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00:44 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.cell.com/cell-stem-cell/abstract/S1934-5909(13)00007-6
00:44 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2434.html
00:44 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Forebrain%20Engraftment%20by%20Human%20Glial%20Progenitor%20Cells%20Enhances%20Synaptic%20Plasticity%20and%20Learning%20in%20Adult%20Mice.pdf
00:44 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Whole-brain%20functional%20imaging%20at%20cellular%20resolution%20using%20light-sheet%20microscopy.pdf
00:44 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/srep/2013/130228/srep01319/full/srep01319.html
00:44 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Brain-to-Brain%20Interface%20for%20Real-Time%20Sharing%20of%20Sensorimotor%20Information.pdf
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02:38 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/fig_tab/nmeth.2434_SV4.html
02:38 < kanzure> Video 4: Whole-brain imaging of neuronal activity (visualization B, projections)
02:38 < kanzure> "Dorsal, lateral and frontal maximum-intensity projections of whole-brain, neuron-level functional activity, reported by the genetically encoded calcium indicator GCaMP5G in an elavl3:GCaMP5G fish, superimposed on maximum-intensity projections of the reference anatomy (gray). Supplementary Videos 2–6 show different visualizations of the same whole-brain recording. To reduce the size, we downsampled microscopy images by a factor of 4. ...
02:39 < kanzure> ... Detection objective: Nikon CFI75 LWD 16×/0.80 W."
02:39 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nmeth.2434-sv4.avi
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06:38 <@fenn> very nice fish brain video
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08:55 < ParahSailin> anyone have a good lab robot?
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10:26 < archels> http://www.kurzweilai.net/under-the-skin-a-tiny-blood-testing-laboratory
10:27 < EnLilaSko> Anyone got a review on tDCS which also explains how it works (Mechanism of action)?
10:27 < EnLilaSko> Like this one, but for tDCS - http://physrev.physiology.org/content/84/1/87.long
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10:51 < kanzure> EnLilaSko: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/tdcs/
10:51 < kanzure> EnLilaSko: but i recommend you focus on ultrasound.
10:51 < EnLilaSko> Ultrasound?
10:51 < EnLilaSko> But this is for a school work, so gonna read up a bit on it
10:53 < cpopell> Why ultrasound, kanzure ?
10:54 < kanzure> cpopell: because tdcs is not specific enough
10:54 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.frontiersin.org/Neuroinformatics/10.3389/fninf.2013.00004/abstract
10:54 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Accelerating%20compartmental%20modeling%20on%20a%20graphical%20processing%20unit.pdf
10:56 < cpopell> Interesting
10:58 < EnLilaSko> kanzure: Possible to build your own ultrasound device as with tDCS? (Doubt it)
10:59 < kanzure> why do you doubt it?
10:59 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/
10:59 < chris_99> ...or TMS (which is far cooler looking ;)
10:59 < xmj> kanzure: did you see my privmsgs?
11:00 < EnLilaSko> I just did kanzure, no idea why
11:00 < kanzure> xmj: no, but i have replied now.
11:03 < kanzure> chris_99: no, magnetic stimulation is even less specific.
11:04 < chris_99> hmm, how effective is ultrasound stimulation though
11:04 < kanzure> 1mm^2 resolution so far
11:05 < chris_99> can it reach as deep?
11:05 < kanzure> deeper.
11:15 < chris_99> with TMS i remember an experiment where they caused someone to stutter
11:15 < chris_99> have they done similar stuff with ultrasound
11:22 < kanzure> they've caused a mouse to stutter, does that count?
11:22 < kanzure> s/stutter/twitch/
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11:23 < kanzure> also they melted human brain tumors
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11:47 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7090928
11:47 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2a7c31a26f6a1b12c34bde1578d73d0.txt
11:48 < chris_99> impressive kanzure melting brain tumors that is
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12:20 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: http://jme.bmj.com/content/35/10/611.long
12:20 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c63bb4a0ba01f3d87954c5aaf92b8f99.txt
12:21 < kanzure> hmm.
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12:22 < xmj> Cosmetic Neurology, that's one term I havne't yet come across.
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12:47 < kanzure> appamatto: hello
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12:55 < archels> kanzure: sorry, no access either
12:57 < kanzure> archels: hm
12:57 < kanzure> ?
