--- Log opened Sat Feb 09 00:00:55 2013 00:08 -!- JayDugger [~duggerjw@pool-173-74-81-239.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- BioGuy [~BioGuy@184-76-124-69.war.clearwire-wmx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:34 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 01:33 < archels> paperbot: http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/113907 01:33 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b81236c659918f1462daeef9734965a.txt 01:43 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:06 < kanzure> "Does anyone in fact know what arXiv’s attitude is to batch-uploading old papers? Maybe they're cool with it already?" 02:06 < kanzure> i wonder if you could just dump all sorts of crap on arxiv's lap. 02:13 < kanzure> oh god people are listening to xp_prg "Thank you for taking out so much time to write all this for me. I cannot tell you how enlightening and guiding it was. This is was what I was looking for :) I would like to learn more from you. Could you help me out?" 02:14 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 < brownies> where? 02:17 < kanzure> brownies: just more diybio nonsense, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/diybio/ajOF_600gVQ 02:18 < bkero> kanzure: am I diybio nonsense? 02:18 -!- uuu-metacognitio [~metacogni@99-7-58-96.lightspeed.davlca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 02:19 < kanzure> huh? 02:28 < kanzure> tor service for pdf leaks http://articleak.allalla.com/ 02:28 < kanzure> http://jtdzkgzfpvhryjv6.onion/ 02:29 < kanzure> http://jtdzkgzfpvhryjv6.tor2web.org/ 02:33 < kanzure> seems to have no users or requests. kinda useless. 02:34 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 < kanzure> looks like some asshole was spamming that link around, http://www.reddit.com/user/PYYMazeD 02:35 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:38 < archels> heh that table seems rather underpopulated 02:39 < archels> "hit the edit button and get on it" yes yes, I know 02:40 < kanzure> JayDugger: http://prismscanner.org/ 02:42 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:43 < nmz787> very cool 02:44 < nmz787> kanzure: price? 02:44 < kanzure> i was asking him, don't as kem 02:44 < kanzure> *ask me 02:48 < nmz787> kanzure: have you ever used kicad? 02:48 < kanzure> a few times, not regularly 02:57 < archels> argh this 300 word limit on the abstract is doing my head in. 03:05 < archels> 322... getting there... 03:07 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 < archels> hum, I might have hit a local minimum. 03:12 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:13 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:18 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:24 -!- phm [~anon@host-92-19-183-221.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- joehot [~not@64.231.129.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39 -!- joehot [~not@64.231.129.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:40 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:28 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:32 < phm> So if you were planning to put a huge bitcoin mine in the back of a truck, and power it from stolen electricity... How exactly would you do it? Any ideas? 04:32 < kanzure> get a job 04:32 < phm> How does that help? 04:32 < kanzure> you can use your money to buy bitcoins 04:33 < phm> I want to generate them. 04:33 < kanzure> you can make other people generate them for you by paying for it 04:33 < phm> I don't want to do that. 04:40 < phm> jrayhawk looks like Feynman. Coincidence? 04:40 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:45 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:48 < kanzure> http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/205/0/5/Richard_Feynman_by_SamSaxton.jpg 04:56 < phm> Why does he have all those CRTs? 05:01 < phm> Did he live in a squat? What a pigsty! 05:02 < kanzure> because he needs them to see things. 05:02 < Viper168> I have a couple crts and they seemed ot be accumulating 05:02 < phm> I doubt that. 05:02 < Viper168> but now I've luckily moved to lcd 05:03 < Viper168> ages after the rest of humanity 05:05 < phm> lolz: http://heybryan.org/shots/setups/Superkuh_Jan22_06_desk_112956055_53fe3cf020.jpg 05:07 < phm> Please tell me these were taken in 1995. 05:08 < Viper168> what was superkuh talking again 05:09 < Viper168> the magnet wire is a nice touch, all desks should have a spool 05:09 < phm> What was he taking? Acid? 05:10 < Viper168> at least the room wouldn't get cold in winter 05:10 < kanzure> you associate monitors with acid? 05:10 < phm> no. 05:12 < Viper168> dunno, monitors always seem weird on such chemicals 05:12 < Viper168> like strange dark blocks in the white spaces 05:12 < Viper168> does weird stuff 05:16 -!- lolcat [~john@unaffiliated/energy-/x-7653247] has quit [K-Lined] 05:16 < JayDugger> 2006, judging by the file name. EXIF data left as an exercise for the reader. 05:16 < chris_99> heh 05:17 < phm> I thought you were futurists. 05:17 < JayDugger> Then and now. 05:18 < phm> These pix are just works of art? You don't actually use them, right? 05:18 < kanzure> we use pictures to communicate pixels to other people. 05:19 < phm> Stop being pedantic. It don't suit you. 05:19 < kanzure> i answered your question. 05:19 < phm> In an annoying way. Gee, thanks! 05:19 < kanzure> you're welcome. 05:20 < phm> Good to know. 05:20 < phm> When does jrayhawk wake up? 05:24 < kanzure> whenever he feels like it. he will probably be online in 540 minutes. 