--- Log opened Fri Apr 05 00:00:48 2013
00:01 < kanzure> why is there a vcr/vhs api being implemented in webkit?
00:01 < kanzure> http://darktears.fr/vcr-api/Overview.html
00:01 < kanzure> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2013-April/024355.html
00:06 < kanzure> oh wait april 1st.
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00:41 < eleitl> Rachel is or was gf to Michael Anissimov
00:41 < eleitl> she seems to subscribe to the emo brand of transhumanism
00:42 < eleitl> oh, by the way, what do you think of latest transhumanity.net content.
00:42 < eleitl> Post-Hank.
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01:38 < archels> kanzure: did you see the WebKit.js April 1st prank?
01:39 < archels> http://badassjs.com/post/20294238453/webkit-js-yes-it-has-finally-happened-browser
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02:15 < eleitl> archels, if a thinking person goes to http://transhumanity.net/ what would she think?
02:27 < archels> it seems pretty vapid and makes the topics come across as pseudoscience
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02:33 < archels> I'm sure kanzure would have some very nice things to say about Zero State
02:33 < archels> >:)
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03:02 < eleitl> thanks, archels
03:02 < eleitl> you're more charitable than I would have said it
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04:05 < eleitl> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.201100185/pdf
04:05 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/692c1c6079fc17d0fe2821c2d513bfe3.txt
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04:50 < archels> eleitl: still need that paper?
04:50 < eleitl> yes, that would be very kind
04:50 < archels> http://turingbirds.com/temp/458_ftp.pdf
04:52 < eleitl> Thanks!
04:55 < archels> no prob
04:55 < archels> it is possible to
04:55 < archels> chart a path from virtually any neuron
04:56 < archels> to any other neuron in three synapses.
04:56 < archels> (in C. elegans)
04:56 < eleitl> total connectome has been solved 1982, or so
04:56 < eleitl> but I probably don't understand your question
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04:57 < archels> no I was just quoting from the paper
05:05 < eleitl> Ken Hayworth seems to think that you can reliably infer the property from the neuroanatomy
05:05 < eleitl> I have no idea why he is sure
05:06 < eleitl> I'm thinking he wants that to be true very badly
05:06 < archels> yeah, that isn't going to fly
05:06 < archels> and it's pretty well known that it isn't going to fly, so I don't know why he would suggest otherwise
05:07 < eleitl> I think you need to sample down to submolecular scale, in some locations
05:07 < eleitl> so quite a lot better than these ~8 nm resolution he thinks is enough
05:07 < archels> and map out every single protein?
05:07 < eleitl> archels, can you cite a few examples when shape alone doesn't tell you everything?
05:08 < eleitl> not every single protein, but ability to zoom down to a single protein or residue if it's required
05:08 < eleitl> most of volume will be boring
05:08 < eleitl> but some spots will be very interesting, so need to resolve some features there
05:09 < archels> that sounds way too data-intensive
05:10 < archels> see fig. 3 -- http://turingbirds.com/temp/Interneurons%20of%20the%20Neocortical%20Inhibitory%20System%20-%20Markram.pdf
05:13 < eleitl> thanks!
05:13 < eleitl> data intensive, but you can abstrat at scan stage, so it never leaves the instrument
05:13 < eleitl> plus, this is adaptive resolution, you can stream across most volume without looking too hard
05:15 < eleitl> Dendritic morphology is the most variable feature and
05:15 < eleitl> cannot reliably define the type of interneuron. However,
05:15 < eleitl> the axonal aborization can reveal the anatomical identity
05:15 < eleitl> of an interneuron because interneurons seem to be particularly specialized to target different domains of neurons, different layers of a column and different columns
05:15 < archels> mm, but the point is to derive an expression profile?
05:15 < eleitl> genome expression?
05:15 < archels> protein, genome
05:16 < eleitl> it depends on how much internal state is essential to reproducing the behavior
05:16 < eleitl> e.g., are synapse strenghts encoded in protein modification?
05:17  * eleitl is just an egg, and has no clue
05:17 < archels> no one really has much of clue yet when it comes to those things :)
05:17 < eleitl> ok, so everybody is an egg.