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13:01 < archels> oh sorry, you weren't the one requesting the paper
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14:33 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: http://www.cgfr.co.uk/article/S1359-6101%2898%2900003-3/abstract
14:33 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3aa9fdcfb5cf2caa308ece4020b2e48f.txt
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15:06 < nmz787> sup
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15:12 < kanzure> "Second, the brand (TED) has been diluted to the point that it's tough to know whether or not a talk is worth investing the time. There are videos on how to tie your shoe.. I mean, come on."
15:12 < kanzure> ha ha
15:14 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tom6_ceTu9s "The Onion does a really good series called "Onion Talks" that satirizes the vapidness of TED talks. They also capture the audiences' "inspired" reactions pretty well."
15:14 < cpopell> Amusingly, someone I saw on twitter was criticizing ted for shutting down people who wanted to talk about auras, etc.
15:14 < cpopell> 'TED is too mainstream, etc.'
15:17 < klafka> LOL yeah a lot of people bitched about that graham hancock thing
15:17 < cpopell> yeah, fuck that.
15:17 < kanzure> this is a pretty good parody of ted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO0TUI9r-So
15:18 < cpopell> My issues with TED is the dilution via TEDx
15:18 < cpopell> of which I've seen some incredibly horrendous non-scientific stuff
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15:24 < nmz787> so what's to do in SF area?
15:25 < kanzure> there's a meeting at east bay diybio about something
15:25 < kanzure> delinquentme is trying to close some weird contract with jbei
15:26 < kanzure> i think you should go find the science exchange people and max from transcriptic
15:29 < nmz787> what would i talk to max about
15:29 < nmz787> blab about my synthesis ideas?
15:29 < nmz787> I never heard back fom Joe Kaufman
15:29 < nmz787> dunno if his email is down or what
15:30 < nmz787> i didn't get a return to sender error email
15:30 < kanzure> joe kaufman is at 408-964-0015
15:30 < kanzure> you would ask max for a tour and play with his equipment, or talk about hardware things. one of his recent problems is stacking equipment to optimize space.
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15:31 < kanzure> science exchange is worth talking with because they have an interesting view on science as a business, and probably some interesting software things happening.
15:32 < nmz787> have max's info?
15:34 < kanzure> max hodak <maxhodak@gmail.com>
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15:46 < nmz787> cool heard back from max
15:48 < kanzure> what'd he say?
15:50 < nmz787> show up tomorrow at 1
15:50 < kanzure> where is he at?
15:50 < nmz787> menlo park
15:58 < nmz787> who's at sci exchange that i should contact?
15:59 < kanzure> carl seems to like elizabeth, she seems responsive
15:59 < kanzure> john schloendorn has openbiotech.com somewhere in the sf area, you could go hang out with him i bet
16:08 < nmz787> how the hell do i use twitter to bug her?
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16:09 < nmz787> looks like her linkedin says she teaches in miami presently
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16:15 < nmz787> what kind of tests would a small centrifuge be good for that doesn't exist?
16:19 < kanzure> i suggest using email
16:23 < kanzure> elizabeth iorns <elizabeth@scienceexchange.com>
16:24 < kanzure> i thought they were in sf but i might be wrong
16:24 < kanzure> you could also stop by lumnos labs, 3scan, thiel foundation, and i think sens has an office somewhere..
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16:26 < nmz787> nah Livermore
16:26 < nmz787> a bit of a drive
16:27 < klafka> what's in menlo park?
16:27 < klafka> other than pacbio?
16:27 < nmz787> apparently transcriptic
16:29 < klafka> i wonder when they say ' "ML-like"' if they mean machine learning or ML as in ML/CAML/OCAML
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17:02 < jrayhawk> The ML in "ML-like" means ML-the-programming-language
17:02 < jrayhawk> It's common in CS circles.
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17:36 < ntr0p3> Viper168: you'll need a replacement friend soon
17:36 < ntr0p3> err, wrong window
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17:56 < kanzure> bkero: is that the same guy who does requirejs stuff for mozilla?
17:56 < kanzure> oh oops. that's burke.
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18:09 < bkero> kanzure: heh
18:11 < kanzure> i think volo looks neat, even possibly useful
18:11 < kanzure> at least compared to yeoman..
18:12 < kanzure> although it seems to skip bower
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18:35 < kanzure> yashgaroth: sup
18:35 < yashgaroth> hey
18:37 < nmz787> talking with joe on the phone
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19:47 < superkuh> paperbot: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780080552323604131
19:47 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Nav1.7%20Voltage%20-%20Gated%20Sodium%20Channel.txt
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20:12 < superkuh> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627313002262
20:12 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Generating%20Waves%20in%20Corticothalamocortical%20Networks.txt
20:13 < superkuh> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=272195&_user=1694017&_pii=S0896627313002262&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=2013--20&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLbVlt-zSkzV&pid=1-s2.0-S0896627313002262-main.pdf
20:13 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d5d0dbbe28675b253dbcf463989b4df7.txt
20:13 < nmz787> kanzure: how do you know/know of joe kaufman?
