page), is there easy way to remove the blank pages with pdfminer?
15:58 <@kanzure> well, it would be nice if the summary could remain intact
15:59 <@kanzure> but yes you can remove entire pages using the pdfparanoia.eraser.remove_object_by_id(content, object_id) method
16:00 < ephialtes480> true, for some reason the object matching "downloaded by" also matches everything on first page. Your method for jstor cuts out a piece of an object?
16:00 <@kanzure> yes
16:01 <@kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/blob/master/pdfparanoia/plugins/jstor.py
16:01 <@kanzure> line 82 is where i replace the "Accessed: " line on the front page
16:01 <@kanzure> line 71 is where i replace the footer (it is literally the last text on the page, so i just delete that crap)
16:01 < ephialtes480> ok, no time tonight, but I'll see if I can get tand and cambridge journals journals working, and redo the former to be more surgical
16:02 <@kanzure> if you show me some sample files, i could try it
16:02 < ephialtes480> I'm a newb at github, is best way to check out a branch, push to my repo and then issue pull request with that when done?
16:02 <@kanzure> that's a reasonable way to do this yes
16:03 < ephialtes480> ok, I'd hand you the sample files but suspect you would make very quick work of it...I'd like to use this is as learning opportunity and I'll give it a shot, rather than dumping more work on you. Grateful for you getting this rolling...
16:23 <@kanzure> heh josh https://github.com/gourneau/BeardDetector
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16:32 <@kanzure> Etheros: hello
16:33 < Etheros> howdy
16:34 < Etheros> not much activity tonight?
16:35 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0735109793906992
16:35 <@kanzure> Etheros: what
16:35 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cardiovascular%20effects%20of%20lightning%20strikes.pdf
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16:49 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/abstract.cfm?id=18878
16:49 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fcb630c94bf47dba0623bbda11bfc5e8.txt
16:49 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/ao/viewmedia.cfm?uri=ao-13-10-2292&seq=0
16:49 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6715f8dabb362e12396200609fa79622.txt
16:49 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.opticsinfobase.org/DirectPDFAccess/F54B6E0E-F174-D2C1-7EA3CFB28E014B99_18878/ao-13-10-2292.pdf?da=1&id=18878&seq=0&mobile=no
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16:50 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/385eeeaebfa783d12e36abdd7a09668b.pdf
16:53 <@kanzure> welp i want one
16:53 < klafka> Q_Q
16:54 <@kanzure> laser thor is gonna be the best
16:54 < klafka> man i am amazed at the windows surface pro
16:54 < klafka> also nice paper from 1974
16:55 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.teramobile2.org/publications/hv_ol.pdf
16:55 <@kanzure> "Triggering and guiding megavolt discharges by use of laser-induced ionized filaments"
16:55 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f25c12796bb3653f76a4c346b5073e16.pdf
16:55 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://pop.aip.org/resource/1/phpaen/v8/i5/p2532_s1
16:55 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/acf488512adcaedd558575a663aadfcc.txt
16:56 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://link.aip.org/link/?PHPAEN/8/2532/1
16:56 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c2aa48ecdb98e83ec39344dac9757dd7.txt
16:56 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHPAEN000008000005002532000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.1342230&prog=normal
16:56 <@kanzure> "Triggering and guiding high-voltage large-scale leader discharges with sub-joule ultrashort laser pulses"
16:56 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/135478d226a06302402304edfa253604.pdf
16:57 <@kanzure> oh wait, that's not atmospheric. that's just some airgap.
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17:05 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000098000004043101000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.2009076&prog=normal
17:05 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/55f351b7ffafdd49e29774b7ca4713bc.pdf
17:05 <@kanzure> "Improvement of the atmospheric discharge laser-triggered ability using multiple pulses from a kilohertz KrF laser"
17:06 <@kanzure> blah, another airgap one. these scientists aren't thinking big enough.
17:09 < klafka> DARPA (the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) has awarded $3 million to software provider Continuum Analytics to help fund the development of Python's data processing and visualization capabilities for big data jobs.
17:09 < klafka> that's pretty cool
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17:10 <@kanzure> "the team's Teramobile laser is the first solid-state system to generate lightning successfully in thunderclouds. From a site atop New Mexico's South Baldy Peak, femtosecond laser pulses "seeded" storm clouds. As the lasers penetrated the atmosphere, they created plasma filaments along their path."