05:18 < eleitl> So little time, so much to learn.
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05:19 < eleitl> I've picked up The Machinery of Life to get a sense of density
05:19 < eleitl> unfortunately, a lot of human imagery is still guesswork
05:20 < eleitl> we need real volumetric destructive scans to look at the real thing
05:23  * archels wonders if you can do spectroscopy with an electron microscope
05:23 < eleitl> holography, maybe
05:24 < eleitl> no need, since you can just do destructive serial scans, and image the surface
05:25 < archels> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_tunneling_spectroscopy
05:25 < eleitl> cryoAFM might work as well
05:26 < eleitl> in any case if it's vitrified it's laying there as a brick
05:26 < archels> yes but it's not going to give up its parameters that easily :)
05:27 < eleitl> in principle you can pull in single proteins, and examine them, if you have to
05:27 < archels> but if you want to get an overview of protein levels in the entire cell, that's a lot of scanning and analysis you have to do
05:27 < archels> whereas a mean-field quantity would suffice
05:28 < eleitl> I don't know which level of detail is required, and there's still considerable uncertainty in future imaging modalities, so I'm kinda agnostic at the moment
05:29 < eleitl> I'd rather try to cryopreserve here and now, and look at imaging methods for small scale connectomics
05:29 < archels> epigenetic profiling is probably the most important thing aside from morphology
05:30 < archels> and that would be rather difficult to do with any EM technology I imagine
05:30 < eleitl> there's no genetic activity on second scale, so I'm thinking the genome state can be modeled quite coarsely, and arguably would not be required in a coarser model
05:32 < archels> well, even cells of the same type can have different expression profiles, strongly affecting their function. So we'd need to profile *every* cell.
05:32 < archels> time is out of the equation once the stuff is fixated, anyway
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05:34 < eleitl> I don't like fixation, I'd prefer as close to native state as possible. Hence, vitrification.
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05:39 < eleitl> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/48.full <-- "A tissue-like printed material"
05:40 < eleitl> if you could deposit a biological system layer by layer, including rewarming infrastructure, then synthetic biology can do a bit more than just making bacteria
05:41 < eleitl> deposit in the vitrified state, then flash-defrozen
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06:17 < ParahSail1n> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6128/48.full
06:18 < paperbot> error: HTTP 300 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Tissue-Like%20Printed%20Material.pdf
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09:04 < eudoxia> >The U.S. Munitions List changes over time. Until 1996–1997, ITAR classified strong cryptography as arms and prohibited their export from the U.S.
09:05 < eudoxia> yes i know i am the last person to hear about this
09:05 < eleitl> yeah, which is why PGP was exported as a hard copy, and then OCRd, purportedly
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09:05 < eleitl> purportedly
09:05 < eudoxia> that's nuts
09:05 < kanzure> eleitl: a certain publisher is sending me hate mail
09:05 < eleitl> eudoxia, had any heavy rain lately, or were you spared?
09:05 < eudoxia> they had OCR before 1997?
09:05 < kanzure> eudoxia: kurzweil did ocr in the 70s. that's his claim to fame.
09:06 < eleitl> who is the nasty person?
09:06 < kanzure> a person at a legal department at institute of physics
09:06 < eudoxia> eleitl: it started to rain just as i was leaving the office :< but at least it wasn't as bad as in argentina
09:06 < eudoxia> kanzure: oh, right, i remember  that now
09:06 < eleitl> what do you intend to do about it?
09:06 < kanzure> complain on irc
09:07 < eleitl> :)
09:07 < eudoxia> eleitl: re kurzweil and re that thing you said here earlier 'pull in single proteins, and examine them, if you have to'
09:07 < eleitl> haters gonna hate
09:07 < eudoxia> do you have that paper you wrote about mnt based uploading?
09:07 < eudoxia> i remember it was mentioned in the kurzweil book
09:07 < eleitl> I have written a paper?
09:07 < eudoxia> 70% sure
09:07 < eleitl> do you have the ref for that?
