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00:02 < cpopell> kanzure
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00:10 <@kanzure> cpopell: yes?
00:10 < cpopell> do you have any commentary on andrew herr?
00:11 <@kanzure> no
00:11 < cpopell> k
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00:13 <@kanzure> tell him to stop using drupal if he wants to pretend to be about security
00:13 <@kanzure> "The file upload feature in Drupal 6.x before 6.27 and 7.x before 7.18 allows remote authenticated users to bypass the protection mechanism and execute arbitrary PHP code via a null byte in a file name."
00:13 <@kanzure> http://www.cnas.org/CHANGELOG.txt he's running an old version
00:13 <@kanzure> i guess you have to be logged in for that to work
00:19 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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01:17 < nmz787> yo
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01:49 <@kanzure> 64bit firefox (waterfox) might be better at handling a high number of tabs
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05:23 < eudoxia> kanu
05:24 < eudoxia> kanzure*, how do you even get a null in a filename
05:25 < eudoxia> i don't think ext4 allows for \0 or the forward slash /
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11:10 <@kanzure> eudoxia: you spoof the request
11:17 < superkuh> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/339/6124/1202.full
11:17 < paperbot> error: HTTP 300 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Caffeine%20in%20Floral%20Nectar%20Enhances%20a%20Pollinator%27s%20Memory%20of%20Reward.pdf
11:17 < ParahSail1n> thats cool
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12:24 < rigel> anyone got access to the journal Autoimmunity Reviews?
12:24 <@kanzure> maybe. link to an article you need.
12:25 < rigel> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21964164
12:25 < rigel> also http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22833322
12:25 <@kanzure> no i mean on the actual journal's site
12:25 <@kanzure> pubmed links are useless unless they are pubmedcentral.gov links
12:26 < rigel> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568997211002011
12:26 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568997211002011
12:26 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/New%20hope%20for%20type%202%20diabetics%3A%20Targeting%20insulin%20resistance%20through%20the%20immune%20modulation%20of%20stem%20cells.txt
12:26 < yashgaroth> yeah I don't have access through pdx
12:26 <@kanzure> sucks to be you
12:26 < rigel> NCNM has it
12:27 < rigel> but ILL takes days
12:53 < nsh> what's immune modulation?
12:54 < yashgaroth> usually means suppressing the immune system when it's attacking something it shouldn't
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14:30 < klafka> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00259-010-1686-8
14:30 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Radiosynthesis%20and%20in%20vivo%20evaluation%20of%20a%20series%20of%20substituted%2011C-phenethylamines%20as%205-HT2A%20agonist%20PET%20tracers.pdf
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14:42 < klafka> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299999005385
14:42 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Inhibition%20of%20plasma%20membrane%20monoamine%20transporters%20by%20-ketoamphetamines.pdf
14:43 < klafka> why is it 404'ing on your servers kanzure ? :(
14:46 < klafka> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-4159.2011.07632.x/full
14:46 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9276ddd0a17ed29e7300db40eafe1b9e.txt
14:46 < klafka> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-4159.2011.07632.x/
14:46 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1d1e4a69ea0bc26d6f994875f0b430ac.txt
14:47 < klafka> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/000689939291298S
14:47 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evaluation%20of%20the%20neurotoxicity%20of%20.pdf
14:54 <@kanzure> klafka: because it thinks that unicode/utf-8 is broken.
14:54 <@kanzure> klafka: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Inhibition%20of%20plasma%20membrane%20monoamine%20transporters%20by%20%ce%b2-ketoamphetamines.pdf
14:54 < klafka> aaah
14:54 < klafka> ta
14:54 <@kanzure> klafka: feel free to submit a bug fix, https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
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21:00 <@kanzure> "In the public/unclassified world, Flylogic (Chris Tarnovsky)has it down to about 3-6h to extract a key from a moderately protected device (TPM; generally FIPS 140-2 level 3 (physical), using about $1mm in equipment and one guy. This is after years of developing expertise in general, and spending maybe 2-3 months part-time attacking a single model of chip (although within a family, it looks like new models are usually quite similar in layout ...
21:00 <@kanzure> ... and protection mechanisms)."
21:01 < nsh> $1mm?
21:02 <@kanzure> some jerks spell million as "mm"
21:03 < nsh> dicks
21:03 < brownies> but they are weird.
21:03 < nsh> that's a lot of money for a side-channel attack
21:03 < nsh> i struggle to imagine how you'd spent a million
21:03 < nsh> can you just keep throwing money at spectroscopes indefinitely?
21:04 <@kanzure> i assume that chris is not spending a million dollars himself
21:04 < nsh> source of quote?
21:04 <@kanzure> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5342147
21:04 < nsh> ty
21:05 <@kanzure> rdl, some dude who worked with steve mann
21:05 < nsh> not sure who steve mann is either, i'm afraid
21:05 < nsh> looks like a good thread
21:06 < nsh> i wonder if you could take a million chips
21:06 < nsh> and some system that uses lasers to fuck up components selectively (and ideally nondestructively)
21:06 < nsh> and then just brute-force it
21:07 < nsh> or precise magnetic fields that stop electron/hole propagation at a specific point
21:07 <@kanzure> or you can look at my comment in that thread. seems simpler to do that instead of millions of lasers.
21:07 <@kanzure> also http://www.chipworks.com/ seems neat.
21:07  * nsh looks
21:08 <@kanzure> http://degate.org/
21:08 <@kanzure> https://github.com/nitram2342/degate
21:08 <@kanzure> "Degate is a software for semi-automatic VLSI reverse engineering of digital logic
21:08 <@kanzure> in chips."
21:08 <@kanzure> "Degate helps you to explore layered images from ICs. It matches standard cells on the imagery given by graphical templates and to some degree degate matches vias and wires. Degate assists you in tracing circuit paths and in reconstructing the net list."
21:09 < nsh> i was speculating under the assumption that you can't see the schematic data with enough resolution
21:09 < nsh> or something
21:09 <@kanzure> nah you definitely can
21:09 <@kanzure> you just have to break things
21:10  * nsh nods
21:11 < nsh> haven't seen "unixoid" for a while, if ever
21:11 < nsh> .gc unixoid
21:11 < yoleaux> 32,600 (site), 2,410 (api)
21:11 < nsh> (standard in german, it seems)
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23:01 < nsh> paperbot, www.springerlink.com/index/R20G87152254V143.pdf
23:01 < nsh> paperbot, http://www.springerlink.com/index/R20G87152254V143.pdf
23:01 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/451bd7b93489ca402babb4da7939f3d9.txt
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