05:24 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4993574&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4993574 05:24 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe174418a253c43d0f8a5087f97d0f2c.txt 05:25 < kanzure> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/4915264/4993545/04993574.pdf?arnumber=4993574 05:25 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/98c3e9c2e78fda8ce68ef3aaa6aab4fc.txt 05:25 < nmz787> nope 05:25 < nmz787> out of subs 05:25 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:25 < nmz787> cription 05:25 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Changing host] 05:25 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:28 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5101287&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D5101287 05:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7fe76aecea63157653ef16d389c77664.txt 05:28 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29 < nmz787> paperbot: jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s1 05:29 < kanzure> needs a uri 05:29 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=110072&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D110072 05:29 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4fb2c10c1dda35a323bc087dc4ec07a4.pdf 05:29 < nmz787> paperbot: http:// jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s1 05:29 < nmz787> paperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v46/i11/p4965_s1 05:30 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bcb8504217d4370ef255135c3cd34296.txt 05:32 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 < phm> There does not need to be any reason or infringement other than being identified with reasonable confidence to be a sock puppet, and no warning is required or encouraged when enforcing the sock puppet ban. 05:34 < phm> lolz 05:35 < phm> Principles insist upon tolerance and support of all identity modes that citizens may choose to adopt. 05:35 < phm> What if I have MPD!? 05:35 < kanzure> can you go somewhere else to write those messages 05:35 < phm> I could. 05:35 < kanzure> i could remove you from this channel if it would help you do that 05:36 < phm> I would not. 05:36 < phm> it 05:38 < phm> Have I violated your 'spirit of Construction' meta-rule? 05:39 < nmz787> paperbot: scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal 05:39 < kanzure> uri again 05:40 < nmz787> http://paperbot: scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal 05:40 < kanzure> not quite 05:40 < nmz787> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal 05:40 < nmz787> is late 05:40 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f2b98fd7b1b8c86d5e4c2857f20d1c78.pdf 05:40 < nmz787> watermark 05:40 < kanzure> paperbot is not using pdfparanoia yet 05:40 < kanzure> pdfparanoia does successfully remove aip.org watermarks though :) 05:41 < nmz787> paperbot: http://http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf 05:41 < paperbot> InvalidURL: (LocationParseError(...), 'Failed to parse: Failed to parse: http:') (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 558, in send) 05:41 < nmz787> paperbot: http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf 05:41 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1f2af3482983ac6f6b37ac633be47e72.pdf 05:45 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=357e268e Bryan Bishop: use pdfparanoia to remove watermarks 05:45 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=53de3f36 Bryan Bishop: scrub away watermarks in another situation 05:45 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 05:45 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-09 13:45:08) 05:45 < kanzure> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal 05:45 < paperbot> TypeError: file() argument 1 must be encoded string without NULL bytes, not str (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pdfparanoia-0.0.7-py2.7.egg/pdfparanoia/core.py", line 39, in scrub) 05:45 < kanzure> aw :( 05:45 < kanzure> wtf github :( "ERROR: GitHub is offline for maintenance. See http://status.github.com for more info." 05:47 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=db58d53c Bryan Bishop: pass StringIO to pdfparanoia 05:47 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 05:48 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-09 13:47:58) 05:48 < kanzure> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000046000011004965000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.321482&prog=normal 05:48 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b9779d52432e726d93c076fd89f958c.pdf 05:48 < kanzure> no more watermarks :) 05:54 < nmz787> sweet 05:56 < phm> How many people here think that setting up an intentional community is important, short to mid term (let's say in the next 5 years)? 05:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:58 < Viper168> These pix are just works of art? You don't actually use them 05:58 < Viper168> we speak a language mostly composed of stupid pictures 05:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 < phm> Kanzure won't appreciate this discussion, so we're not going to have it. 05:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=7209fbb6 Bryan Bishop: README: mention pdfparanoia 05:59 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=143323b0 Bryan Bishop: README: better description of paperbot's manners 05:59 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 05:59 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-09 13:47:58) 06:00 < phm> If you understand the tracticus , feel free to PM me. 06:02 < nmz787> is there a netsplit happening? 