09:07 < eudoxia> brb
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09:09 < eudoxia> ugh you know that feel when you remember the general concept of a phrase but no specific keywords
09:09 < eudoxia> i need an abstract control+f
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09:12 < eudoxia> meh maybe it was freitas
09:13 < eleitl> probably, since I can't recall authoring something like that
09:16 < kanzure> eleitl: why are you leaving hetzner?
09:16 < eleitl> because they're dicks
09:16 < eleitl> they started charging for IP space for customers who got them with old contracts
09:17 < eleitl> if you have 3x /24 then it's prohibitive even at 1 EUR/month, nevermind promises of up to 5 EUR/month
09:17 < eleitl> but they are dicks in general, don't use them for free speech things
09:18 < eleitl> have you an account with researchgate, kanzure?
09:18 < eleitl> they seem to think I'm not a researcher
09:20 < kanzure> hmmm i don't think i have a researchgate account at the moment
09:20 < kanzure> definitely not, no. sorry.
09:21 < eleitl> thanks
09:23 < kanzure> if anyone wants to be very helpful today, doing this would be nice:
09:23 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/issues/3
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09:27 < kanzure> http://adamcaudill.com/2013/04/04/security-done-wrong-leaky-ftp-server/
09:27 < kanzure> "A few hours ago I received a call from my frequent research partner, Brandon Wilson, about an open FTP server hosted in Taiwan serving up some rather interesting data. Internal emails, various system images (and even the Ghost software!), numerous photos - some personal, some high resolution PCB images, private specification sheets, Excel documents loaded with private information - but that wasn’t the worst."
09:27 < kanzure> "n a folder called code was quite a treasure. The source code for different versions of American Megatrends (AMI) firmware - but there was even a bonus on top of that! They included their private signing key with the code in the ‘Ivy Bridge’ archive."
09:28 < kanzure> oh geeze i forgot about the symantec source leak.
09:29 < eleitl> security is fucked up, film @ 11
09:29 < kanzure> i would totally watch that.
09:29 < eleitl> Blight could 0wn this planet in realtime
09:30 < eudoxia> featuring julian assange as the ghost of claude shannon
09:31 < kanzure> eudoxia: did you ever read julian's emails to extropy-chat?
09:31 < eudoxia> nope
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09:31 < eleitl> he invited me to a secret project once, we know know what the name of the project is
09:32 < eleitl> lucky I didn't particulate, too much airborne feces
09:32 < eudoxia> heh
09:32 < kanzure> yes, let us know how you enjoy those drones coming after you
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09:32 < eleitl> I had quite enough of scrutiny with the Tor exit thing
09:32 < eudoxia> well, look at the bright side
09:33 < eudoxia> if you had, they would revive you from cryo as a kind of cold boot attack
09:34 < eudoxia> wait, that's not how it works
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09:37 < nbentha> howdy
09:37 < eleitl> H7N9 killed 9 so far
09:37 < eleitl> 6, sorry
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09:40 < eudoxia> >The killing of birds at the Huhuai market in Shanghai started Thursday night after the city's agricultural committee ordered it in a notice also posted on its website.
09:40 < eudoxia> well i guess it's something
09:41 < nbentha> did they toss them into the rivers along w/ the hogs?
09:42 < superkuh> http://www.newfluwiki2.com/ is the aggregator I use for flu news.
09:43 < eleitl> desasterbator-rss
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09:45 < eudoxia> >No cases of human-to-human transmission have yet been found, and no infections beyond China.
09:45 < eudoxia> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2013/4/5/reutersworld/1304051006-h7n9-bird-flu-strain-has-worrying-trait&sec=reutersworld
09:45 < eudoxia> t-thanks, virus
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09:53 < eleitl> some krauts seem to think video streaming requires a TV license
09:53 < eleitl> the fools
09:57 < eleitl> ok, off I go. see you.
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10:25 < kanzure> why did marcin write this? http://www.researchnotebook.cc/2013/03/the-significance-of-open-source-hardware/
10:26 < ParahSailin> publish or perish?