20:13 < kanzure> jojack introduced me to joe kaufman 2012-02-16
20:13 < kanzure> phone call went ok?
20:14 < nmz787> yeah
20:14 < nmz787> gonna try and meetup tomorrow
20:14 < kanzure> anything interesting?
20:14 < nmz787> if he isn't available we'll probably skype tomorrow nigh
20:14 < nmz787> he says he's got some blow-the-seat-off-the-competitors-pants picomole synthesis tech waiting on a patent
20:15 < kanzure> he mentioned that last year
20:15 < ParahSail1n> picomole synthesis?
20:15 < nmz787> wondering how much ideas to splurge
20:15 < nmz787> DNA
20:15 < nmz787> or oligos
20:16 < kanzure> as far as i know, joe is better to talk with when you want to extract information about commercial activities
20:16 < kanzure> so i would recommend sticking to that subject and absorbing as much as possible
20:16 < ParahSail1n> whos joe kaufman?
20:16 < kanzure> just some guy that sells dna synthesizers
20:17 < nmz787> so should i say i have this idea, is it crap, or what?
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20:17 < nmz787> where do i get someone to fund some research?
20:18 < kanzure> he's not going to give you a unique answer to that question
20:18 < kanzure> he can probably give you better answers to questions like how the business of science works
20:18 < kanzure> maybe stuff like where the good deals on machines are, or who all the industry players are, etc.
20:19 < kanzure> he seemed to be very familiar with azco biotech
20:19 < nmz787> yeah
20:19 < nmz787> he mentioned j adams
20:19 < nmz787> trying to figure out how he knew of transcriptic
20:20 < kanzure> transcriptic isn't exactly a secret.. they bulldozed through angel list raising $1.5M and were the poster child for a few weeks.
20:20 < kanzure> (much of which i attribute to max's previous exits)
20:20 < kanzure> (plus, you know, how nice it would be if it worked)
20:21 < nmz787> yeah
20:21 < nmz787> what's he done before?
20:21 < brownies> it is working isn't it?
20:22 < kanzure> brownies: i would say they aren't where they want to be yet as a platform, but yes they are selling services.
20:22 < kanzure> i forget what max did previously. brownies weren't you reading about that somewhere?
20:22 < nmz787> he mentioned this company i think http://www.isip.com/Antisense-Technology/Antisense-Drug-Discovery-Platform/Medicinal-Chemistry.htm
20:22 < nmz787> he said something that sounded like isis
20:22 < nmz787> not sure if that's the right spelling
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20:27 < nmz787> "DNA synthesis is a well developed art and science.
20:27 < nmz787> Folks interested in dramatically reducing the cost believe the way to do so is to reduce the volume of reagents.
20:27 < nmz787> Some people believe microfludic approaches can work. Well, maybe. Depends on whose approaches."
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20:34 < kanzure> nmz787: scienceexchange is hiring, which is extra incentive to say hi to them anyway https://www.scienceexchange.com/jobs/
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20:55 < kanzure> pycon videos http://pyvideo.org/category/33/pycon-us-2013
20:55 < kanzure> plover claiming 240 wpm http://pyvideo.org/video/1706/plover-thought-to-text-at-240-wpm
20:57 < kanzure> these look ok http://pyvideo.org/video/1699/mobile-application-testing-with-python-and-seleni http://pyvideo.org/video/1690/things-to-make-writing-tests-easier
20:58 < kanzure> there's only 28 videos? was that the total?
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21:22 < kanzure> basic logging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24_4WWkSmNo
21:22 < kanzure> pynes things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJ1Q4GG9jw
21:23 < kanzure> explaining "import" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnxyRuenAg
21:23 < kanzure> jython http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAWM0hALtAg
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21:32 < Juul> basic logging http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1d85CLDOQ
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21:56 < kanzure> oops did i get the link wrong
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23:05 < kanzure> haha https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2011/11/09/dnt-cannot-be-default/
23:05 < kanzure> "Why we won’t enable DNT by default" ahh yes.
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23:32 < xmj> wow, that's even more silly than the notion that any malicious datatracking/harvesting site respects DNT
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