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00:38 < strangewarp> hmm
00:38 < strangewarp> So this guy I was talking about a couple weeks ago has now been profiled by Vice
00:38 < strangewarp> http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/rob-rhinehart-no-longer-requires-food
00:41 < strangewarp> The comments on everything related to him are still completely stupid, because regular people still don't have transhumanism as a distinct concept
00:41 < strangewarp> I'm probably going to try out a Soylent regimen in a few months
00:43 < sylph_mako> badassed
00:44 < kanzure> i don't think the comments are stupid, a lot of people are expressing genuine interest in whether or not we know enough about food and nutrition: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5369778
00:46 < kanzure> "I've been researching nutrition for 5 years and read hundreds of papers on PubMed and, involved with QS (quantified self) and life extension movements, track my bloodwork in Google Spreadsheets etc."
00:46 < kanzure> 100s of papers.. that's pathetic for 5 years. what the fuck is wrong with people.
00:48 < strangewarp> Ah, I was talking about the naive comments. The ycombinator comments are interesting...
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00:50 < strangewarp> Seeing some precautionary principle in that thread, though.
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00:57 < strangewarp> Once Colorado gets weedshops, I'm going to see how sativa shatter oil works for me. Apparently, for some folks, that style of cannabis product is as effective for productivity as Adderall.
01:00 < nsh> shatter oil?
01:01 < strangewarp> also known as wax, or dabbing. An ultra-concentrated form of cannabis that's moked in a somewhat different way.
01:01 < strangewarp> *smoked
01:01 < kanzure> how do you smoke wax? just burn it?
01:02 < nsh> i suppose you impregnate some medium with it
01:02 < strangewarp> You put a small piece of it onto a superheated nail in a certain kind of pipe, and take it all in one breath.
01:02 < strangewarp> I haven't done it myself yet, so my knowledge is only second-hand.
01:03  * nsh nods
01:06 < strangewarp> From what I hear, if you want productivity, you'll want a sativa-based wax, with a THC:cannabinol ratio of >20 : <1. Or else it will just get you high like regular stuff.
01:09 < strangewarp> Note: For a plurality of people who try sativa stuff, it just makes them really paranoid. Others get productive with it though, which is why I'm interested in trying it.
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01:13 < strangewarp> Wax is getting kind of bad PR, since the extraction process requires butane, and a couple stoners have burned themselves by doing it wrong.. so I'm hoping the legislative committee figuring out Colorado's weedlaws doesn't single it out as something bad. That would be counterproductive anyway, since stopping weedshops from selling shatter oil would just prompt more hippies to blow themselves
01:13 < strangewarp> up anyway.
01:14 < strangewarp> (The butane is all removed before the product is finished and ready to smoke, to clarify)
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01:34 <@fenn> why not just vacuum distill it
01:35 <@fenn> you could use a glass fractionation column if you are trying to purify out the THC
01:36 <@fenn> or just get a prescription for ritalin
01:36 < strangewarp> hmm.. I'll google on that subject to see whether anyone's brought it up.. I don't know enough chemistry to speak on it myself
01:41 < strangewarp> Hm, some weed people see to be talking about vacuum distillation, but they seem hesitant to say what they'd be using it for, for obvious reasons. I'm an outsider to that community so I can't say for certain, but I think they use that process to make plain hash oil, which is only about 1/2 to 2/3 as potent as shatter oil, and can't be smoked as easily (I think).
01:42 < strangewarp> *seem to be
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06:37 < eleitl_> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/001448869090137H
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06:37 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Cryopreservation%20of%20human%20brain%20tissue.pdf
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07:14 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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07:37 < chido> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23448668
07:37 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8689e3f4b9a647d22b903e9c5fc1a2ed.txt
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08:56 < archels> hmz. any tips on extracing (x,y) data from a scanned-in image?
08:57 < ParahSailin> like intensity of pixel x,y in the r, g and b domain?
08:59 < eleitl_> python image library something?
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08:59 < archels> http://turingbirds.com/temp/dataconv.png
09:00 < ParahSailin> archels: oh
09:01 < eleitl> that shit is overlapping. you'll probably to mantually digitize it.