10:27 < kanzure> publish, then perish
10:28 < kanzure> http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,196433
10:28 < kanzure> "I have been kindah wanting a 'personal database' that runs on my own computer, basically annoyed with not having the data in digikey and mouser in my computer-readable hands, or that taking notes about them isnt easy enough.. And of course, there wouldnt be much to hold me back sharing those notes, if many people used such a system it could essentially act a bit like a wiki. Point is that that idea overlaps with this."
10:28 < kanzure> oh right, we still have to scrape digikey/mouser/jwhatever
10:28 < kanzure> jamenco?
10:29 < kanzure> it's too bad that octopart doesn't provide downloadable dumps. they recently introduced rate limits to their api.
10:56 < kanzure> hah "All WP and other TinyMCE spellcheckers are silently erroring now. Not cool." (because google took down the spellchecking api)
10:57 < kanzure> eveyone will probably switch to http://api.yandex.ru/speller/
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11:03 < archels> geez kanzure, you should do some search engine optimisation. found you halfway on page #2 for "Bryan Bishop"
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11:04 < kanzure> archels: switch to 100 results per page.
11:09 < kanzure> hah eleitl is the original model m hipster http://diginole.lib.fsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5455&context=etd
11:09 < kanzure> the email this article shows is an old email from eleitl from 2002 talking about his model m keyboard
11:10 < ParahSailin> model m keyboards dont like water
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11:16 < ParahSailin> you think you'd get in trouble hosting hashes and file sizes of papers?
11:16 < kanzure> dunno
11:19 < kanzure> blah people are starting to quote that shitty wikipedia article about biohacking
11:19 < kanzure> http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/buzzwords-of-the-day-biohacking-diybio-and-quantified-self/
11:19 < kanzure> "ranging from Grinders who design and install DIY body-enhancements such as magnetic implants to DIY biologists who conduct at-home gene sequencing."
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11:24 < kanzure> debunking the 10k hours claim http://allaboutwork.org/2012/11/21/malcolm-gladwells-10000-hour-rule-doesnt-add-up/
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11:43 < kanzure> "2013 WebKit contributor's meeting will be held at DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel in San Jose on Thursday, May 2nd and Friday, May 3rd"
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12:04 < brownies> this is just how Gladwell rolls
12:05 < brownies> "anecdote, anecdote, anecdote, broad sweeping generalization about humanity packaged into a sound byte"
12:05 < ParahSailin> _ -> profit
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12:06 < brownies> true.
12:12 <@fenn> but the plural of anecdote is data
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12:23 < kanzure> someone is asking for some papers to be removed
12:23 < kanzure> http://pastebin.com/qxAaBc03
12:28 < superkuh> I'm willing to mirror anything you chose to take down.
12:28 < kanzure> she never sent an explicit list over
12:30 < kanzure> superkuh: have you encountered problems in this department before?
12:30 < kanzure> the last time this happened to me was vince gingery (ugh)
12:30 < superkuh> I've had a few of those. I usually respond with bullshit about users uploading stuff and not being able to track it all. I request specific URLs and then actually remove them because I am a wuss.
12:30 < kanzure> and they give you specific urls?
12:30 < superkuh> Yes.
12:31 < kanzure> based on my logs i see that they partly arrived at my server through searching for the watermark strings
12:31 < superkuh> What's the IP range?
12:31 < superkuh> (so I can pre-ban)
12:31 < kanzure> single ip, 80.254.147.156
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12:32 < kanzure> also ban anyone with this http referer: http://www.copyrightinfringementportal.com/
12:32 < superkuh> Thanks.
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12:35 < superkuh> Hm. I guess I have not received a letter quite like this one. They aren't invoking DMCA?
12:35 < superkuh> (yet)
12:35 < kanzure> i noticed them poking around on my server and i sent an email in anticipation of a DMCA takedown request
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12:42 < brownies> why don't you just turn off google indexing entirely?
12:42 < kanzure> because i use scholar.google.com to search my collection
12:43 < kanzure> but yeah, i've updated robots.txt :(
12:43 < brownies> rofl
12:45 < superkuh> For nginx I: if ($http_referer ~* (PaperLiBot|facebookexternalhit|FairShare|Lightspeedsystems|ZmEu|BPImageWalker|360spider)) {
12:45 < kanzure> paperlibot?