17:10 <@kanzure> "The lasers succeeded in triggering lightning discharges in the thunderclouds, though the pulses were too short-lived to provide a conduit all the way to the ground. Now the researchers are reprogramming their lasers with more-powerful pulse trains in a bid to create filaments that will conduct the lightning back to terra firma."
17:11 <@kanzure> "The lab was able to confirm that Teramobile's lasers generated local electrical discharges in the clouds, but the plasma channels only persisted long enough for them to travel a distance of less than 10m. Now the researchers are reprogramming Teramobile to create bursts of femtosecond pulses at 10x higher power."
17:11 <@kanzure> 10 meters :(
17:13 < klafka> what are you trying to do? make lightning from clouds with lasers?
17:13 <@kanzure> i think it would be fun and i'm wondering how feasible it is
17:14 < Mariu> will be nice to see multiple laser pointers on a cloud :o
17:14 < Mariu> at night
17:20 < juri_> um.
17:20 < juri_> if you can control where they strike, that's a lot of energy.
17:21 <@kanzure> "In spite of these limitations, field experiments using high-energy lasers [8] were carried out to intercept lightning with lasers on the shore of the Sea of Japan. A first CO2 laser delivering 1 kJ was focused on a dielectric target at the top of a 50 m high tower constructed on a 200 m high hill."
17:21 <@kanzure> "A second one was aimed near the dielectric to form a 2 m long plasma spark. A third, ultraviolet laser was producing a weakly ionized plasma channel, slightly offset from the tower, to direct the leader to the cloud."
17:25 <@kanzure> this is a good overview:
17:25 <@kanzure> http://www.teramobile.org/publications/PUILS_kasparian_lihgtning_revised_compact.pdf
17:32 < Etheros> whats wrong with nuclear power rather than going to all of the effort to develop a new energy source?
17:32 <@kanzure> that isn't for energy
17:32 < Etheros> oh
17:33 < Etheros> whoops sorry
17:33 <@kanzure> i have a flair for the dramatic
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17:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=120f8fbf Bryan Bishop: better support for aip.org
17:59 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
18:00 < paperbot> gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-07 01:59:59)
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18:01 < nmz787> kanzure: what you think about ppl saying that some watermarks may not be visible... and embedded somewhere, or steganographed?
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18:02 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=8a1b2c50 Bryan Bishop: ignore citation_pdf_url on aip.org
18:02 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
18:03 < paperbot> gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-07 02:02:59)
18:03 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://apl.aip.org/resource/1/applab/v100/i18/p181112_s1
18:03 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Tesla%20coil%20discharges%20guided%20by%20femtosecond%20laser%20filaments%20in%20air.pdf
18:03 <@kanzure> excellent.
18:04 <@kanzure> nmz787: i would like to see evidence of that. so far i haven't found anything. i've diffed files and i've looked at headers.
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18:17 <@kanzure> NickKovacs: hi
18:17 <@kanzure> welcome back
18:17 < NickKovacs> hi bryan
18:18 < NickKovacs> i was wondering if UT has like a surplus store with some old lab equipment for sale
18:18 < NickKovacs> like flasks, beakers, etc
18:18 <@kanzure> there's auctions i think, but i dunno about any surplus stores.
18:18 < NickKovacs> hmmm, well alright
18:19 < NickKovacs> so whats up?
18:19 <@kanzure> fixing https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia and https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
18:22 < NickKovacs> damn, thats awesome
18:23 < NickKovacs> I need to get better aquainted with github, not too sure how else to work on my programming skills
18:24 < ephialtes480> kanzure, fascinating, found how how Cambridge is obscuring the watermark
18:24 <@kanzure> NickKovacs: read lots of code, break things, experience the shame of writing bad code.
18:24 < ephialtes480> it encapsulates every separate character of "Downloaded by" in a bbox, making it impossible to find by usual methods...
18:25 <@kanzure> ephialtes480: that's lame. does it appear at the end of the data each time? maybe it can just be deleted recklessly without checking if it is "Downloaded by".
18:26 < ephialtes480> Manually looking at XML output of pdf2txt.py (from PDFminer creater Yusuke) identifies what may be the object number...testing this theory now...