09:01 < archels> eleitl: I'm okay with clicking once on each data point
09:02 < archels> but I need some sort of program which gives me an (x,y) value for each click
09:02 < eleitl> oh, so you need a program with XY crosshairs
09:02 < archels> yup
09:02 < archels> maybe project it behind a log-log plot in MATLAB with the axes set up right
09:03 < archels> this being loglog does not make things easier :(
09:04 < eleitl> indeed
09:04 < ParahSailin> archels: open a paint window, turn the transparency to 50%, put the window over image to trace
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09:07 < eudoxia> archels: you could set a pixel to red or some color with Paint
09:07 < eudoxia> and then extract the coordinates for all red pixels
09:09 < archels> hmm. x_real = 10^(x_pixel / constant)
09:09 < archels> that could work
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09:17 < ParahSailin> is the person who created that chart alive?
09:18 < archels> haha, I don't know. You propose I just ask him?
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09:22 < ParahSailin> yes
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11:41 < nmz787> underscor was from rit
11:41 < nmz787> huh
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12:18 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cber.19090420160/pdf
12:18 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/962685d182ca60ec44aa09a0b38565fc.txt
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12:43 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adsc.200800667/pdf
12:44 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/59167d1f8c694956bd64d35e49247512.txt
12:44 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01932691003656938
12:44 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/44c132bff647d85bf12149c4566a19d3.txt
12:46 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?paper=CH9750381
12:46 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Dihalocarbene%20insertions%20into%20carbon-hydrogen%20bonds%20of%20hydrocarbons%20and%20ethers.pdf
12:47 < DonnchaC> Great, this is a wonderful tool. Thank you!
12:48 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=CH9750381.pdf
12:48 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1cf3a02ddf1a80c6cfbbc35e9613d7e1.txt
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13:14 < kanzure> DonnchaC: hello
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13:27 < kanzure> "We would like to get a wiki page started for East Bay DIYbio. Does anyone have experience setting up MediaWiki? There are other options but MediaWiki seems to be our best.  Any volunteers to take this on would be much appreciated"
13:27 < kanzure> "I've gone ahead and setup a free MediaWiki instance on Heroku: https://eastbay-diybio.herokuapp.com. Feel free to create an account."
13:27 < kanzure> aaaahhhhh. :(
13:27 < kanzure> https://eastbay-diybio.herokuapp.com/
13:27 < kanzure> http://eastbaydiybio.org/
13:29 < kanzure> http://www.meetup.com/DIYBio_PDX/
13:31 < klafka> ??
13:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=dbbf579f Bryan Bishop: another portland person
13:31 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=0d15dc17 Bryan Bishop: link to csv of genetic modification ideas
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15:39 < kanzure> https://www.microryza.com/projects/seattle-biohacker-space
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18:48 < kanzure> ah self-replication patents
18:48 < kanzure> freitas should get on that train before it leaves
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18:49 < kanzure> "The roundup ready soybean is also just about out of patent. (I think it has another 6 months or so.)"
18:50 < kanzure> "If their crops are producing unlicensed copies of themselves, shouldn't Monsanto be suing the crops?" if only
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18:59 < ra> kanzure: are you talking about the cross pollination of the patented crops? i think they are. i think Monsanto is suing or threatening to sue everyone :)
19:07 < kanzure> ok?
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19:48 < kanzure> http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2013/03/the-first-open-source-hardware-documentation-jam-new-york-city
20:06 < kanzure> oh man, "jobinterviewquicksort" http://xkcd.com/1185/
20:16 < kanzure> > Do we have data (or estimates) on the ratio of enthusiast biohackers to
20:16 < kanzure> > industry and also academia biohackers?
20:16 < kanzure> what is an "academia biohacker". :(
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21:58 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7440/full/495172a.html
21:58 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evolutionary%20biology%3A%20Twisting%20the%20tale%20of%20human%20evolution.pdf
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23:41 < nmz787> is there anthing like startup chile, but in russia?
23:42 < kanzure> rusnano if you have an "in"
23:42 < kanzure> but they only play high stakes, no "give us your meek" crap goes into rusnano as far as i can tell
23:42 < kanzure> not really an incubator, probably not what you are looking for.
23:43 < nmz787> interesting though
23:43 < nmz787> good to know if i ever get past this stage
23:44 < nmz787> i fond that i already have a blueberry bush planted near my driveway
23:44 < nmz787> i bought another one yesterday
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