12:45 < kanzure> disgusting http://paper.li/
12:47 < superkuh> Sorry, if ($http_user_agent ~* (PaperLiBot|facebookexternalhit|FairShare|Lightspeedsystems|Slurp|Googlebot|bingbot|Baiduspider|YandexBot|msnbot|FairShare|Gee.Bit|yacybot|SISTRIX|Mediapartners-Google|aboundex|WBSearchBot|360spider|copyrightinfringementportal) ) {
12:47 < superkuh> The previous was just for / not /library
12:47 < kanzure> hmm we should make a better science protection system
12:48 < kanzure> btw http_user_agent will never say something about copyrightinfringementportal
12:48 < kanzure> we could set a cookie that would identify someone who comes in with that http referer
12:48 < superkuh> Oh, right.
12:48 < kanzure> and then when they try to view the page without an http referer it will still be blocked
12:48 < kanzure> actually it would probably be better to block by ip address if they have that referer
12:49 < superkuh> I'm adding all of ScanSafe LON IP ranges to my permanent ip ban.
12:49 < kanzure> we can call it the science defense force (sdf, a joke about fenn's superdimensional fortress domain name)
12:57 < superkuh> Something akin to the p2p blocklists.
13:01 < superkuh> Alternately, and partially in jest, you could set up an easily seen Terms of Service that states you must be under 7 years of age to access the papers index. Then the copyright enforcers would be committing a felony under CFAA 1030(a)2(c).
13:04 < kanzure> a p2p blocklist for science seems harder to figure out
13:04 < kanzure> there's not many people collecting this data
13:06 < superkuh> Perhaps just a page on the wiki then.
13:06 < superkuh> I'll contribute as I see them pop up if nothing else.
13:06 < kanzure> excellent. thank you.
13:18 < superkuh> I am going to try editing the wiki. I haven't done this before so if something breaks, sorry.
13:19 < kanzure> that's fine. the web interface can be weird at times.
13:20 < superkuh> There's an interface besides git?
13:21 < kanzure> yes but now i regret telling you, git is probably easiest
13:21 < kanzure> here is the web interface for editing the main page https://secure.diyhpl.us/write/diyhpluswiki/ikiwiki.cgi?page=index&do=edit
13:23 < superkuh> Alright. So, I cloned it, added in ./users/superkuh/sdf.mdwn . Now I am trying to "git push superkuh@diyhpl.us:/srv/git/diyhpluswiki.git master" and it reports "Everything up-to-date" but no changes/upload is done.
13:23 < kanzure> when you added that file did you use "git add"?
13:23 < superkuh> Unfortunately I am quite ignorant of git. I did not.
13:24 < kanzure> there are two steps that you missed. first is to use "git add ./users/superkuh/sdf.mdwn".
13:24 < kanzure> the second step is to run "git commit" and type a creative poem about what changes you have made. you can see other creative works of poetry by looking at "git log" to see previous changes.
13:25 < kanzure> also if you are unsure as to whether or not "git add" has been executed, or if you have new files that haven't yet been added (staged for committing), you can use "git status".
13:26 < kanzure> after those two commands, git push will be more interesting.
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13:28 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8728b6e5 superkuh: Adding a list of probable intellectual property enforcement/surveillance IP ranges.
13:28 < superkuh> Thanks.
13:29 <@fenn> maybe we should turn over this list of IP's to "the authorities"
13:29 < kanzure> huh, the 80.254 addresses are all copyrightinfringementportal.com ?
13:29 < superkuh> No.
13:29 <@fenn> i.e. people who have nothing better to do but DDOS whoever they don't like
13:29 < superkuh> I felt it better to ban all of that cisco security services range.
13:29 < kanzure> ok makes sense.
13:30 < superkuh> Those are all of  ScanSafe LON(don).
13:30 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/users/superkuh/sdf/
13:32 < superkuh> Ack. I have a bunch here I know were IP bots but I don't have notes on them.