18:26 <@kanzure> the object number will change from document to document
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18:42 <@kanzure> dunno if i'm going to do it now, but american society for nutrition also adds watermarks:
18:42 <@kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/2
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18:59 < ephialtes480> kanzure so you run each PDF through every plugin, wouldn't it be better to reduce duplication of finding the xref and grabbing all the objects? Each of the plugins go through that process. What if that was already stored before plugins check them?
19:01 <@kanzure> institute of physics: https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3
19:01 <@kanzure> ephialtes480: sure, that is one possible improvement
19:04 < cpopell> hm. I may have reasons to use pdfparanoia.
19:07 <@kanzure> damn, i should be using pdfs about paranoia to test pdfparanoia
19:08 <@kanzure> win 4
19:08 <@kanzure> ack
19:09 < Mariu> where ?
19:10 <@kanzure> ?
19:10 < Mariu> where is Win 4 ?
19:11 <@kanzure> what
19:11 < yashgaroth> idaho
19:28 < Mariu> :p
19:28 < Mariu> ok
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20:34 < nmz787> i can never remember the name of the windows version of baobab
20:35 < nmz787> ahh
20:35 < nmz787> windirstat
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20:35 < nmz787> 6gb of 297 free
20:35 < nmz787> yikes
20:35 < nmz787> i can't dual-boot with that!
20:42 < jrayhawk> liar; i ran debian just fine on a 360MB drive
20:44 < nmz787> lol
20:44 < klafka> man i do not understand the multi-armed bandit terminology well at all
20:44 < klafka> shit
20:44 < nmz787> klafka: what is that?
20:44 < klafka> it's a series of online optimization algorithms
20:45 < klafka> er set
20:45 < nmz787> like hindu gods? (except they aren't bandits)
20:45 < nmz787> oh
20:45 < klafka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-armed_bandit
20:45 < klafka> sort of - basically the idea is if a bandit had many hands to pull a slot machine on, which slot machines should he pull the lever on  and in which order
20:45 < klafka> for maximal return
20:45 < klafka> that's the 'inspiration'
20:46 < klafka> it's similar to reinforcement learning
20:47 < nmz787> klafka: so successful gamblers have solved this with their wetware?
20:47 < klafka> traditionally it was considered that you had no pre-existing knowledge about what machine to play
20:47 < klafka> no succesful gamblers don't play slot machines
20:48 < nmz787> klafka: my dad's gf literally goes to work, then comes home and plays online free slots, then sleeps, then plays online free slots, then goes to work.....
20:48 < klafka> on her phone?
20:48 < nmz787> laptop
20:48 < klafka> or computer?
20:48 < klafka> aah
20:48 < nmz787> but, they aren't rich
20:48 < nmz787> hah
20:49 < klafka> oh she plays it for money
20:49 < klafka> lol
20:49 < nmz787> though my dad says she's really good at it 'has the touch'
20:49 < nmz787> no, the online thing is point based
20:49 < nmz787> so its just feeds addiction i guess
20:49 < klafka> she's really working those pseudorandom number generators
20:49 < nmz787> but yeah i guess she goes to the casino with her mom n shit
20:50 < nmz787> and vegas sends her free deals
20:50 < klafka> that's slightly horrifying
20:50 < nmz787> yeah it's weird
20:50 < klafka> i work with a lot of companies that make mobile slots games or mobile bingo games
20:50 < klafka> it's incredible how popular they are
20:50 < klafka> like sooo popular
20:54 < nmz787> yeah, i dont get it
20:55 < nmz787> actually i installed my first android game earlier
20:55 < nmz787> it's some simpsons tapped out thing
20:55 < nmz787> it's probably as stupid as farm ville sounds
20:55 < nmz787> but i like the simpsons
20:55 < nmz787> so i'll screw with it i guess
20:56 < nmz787> it said its gonna download like 200mb of shit on the first launch
20:56 < nmz787> so it must have decent media
21:08 <@kanzure> the mobile casino apps are paying >$300/user that you bring them.
21:08 < klafka> kanzure: we do UA for them but also do advertising
21:08 < klafka> so they run our ads
21:16 <@kanzure> "People with access to enzymes, multielectrode arrays, and other Grinder materials"
21:16 <@kanzure> yep it's official i hate rich lee
21:16 < klafka> what?
21:17 <@kanzure> he's just throwing around words
21:17 < klafka> what are 'grinder' materials?
