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05:41 < archels> so, how much for one of these Nanoscribe 3D printers?
05:43 < eleitl> good question
05:44 < eleitl> not that you can do a lot with these
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09:07 < klafka> pydata conference!
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10:58 < kanzure> "It's time for round two of the PCR Hackathon!  Last time we built up the basic hardware+software for a light-bulb PCR machine, now its time to refine it!  If we get ambitious, some people could also try to build a dry heating block or a "smart" incubator."
10:58 < kanzure> "Just like last time, we will be starting at noon and going until people get tired.  The difference is that we will be doing this on a Sunday (march 24th).  Again, we will have taq and DNA on hand to test our machines out, but we need you to bring power supplies/temperature sensors/arduinos.  Registration is free but please RSVP here- it helps us know what to expect."
10:58 < kanzure> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1K4kIBFQDv3Av75TuPumYAmhP4VbmsRIospY2cR7T5E4/viewform
11:00 < kanzure> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13361-010-0005-8
11:00 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/First%20Distance-of-Flight%20Instrument%3A%20Opening%20a%20New%20Paradigm%20in%20Mass%20Spectrometry.pdf
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11:17 < bkero> kanzure: http://t.co/9pLd15FLXd
11:17 < bkero> Python library for your debugging
11:17 < kanzure> i just sent an email to him complaining about the remote debugging protocol actually
11:18 < kanzure> perhaps i should be filing my complaints with you instead
11:18 < bkero> email jimb@mozilla
11:18 < bkero> .com
11:18 < bkero> He's one of the ones who originally wrote it.
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12:12 < bkero> kanzure: seriously, I just asked jimb@mozilla.com and he WANTS to hear from you
12:13 < kanzure> i have like 200 other pieces of hate mail to write
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12:42 < kanzure> "The open nature of the CircuitLab tool has helped it gain lots of early traction with academics and institutions, since it’s a free, accessible standard platform that teachers can use to help electrical engineering students get simulating without delay"
12:43 < kanzure> "standard platform"... uhh. no.
12:43 < kanzure> "and without having to worry about compatibility or platform lock-in." uhh..... what?
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13:03 < cpopell> yashgaroth,  you around?
13:04 < cpopell> damnit, nope
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13:50 < kanzure> i am getting spam for "sugarcane combine harvest machine". "Now, if you buy it now, we can give you biggest discount, unit price: 53,000USD."
13:52 < chris_99> that sounds pretty reasonable heh
14:32 < kanzure> "Firefox exposes a tcp-based protocol (not enabled by default. The user will need to go to a special tool to start the server). It will expose feature like adding break points, exploring the DOM and the CSS rules, and editing content (CSS/HTML/JS)."
14:48 < kanzure> bkero: ok email sent
14:48 < bkero> kanzure: sweet, thanks
14:48 < kanzure> i assume you are bkero@mozilla.com
14:48 < bkero> kanzure: cc dcamp@mozilla.com too if you ahven't actuallys ent ;)
14:48 < bkero> Or I will, and yes
14:48 < kanzure> better you do it.. email sent.
14:50 < bkero> Forwarded. dcamp is the lead of Developer Tools team at moz.
14:50 < bkero> and sits right next to me.
14:50 < kanzure> eww non-remote team.
14:51 < bkero> 'eh?
14:51 < bkero> No, they're both remote
14:51 < bkero> here in Portland
14:51 < kanzure> but they sit right next to you?
14:51 < bkero> Jim wasn't on his team until today, he was on the JS fence, heh.
14:52 < klafka> are there a lot of mozilla people in pdx?
14:52 < bkero> We have space in a coworking space. It's totally optional.
14:52 < bkero> There are about 25
14:52 < klafka> oh cool
14:53 < kanzure> the most confusing thing is that https://wiki.mozilla.org/Remote_Debugging_Protocol doesn't seem to be implemented.. or maybe it is??
14:54 < kanzure> and things like "TODO: DOM node inspection, highlighting" terrify me. how can DOM node inspection not be implemented! that's critical to debugging.
14:55 < kanzure> oh jimb was the last person to edit this document. hrmm... in january.