13:32 < superkuh> Just IP ranges without context.
13:36 < kanzure> is there an existing ip banning list that we should be contributing to?
13:38 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ed791928 superkuh: A couple more IP or political enforcement network ranges, typo fix too.
13:52 < kanzure> peerblock looks dead. wtf?
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14:02 < superkuh> The paper.li entries were from amazon ec2 so I am not sure if they are static.
14:06 < kanzure> this looks like a possibly up-to-date blocklist http://www.iblocklist.com/list.php?list=srzondksmjuwsvmgdbhi
14:07 < kanzure> this list looks really sketchy, just how it's hosted and how people are suggesitng additions by posting in comments.. i was hoping things would be more civilized. like maybe a website that generates the list from entries.
14:08 < kanzure> *suggesting
14:12 < ParahSailin> hm, ASIC btc mining is about 100000% pure arbitrage on electricity right now
14:12 < ParahSailin> FPGA mining is only 6500% return
14:14 < superkuh> It's still profitable even with an old 5770 gpu.
14:15 < ParahSailin> fundamental analysis gives a pretty good idea how out of balance current prices are
14:16 < kanzure> flanagan was buying up a lot of asics to do a bitcoin farm back in middle of 2012
14:16 < kanzure> i wonder whether or not he got that deployed
14:17 < superkuh> I have 20 BTC forever lost on an encrypted USB stick I forgot the password to. :(
14:22 < EnLilaSko> The password is "Mum, I promise I'm not into guys"
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14:28 < ThomasEgi> 20 bitcoins.. worth alot these days
14:28 < superkuh> Yeah. I've spent a lot of time trying to brute force it.
14:29 < ThomasEgi> roughly... 250 euro or so..
14:29 < ThomasEgi> wait.. more
14:29 < ThomasEgi> what's the current exchange rate?
14:29 < superkuh> $130 USD / 1 BTC on Mt. Gox.
14:30 < ThomasEgi> wow.
14:30 < ThomasEgi> that's a whole lot of money then
14:30 < ThomasEgi> more than 2k bucks.
14:30 < kanzure> superkuh: i think it might be possible to use a scheme similar to ad retargeting with cookies on third party services to track whether or not certain users or ip addresses are banned as anti-science extremists.
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14:32 < kanzure> the first time a user/ip views a page on your site, you would redirect to a page that loads an iframe which loads a handful of javascript files which set cookies and confirm whether or not the user is banned. then the user is redirected to the original page they requested, which is when the server decides whether or not to give access based on whether or not the server can independently communicate with the third party services to receive ...
14:32 < kanzure> ... confirmation that the user is not an anti-science wacko.
14:32 < kanzure> the iframe/js files would be on multiple remote servers that are controlled by multiple individuals
14:33 < superkuh> Meh. I don't want to force users to run javascript.
14:34 < ParahSailin> this is 2013
14:34 < superkuh> Forever 2003 in my head.
14:34 < kanzure> well, without javascript it's sort of hard to make a cookie available on multiple servers.
14:34 < ParahSailin> javascript isnt that scary malware that makes blinking lights and popups anymore
14:36 < kanzure> also, you could check each ip address against a remote server, or use nightly blocklist updates.
14:46 < kanzure> superkuh: also could you add the user agents that you hate?
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15:25 < kanzure> "The Journal of the Electrochemical Society, which published 6586 pages of research articles in 2012 for a Tier 3  academic subscription price of $1,207 … which is about $0.18/page …"
15:25 < kanzure> "Elsevier’s Journal of Electroanalytical Chemistry, which published 2174 pages of research articles in 2012 for a subscription price of $13,647 … which is about $6.28/page …"
15:25 < kanzure> "JEC has a slightly higher ISI Impact Factor (2.91 vs 2.59) which is likely due to far fewer papers … although the JES has a slightly higher 5 year IF (2.79 vs 2.73)"
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15:42 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=7affb7ec superkuh: Adding a few useragent strings that are disagreeable (as nginx config excerpt)
15:42 < superkuh> Oh. I messed up the formatting.