06:02 < nmz787> i don't seem to follow ph m or viper 168 06:02 < nmz787> paperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v44/i11/p4908_s1?isAuthorized=no 06:02 < kanzure> no he's just fucking nuts 06:02 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/46dd955c976048c8828944f49a5a87b9.txt 06:04 < kanzure> paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=JAPIAU000044000011004908000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1063/1.1662060&prog=normal 06:04 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5099129&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F4915369%2F5099113%2F05099129.pdf%3Farnumber%3D5099129 06:04 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4180ba20e49415be9c124b39e06ce85.pdf 06:04 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e6ea552abbdb443c9cd17824e6ea714f.txt 06:04 < kanzure> i thought paperbot was working with aip 06:04 < kanzure> oh it was only for apl.aip.org 06:05 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=a8abdb23 Bryan Bishop: support both jap.aip.org and apl.aip.org 06:05 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 06:05 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-09 14:05:38) 06:05 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?reload=true&arnumber=6136733 06:06 < kanzure> paperbot: http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v44/i11/p4908_s1?isAuthorized=no 06:06 < nmz787> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?reload=true&arnumber=6136733 06:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Eddy%20current%20measurements%20on%20ultrapure%20molybdenum%20and%20rhenium.pdf 06:06 < kanzure> there we go. 06:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b8ec36532f08bd88de9595fd64aeabdb.pdf 06:06 < kanzure> much better. 06:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5c1d69cb8d37a5b65d65263f3c38e7f6.pdf 06:09 < nmz787> what'd you do>? 06:09 < kanzure> i made the aip.org check less specific, https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=a8abdb23 06:09 < kanzure> really, this whole block of code needs to be rewritten 06:12 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 < nmz787> night 06:20 -!- phm [~anon@host-92-19-183-221.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:27 -!- ephialtes480 [~Ephialtes@93.174.93.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:54 < kanzure> added a command-line interface (sort of?), 07:54 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/commit/775b927b427da27131d2c71e117bc0c87fb8aad6 07:58 -!- indigenous is now known as indi 08:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:43 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:45 < yashgaroth> man phm seems really butthurt 09:55 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:03 -!- Urchin[Emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:18 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@ip-64-134-230-249.public.wayport.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 < delinquentme> WEH 10:19 < klafka> hey 10:19 < delinquentme> #sudoroom 10:19 < delinquentme> lawl that was embarassing 10:20 < klafka> LOL 10:21 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22 < klafka> i hate when one ofm y cats won't let me work 10:22 < klafka> dammit 10:23 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:17 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@ip-64-134-230-249.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:31 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:34 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- Guest34984 is now known as juzprawiedaz 11:56 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 -!- Cat4D [425b8c22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.91.140.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:54 -!- ephialtes480 [~Ephialtes@96.44.143.234] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- Cat4D [425b8c22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.91.140.34] has quit [Quit: WHAT HOSTAGE?] 14:16 < kanzure> wow, dna20 was charging >$1.00/bp in 2011? http://www.reportergene.com/2011/08/gene-synthesis-review.html 14:16 < kanzure> also i didn't see this when it came out: http://blog.ginkgobioworks.com/2012/01/14/commercial-gene-synthesis/ 14:27 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:28 < yashgaroth> I could see them trying to pull that for their proprietary sequence optimization 14:30 < kanzure> paperbot: http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/2/353.short 14:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fd596fd1c03afbb1e4b9376205a24358.txt 14:30 < kanzure> paperbot: http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/2/353.full.pdf 14:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/916cc90de1b21532497745c92b22a024.txt 14:32 < kanzure> "In order to view content published before 1996 via the NAR site, access to the Oxford Journals digital archive is required." 14:32 < kanzure> fuck that 14:32 < kanzure> say what? "Alternatively content published before 1996 may be freely obtained by visiting PubMed Central." 14:33 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC342437/ 14:33 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Arylsulfonyltetrazoles%2C%20new%20coupling%20reagents%20and%20further%20improvements%20in%20the%20triester%20method%20for%20the%20synthesis%20of%20deoxyribooligonucleotides..pdf 14:33 < kanzure> well alright. 14:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42 < klafka> man i just fucked up making tea 14:43 < kanzure> did you put your cat in it, a common mistake 14:45 < klafka> nah i got impatient and it was a bit more than lukewarm whne i poured it 14:52 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14 < brownies> well, that's good. otherwise things could have gotten... catty. 15:20 < kanzure> brownies is our professor emiritus of cat jokes, 15:20 < kanzure> on a sabatical, of course. 15:23 < brownies> yes, things are busy, but occasionally i paws and drop in 15:29 < klafka> lmao 15:29 < klafka> well said 15:36 < kanzure> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2013/02/07/institutional-readerism-the-royal-society-of-chemistry-isnt-putting-serious-effort-into-open-access/ 15:36 < kanzure> rightslink :( 15:37 < kanzure> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2012/11/08/is-the-royal-society-of-chemistry-really-cheaper-than-acs-rsc-charge-50-usd-per-student-per-page-for-teaching-materials/ 15:50 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:02 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 < juri_> kanzure: re: cat: awesome. 16:17 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 16:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p54B4FB79.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@p54B4FB79.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:40 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 -!