14:55 < bkero> It helps to try aurora/nightly sometimes
14:55 < kanzure> do you have any links to where this is implemented in the source tree? or maybe there's some documentation about which port this is accessible on?
14:55 < kanzure> i guess i could just go look to see if jimb has any commits in the tree, and just follow those to see.
14:56 < kanzure> i do see some tests here http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-aurora/source/js/src/jit-test/tests/debug/
14:57 < kanzure> oh that's jit stuff
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14:59 < salamandyr> i dont suppose anyone has access to this article?  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6660010
15:00 < kanzure> too old, you'll have to get it by interlibrary loan.
15:00 < salamandyr> yeah that's what i'm thinking.. my university doesnt have it in hardcopy eihter
15:00 < salamandyr> though there is a pdf purchase available from the publisher
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15:01 < Mokstar> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6660010
15:01 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d745145920b6fd18d81c4a8f3972e796.txt
15:01 < kanzure> pubmed doesn't store pdfs
15:01 < kanzure> only pubmedcentral.gov stores pdfs
15:02 < Mokstar> hmm
15:03 < salamandyr> it's at pubget http://pubget.com/paper/6660010/Nootropic_drugs_and_aging
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15:20 < kanzure> ntr0p3: hello
15:26 < klafka> fun thing to do at conference workshops - try and see what everyone is doing on their laptop screens
15:28 < ntr0p3> kanzure: howdy
15:57 < kanzure> paperbot: http://apsychoserver.psych.arizona.edu/JJBAReprints/PSYC621/Johnson%20Current%20Directions%20Psych%20Science%202010%20(G%20and%20E%20in%20IQ).pdf
15:57 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ce42bf72b4663ee4ed53ddcbd4217381.pdf
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16:44 < bkero> kanzure: he says that dom node inspection and highlighting are done, he can update the wiki, he's gtfoing home now
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16:54 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/102/44/15971.full
16:54 < paperbot> error: HTTP 300 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Combining%20two%20genomes%20in%20one%20cell%3A%20Stable%20cloning%20of%20the%20Synechocystis%20PCC6803%20genome%20in%20the%20Bacillus%20subtilis%20168%20genome.pdf
16:54 < kanzure> bkero: do you know where in the source tree i can find those things?
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16:55 < bkero> kanzure: Unsure, in the released version that contained the remote protocol. He also says that you can tell it to listen on a tcp port and just netcat in.
16:55 < bkero> and send events back and forth with json
16:56 < kanzure> i haven't been able to figure out what port that is yet
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17:11 < bkero> you can set it in about:config
17:11 < bkero> he sez
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17:13 < kanzure> doh
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17:26 < bkero> :)
17:26 < bkero> He says the protocol is just sending an integer for the length of the json packet, then (maybe sending a colon first), then sending the json packet
17:27 < kanzure> i see
17:27 < kanzure> do i have to authenticate, or enable or something?
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17:48 < bkero> I don't know
17:49 < bkero> kanzure: https://github.com/jorendorff/jorendb
17:50 < kanzure> i don't want the in-browser shell :(
17:50 < kanzure> i hate that concept
17:50 < kanzure> this seems to be for the in-browser shell, right?
17:50 < kanzure> "shell-js programs"
17:53  * bkero isn't sure
17:54 < bkero> devtools.debugger.report-port?
17:54 < bkero> err, remote-port
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19:01 < Juul> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022283670900513
19:01 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Calcium-dependent%20bacteriophage%20DNA%20infection%20.txt
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20:56 < superkuh> A webgl visualization of a fmri cortical map study done to try to tag blood flow change activity with the wordnet hierarchy: http://gallantlab.org/semanticmovies/
20:57 < superkuh> I encountered it when reading the summary of the paper at http://xcorr.net/2013/01/24/categories/
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21:24 <@fenn> nanoscribe is doing some very cool stuff with two photon polymerization: http://www.nanoscribe.de/en/applications
21:24 <@fenn> i especially like the diffractive 2d pillar array for color images (holograms?)
21:25 <@fenn> though i suppose you don't need a true 3d system for that
21:30 <@fenn> gee it would be nice if these were in the man page for google chrome http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/
21:32 < kanzure> --nacl-gdb would've been handy forever ago
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