15:44 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ba7859bf superkuh: Formatting misc.
16:14 < kanzure> oh, that's just markdown being dumb
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19:07 < Grognor> maybe if we pray
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19:08 < nbentha> pray for wings so we can fly?
19:08 < kanzure> go away
19:09 < nbentha> lol. how's it going kanzure?
19:09 < kanzure> keep your prayers to yourself.
19:12 < nbentha> ...okay...
19:12 < nbentha> oh kanzure, i'm getting a paper ready for publishing :)
19:12 < nbentha> just some plant cell biology research
19:12 < nbentha> nothing big, but it's my first
19:14 < kanzure> who are you
19:14 < yashgaroth> oh hey sup nbentha
19:15 < nbentha> heya yashgaroth :)
19:15 < nbentha> kanzure, i used to be on here a lot more a year-2years ago
19:15 < kanzure> the logs have no record of you.
19:16 < yashgaroth> psh I remember him
19:17 < ParahSail1n> kanzure, i know nbentha irl
19:17 < kanzure> oh kibakichi37@gmail.com
19:17 < yashgaroth> try searching n_bentha
19:17 < kanzure> there we go
19:17 < kanzure> identity confirmed, not a crazy stalker trying to kill me.
19:17 < nbentha> lol
19:17 < kanzure> please don't laugh :(
19:20 < ParahSail1n> you need me to mail you a piece for protection?
19:20 < nbentha> sorry kanzure
19:20 < kanzure> a piece of what
19:21 < yashgaroth> you know, a gat
19:22 < nbentha> why not just print one?
19:22 < ParahSail1n> the ink costs like 50 dollars an ounce
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19:26 < nbentha> wow, i thought it would be cheaper
19:26 < ParahSail1n> fucking goats must be hungry
19:26 < ParahSail1n> i lifted the tails and they dont look fertile
19:27 < ParahSail1n> little one is screaming bloody murder
19:28 < nbentha> what're u gonna give them?
19:28 < ParahSail1n> theres a wisteria vine out back, i was kinda saving its for later, but i might need to prune it now
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19:35 < ParahSail1n> last weekend i was building them a ladder so they could reach high foliage, but didnt have time to finish
19:36 < nbentha> do you keep some livestock feed so you can feed them when they don'thave much to eat
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19:40 < ParahSail1n> i always have enough human leftovers for them
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19:42 < nbentha> u mean leftovers from your dinner, not actual human leftovers?
19:43 < ParahSail1n> yeah
19:44 < ParahSail1n> if they got really hungry i have grain
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20:11 < kanzure> http://www.kvue.com/news/Google-Fiber-coming-to-Austin-201695291.html
20:11 < kanzure> welp it seems i might not be moving to san francisco after all
20:12 < ParahSail1n> my brother lives in kansas city, google fiber never really came
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20:23 < n_bentha> heard that google fiber is only in certain areas in kansas city
20:24 < n_bentha> hope they deliver service to UT campus first if they do go to austin
20:25 < kanzure> ut austin has grande
20:26 < n_bentha> what's that?
20:26 < kanzure> some other isp
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20:36 < brownies> don't most universities have their own fiber?
20:37 < kanzure> dorms are always congested no matter what
20:40 < ParahSail1n> kanzure, what did you say before about someone trying to scrape google books
20:40 < kanzure> i think i have said many things about scraping google books
20:40 < kanzure> fenn wrote some python at one point
20:40 < kanzure> i complained about hands showing up in pages
20:41 < brownies> we had fiber
20:41 < brownies> i think our university was right on the internet backbone. made for some good torrenting.
20:41 < brownies> ...for all those shady characters who did that sort of thing, which is definitely not me.
20:42 < kanzure> i think the dorms might be on a different network at ut austin. my dorm was technically "off campus" (across a street).
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21:00 < n_bentha> gtg, a woman is coming over
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22:28 < kanzure> AshleyWaffle: hi.
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23:08 < kanzure> chido: do you know jiri dluhos? i think he's in prague doing a biotech-related lab things.
23:08 < kanzure> pasky: or you, i guess.
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