- augur [~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:23 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: what do you think of using this http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/639502705/TG2100FN_Eddy_current_0_1250um_coating.html 17:24 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4fb2c10c1dda35a323bc087dc4ec07a4.pdf 17:25 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: http://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/20155/1/getPDF2.pdf 17:25 -!- augur [~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25 < ThomasEgi> nmz787, might be worth a try 17:25 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4180ba20e49415be9c124b39e06ce85.pdf 17:26 < nmz787> since the material is molyb 17:26 < nmz787> i figure it needs a piece of steel/iron below it 17:26 < nmz787> since the gauge mentions a minimum piece thickness 17:27 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: do you understand the probe sizes listed here? 17:27 < ThomasEgi> listed where? 17:27 < ThomasEgi> it needs something electrically conductive. as eddy currents only appear there. 17:27 < nmz787> http://www.verniersales.com/Probe%20Catolog.pdf 17:27 < ThomasEgi> should work with molyb tho. 17:28 < nmz787> from alibaba 'Min. sample thickness: 0.3mm' 17:28 < nmz787> so if i'm looking at a molyb sample that is 25 microns thick, seems like i need to add some really flat metal below it 17:28 < nmz787> so the molyb acts as a non-ferrous 'coating' 17:29 < ThomasEgi> you may want to email the company producing that stuff 17:29 < ThomasEgi> they know a lot more about their product than i do 17:29 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: this was helpful, but I can't digest the simple version of this all exactly http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/EddyCurrents/Applications/thicknessmeasurements2.htm 17:30 < ThomasEgi> especially for such a special case. 17:30 < nmz787> so is this like magnetic triangulation? 17:33 < ThomasEgi> it's ways past 2am for me.. don't ask me stuff i never worked with at this time plz 17:33 < nmz787> ahh, sorry, not past dinnertime here 17:33 < juri_> nmz: i heard something interesting that might apply.. 17:34 < juri_> there is a ion drive that a hacker i know is in the process of testing. 17:34 < juri_> they're sputtering gold at high rates of speed.. 17:34 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:35 < juri_> and, a by-product of their testing is a monomolecular sheet of gold on the target side of the vacuum chamber. 17:36 < nmz787> juri_: cool, i think the lab i'm working with here has a gold sputterrer, since that's often a step for rendering (non-conductive I think) materials visible with e-beams 17:36 < nmz787> i dunno if it's the same exactly 17:36 < nmz787> but it might be 17:37 < nmz787> basically a vacuum chamber with parallel electrodes, one being a gold flat/coin 17:37 < nmz787> and you put the material to be coated between the plates, pull decent vacuum, then apply high voltage 17:38 < juri_> cute. 17:38 < juri_> sounds like it could be the solution to your problem. 17:41 < ThomasEgi> nmz787, you have a cold sputter nearby? 17:42 < ThomasEgi> anyway. anothertime. i'll get some rest 17:44 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44 < nmz787> juri_: solution how? 17:45 < juri_> a really thin layer of metal? 17:51 < nmz787> juri_: i need to sense the thickness of a thin layer of molybdenum 18:21 < juri_> resistance? 18:27 < nmz787> juri_: this looks like something i might be able to prototype 18:27 < nmz787> http://archives.sensorsmag.com/articles/0998/edd0998/index.htm 18:56 < juri_> ooo. i've got something new on my reading list. 19:06 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:28 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:32 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- strages_1hop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:33 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:41 -!- strages_1hop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:42 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:28 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44 -!- yash [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:28 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:28 < superkuh> kanzure, I'm about to try that xml gold BTC->debit card company you linked me to. Was that just a random link or had you heard good things? 22:31 < kanzure> i heard one good thing once, but i don't know anyone who has used it. 22:32 < superkuh> Alright. I'll see how it goes. 22:36 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 22:39 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:40 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:08 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=5fbeedd7 Bryan Bishop: remove extra periods from filenames 23:29 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 23:29 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-10 07:29:22) 23:35 -!- yash [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40 < kanzure> hmm 23:40 < kanzure> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=filetype%3Apdf+"Google+Indexer"+-site%3Aama-assn.org 23:40 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 < strangewarp> http://www.dvice.com/2013-2-8/china-claims-successful-test-microwave-relativity-engine - Any opinions on this? I know it's iffy, but I want to know whether it's potentially plausible or an obvious hoax, and the only person I've shown the link to couldn't make it past "China" without giving me the internet equivalent of a pat on the head and a lollipop. 23:45 < cpopell> anyone here played with dimethyl ketones in home 3d printing? 23:45 < kanzure> wow this is insane, this journal shows you ads before loading an article: http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=567961 23:45 < cpopell> *For surface finishes. 23:45 < kanzure> "AdBlock Academic Edition" fuck --- Log closed Sun Feb 10 00:00:56 2013