21:17 <@kanzure> "grinding" is a subculture that doesn't really encompass "enzymes" or "multi"electrode arrays
21:17 <@kanzure> he's just making up bullshit, exactly
21:19 <@kanzure> http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry/diy-grinding-get-in-here-transhumanism-is-a-verb-not-a-club
21:19 <@kanzure> he's been making up crap about grinding for a while now
21:21 <@kanzure> what a fucking liar "Nobody I talked to seemed to feel the same sense of urgency that I did."
21:22 <@kanzure> "Sure, Lepht was using non-standard tools and non-standard sterilization methods, but hey, " that wasn't the criticism -_-
21:22 < klafka> kanzure: you're familiar with that webcomic 'the man i almost was'
21:22 <@kanzure> no
21:23 < nmz787> where i'm from grinders are the same as hoagies or submarines
21:24 <@kanzure> nuclear submarines?
21:24 < klafka> http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/almostguy/
21:24 < klafka> wow this is from 1998
21:25 < nmz787> 'and homeostasis'...' I say eliminate the need altogether. '
21:25 < klafka> http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/rave/
21:25 < nmz787> (that might be out of context_
21:25 < nmz787> )
21:25 < yashgaroth> grinders are remarkably against eating, sleeping, pooping, etc
21:25 < yashgaroth> against the idea moreso than the practice, naturally
21:26 < nmz787> 'Sure, Lepht was using non-standard tools and non-standard sterilization methods'
21:26 < nmz787> i thought they completely omitted a literature search
21:26 < yashgaroth> yeah no she could definitely spring for a razor blade...potato peelers?
21:26 < nmz787> kanzure: no like subway sandwiches, they were originally called submarine sandwiches
21:27 < nmz787> kanzure: maybe not that specific company, but the type of sandwich
21:27 < nmz787> there was a lot of talk about coatings
21:27 < yashgaroth> oh I see how you guys got onto sandwiches
21:27 < nmz787> and i did a quick google scholar and found definitive factual info on what coatings worked, etc... that it took they a bunch of rejections to figure out
21:28 < nmz787> 'Lepht thought it all out more than I probably would have and the actual hazard was not that great in that instance anyway. '
21:28 < nmz787> hahahah
21:28 < nmz787> so he fails to do lit searches worse than lepth
21:29 < nmz787> 'Lepht thought it all out more than I probably would have and the actual hazard was not that great in that instance anyway. '
21:29 < nmz787> i mean
21:29 < nmz787> 'I met a woman named Poppy who had removed her own tonsils because she couldnt afford the procedure.'
21:29 < nmz787> that sounds useful
21:29 < nmz787> i'd like to read an article on her
21:31 <@kanzure> i mean, rich claims that nobody in transhumanism is doing anything, but there's some projects in here that are interesting and this place is peripherally related. fuck rich.
21:31 <@kanzure> (and rich knows us)
21:31 < nmz787> 'From now on Transhumanism is a Verb, not a Club.'
21:31 < nmz787> i think this guy should consult an english major to iron this out
21:32 < nmz787> i can't think of other -ism words that are verbs
21:32 < yashgaroth> schism
21:32 < nmz787> wouldn't the verb be transhumanize or transhumanizing
21:32 < nmz787> 'dudes i'll be back, i gotta go transhumanize'
21:33 < yashgaroth> transhumanize the eschaton
21:33 < nmz787> vs
21:33 < nmz787> 'dudes i'll be back, i gotta go transhumanism'
21:33 < nmz787> err
21:33 < nmz787> sorry, try again
21:36 <@kanzure> klafka: so i'm reading this, and this guy is an idiot. he did fake interviews instead of coding or building shit. i think he's an idiot.
21:37 < klafka> lololol
21:39 <@kanzure> "GUYS LIKE JARON LANIER ARE GOING TO BE BILLIONAIRES."
21:39 <@kanzure> oh that's just precious
21:39 < yashgaroth> ugh
21:39 < klafka> haha
21:40 < nmz787> who is jaron?
21:40 < yashgaroth> a shitlord who complains about virtual reality
21:43 < yashgaroth> in other news, 4 repraps slated for the local lab by tomorrow
21:49 < nmz787> the lifetech space?
21:49 <@kanzure> klafka: jaron lanier is a transhumanism hater
21:49 < yashgaroth> it's lifetech-adjacent, yes
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